The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
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The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
20hr ago
Most spies don't "need" to be "turned" against their country; they just need to be found.
This is only two sorts, and there are conventionally four. Those who do it for the money, those who do it for the ideology, those who are coerced into it, and those who do it for ego. You can find those who do it for ideology or ego; those who do it for money or (especially) because they are coerced have to be made.
The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
1d ago
The real reason is that blaming the Jews is always popular, but Mossad in this case makes it easy by being an intelligence agency with plausible motive, means, opportunity, and most of all enough competence that it wouldn't leak.
The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
1d ago
I feel like this discussion is the missing ingredient to lots of the topics du jour. Let's take the leftward drift of young women- well social conservatism today seems to have, uh, not discussed what other people owe to them, only what they owe to other people.
Eh, I see this discussion a lot. One common line is that what other people (specifically, men, specifically, husbands) owed them -- mostly financial support and physical protection -- is something that they can now either provide for themselves or will be provided by the state, so they no longer need to offer anything.
But in general social conservatism is hierarchical, not reciprocal. Duties are owed to those higher up; parents, church, community. Even those things owed to another person of similar rank or lower down are not owed to them per se, but owed to them because it is ones duty to society to provide it. This is one of the reasons social conservatism is so stifling, especially to the young (who are low in the hierarchy).
The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
1d ago
So they claim. But the king is unlikely to be willing to trade places with the peasant, so it seems this is an uneven bargain.
The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
1d ago
Power is a curse, all those who actually tasted it will tell you. It eats at all of your life until nothing is left, and for what? In the end you only can make the decisions that allow you to maintain your station.
Does this describe Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, or Donald Trump? I don't think so. Vladimir Putin... LOL.
But what has humanity ever hoped for if not for someone else to deal with anarchy? Entire societies built just so we don't have to do this dirty work ourselves. Whole religions spent on dreaming someone is doing it for us when we are too weak.
A very Hobbesian view, but there are clearly many men (and a smaller but not insignificant number of women) who love power much.
The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
17hr ago
Whatever happened with Obama's birth certificate?
On September 16, 2016, Trump announced that Obama was born in the United States.
The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
3d ago
I think it's pretty easy to figure your way out of a right-wing false-flag attempt aimed to implicate antifa or the left generally: Two trans people included. This wouldn't rule out third-party shit-stirring (Chinese or Russian?) false flags, but I think your reasoning does this. Also just using AR-15s isn't really enough to implicate the right except in the minds of the New York Times.
There's one false flag that I think you haven't ruled out, though, and that's the possibility that this was yet another FBI sting gone wrong. The FBI would have recruited Song under false pretenses, provided him with the guns and some plans, and planned to arrest the bunch at some point, but the group jumped the gun and actually did it. That's probably not what happened here, but it does fit their M.O.
The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
1d ago
The cases that actually do still arise from legal drugs are "addict (i.e. end-user) runs out of money and becomes a career criminal to get his fix" and "stimulant-induced mania/psychosis". These are cases which are unambiguously "this is not due to prohibition; this is just due to drugs being available at all".
Both of these are made worse by prohibition -- the former by making the drugs more expensive, the latter because prohibition results in badly controlled doses leading to faster escalation towards mania-inducing doses.
There's also "drug user loses interest in anything but drugs, becomes criminal/welfare case" which I associate with pot. It's somewhat confounded by the fact that a lot of the people who ended up there would have been losers anyway, but I suspect that's not the only effect.
The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
1d ago
Imagine trying to convince my 1800s great great grandmother that my great grandmother, who just kicked her from the inside, was not a baby.
The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
1d ago
Child support payments are part of modernity, not social conservatism. Anyway, if people are discussing them they are discussing obligations owed to (in practice) women; the usual complaint here seems to be the obligation is one sided. (Which it is; the child support payments are owed even if the money is not used for the child or if visitation and/or joint custody rights are denied)
The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
1d ago
A cabinet secretary does in fact speak for the administration within their area of responsibility. They do not speak for the "woke right" (which itself is just a snarl term). That's like saying something Eric Adams says should be attributed to the progressive left (or to the Democratic Socialists of America, for a concrete group).
The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
1d ago
If Trump announced some kind of amnesty for farm workers, that would be MAGA.
No, in fact, MAGA got upset when it seemed he might and Trump backed off. Also note that MAGA was COVID-vaccine-skeptical and Trump was the opposite. That MAGA won't immediately dump Trump if he deviates from what they want doesn't mean MAGA is what Trump says it is.
But the "dissident right" just isn't MAGA in the first place.
The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
14hr ago
Elsewhere, someone else talked about a marriage needing to be in service of something greater than the marriage. To many social conservatives, it seems like the answer to this is a deity. To me, it seems like you should just be able to make the marriage in service of the children.
Children are not "greater than the marriage", so they do not provide an answer to that, if one is needed.
If you want progeny, though, you have to have the conditions for it. Social conservative communities provided those conditions, but I don't think they can do so any more. Modernity, however, seems to be failing more and more. I have no answers, but I'm fairly sure "more of the same" won't work.
The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
1d ago
I might not want to hang out with a Yakuza but I respect their commitment to their lifestyle more than I do 'oh I've got Milhouse smoking weed'
This is pretty much "I mean, say what you want about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos." Their "lifestyle" is organized crime, up to and including murder.
The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
2d ago
chinese lettering down the spine of a non-chinese-speaker
Which probably says "Translation server failed".
The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
1d ago
I'm OK with "racialist right" or the euphemistic "dissident right", but "woke right" is just a snarl, an attempt to force an equivalence with the woke left. Further, these people mostly aren't the MAGA right, and the Trump Administration cannot be said to speak for them.
The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
5d ago
This is the result of the much-discussed "march through the institutions". By the time social justice began to come out in the open, the institutions -- even religious ones -- had largely already been taken over by progressives.
The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
1d ago
Not only would Liz Cheney not agree, Elon Musk wouldn't either, so I don't believe this.
The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
3d ago
Insurance just means that everyone pays a share for all of the robbery (plus a cut to the insurance company), and also that they're required to run their businesses in the way the insurance company (which is itself regulated by the state) demands. It's strictly inferior to stopping the crime.
The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
3d ago
The problem is some of the #killallmen posters are serious. And they tend to get power in the movement, and their less-serious counterparts never seem to take them aside, horrified, and explain (to them) how no, this is hyperbole.
Similarly I suspect most of our Naziposters, given a knife and a bunch of tied-up Jews, would chicken out. But there's probably one or two that would happily cut some throats... and the others, while relieved that they didn't have to do it, would neither stop them nor re-examine their own views.
The biggest difference is that people outside the movement are less likely to excuse the Naziposters than the #killallmen group; being a performative Nazi is still a BAD thing to most, while too many people will say the #killallmen group 'have a point'. So the Naziposters are less dangerous through no fault of their own.
The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
1d ago
It's not, the product is still not available. Which makes me suspect "entirely fake".
The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
1d ago
Why do you think MAGA was united against bombing Iran or about Epstein? Aside from the very-online right portion? (Anyway, if there's nothing there with Epstein, Trump can hardly produce it) But if this was true, it would demonstrate the opposite of your point -- that MAGA is NOT what Trump says it is.
Stephen Miller obviously advised Trump against any sort of farmworker amnesty, but Trump had to know he would. The question is why Trump would listen to Miller in this instance. And that could well be because MAGA really was fairly well united against that.
The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
4d ago
Strength
Terry Hogan
Health
Hard to demonstrate exceptional health, but I haven't seen a conspicuous lack of health in the Trump administration.
Beauty.
Natalie Winters (and in fact the beauty of a number of MAGA women, at least by DC standards, has been noted elsewhere)
Intelligence.
J.D. Vance, but also Terry Hogan and Tulsi Gabbard and RFK and most of the rest. There are few dummies.
Fertility.
Elon of course. Trump. RFK Jr. MTG.
Truth
Ah, alas, this is politics.
Reason
Vance
Vitality
Trump, Hogan, MTG, Winters, others.
The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
2d ago
But they definitely indicate a person who is bad news.
Why would there even be a "client list"? Epstein wasn't a straight-up pimp brokering fee-per-throw or fee-per-hour transactions; he would have parties where the guests could make use of underaged prostitutes he provided. If there's a list of exactly which guests used exactly which underaged prostitutes (or video of the same), the FBI probably doesn't have it.
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