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Pareo distribution: whereby 20% of the fabric shows 80% of the body

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ThisIsSin

Pareo distribution: whereby 20% of the fabric shows 80% of the body

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and those assumptions are observably wrong because the observable range of human values is significantly wider.

Absolutely. Classical liberalism doesn't account for evil, which is understandable since it's the little-autistic-kid-asking-why-not of political ideologies[0] (and why people who aren't autistic little kids, at least at heart, tend to run into trouble with it). The whole 'life/liberty/pursuit of happiness' thing is a pretty clear example of this; for evil women, pursuit of happiness involves oppressing men, vice versa, and etc. for any combination of ingroup and outgroup you like.

In other words, it's an ideology for/by Abel, and as such doesn't put much effort into protecting itself from Cain (or at least denies his ability to do wrong... and really, if Cain should murder him, what Abel has done is generally pleasing to God; what horrible afterlife consequences should he fear? Would it not be a sin for Abel to devote resources to self-defense against his brethren rather than his normal business?).

Perhaps this cycle can be retarded or bypassed in some ways or in some circumstances

This cycle is usually retarded/bypassed by having so many resources that the limiting factor on their exploitation is manpower.
Or "$", for short.

You'll note that the pattern of classical liberalism within Western Great Powers tends to come with a new frontier and new technology to exploit it. This means that the population of those countries can get out of PvP mode (zero-sum) and go into PvE (positive-sum) mode, and once that happens, the people spec'd into PvP- the existing power structures- get pushed out because it's harder to rent-seek under these conditions. The US, for most of its history, has spent most of its time in PvE mode, and it shows- all of its cultural memes (including classical liberalism itself) are predicated on the PvE worldviews.

In a PvE environment, you actually can say "just build your own" and it not be in bad faith (and when PvPers say it today, they can't say it decoupled from the concept of PvE being the ideal- more proper snobs, stereotypically the Brits, have a different response to this; Americans will interpret this response as "no, because you're a nigger", because that's what it means). Values-incoherence is not something that can really be stopped if the ruling elements of a population wanted to[1], because if they did they'd be outcompeted by their enemies (internal or external) that did allow it.

Economic contractions, however, push the population towards PvP. Institutions become more powerful, rent-seeking becomes more important as a way to maintain personal wealth [which is where purity spirals come from, and in extremes, will cause the population to sell itself into more and more intense forms of slavery just to get a meal]. Values are mediated by those that still have resources, or can amass them, and those people would really hate if some other system that proved their values were wrong emerged (or allowed anyone the means or motivation to get around their resource monopolies)- hence why they wage holy war on them.

[0] As opposed to paternalist politics; these can be either mother-privileging (progressive) or father-privileging (progressive boogeyman/traditional). This is also what I'm generally trying to get at when I say "trads and progs are the same just with a different gender valence" and point out that liberalism and progressivism are very different things. One might even notice that paternalist politics are obsessed with fighting deontological evils (as a means to assert values-coherence); liberals only really have the consequential one (and as such can't assert values-coherence; "correct" is not a political identity).

[1] The one major exception to this is China, who declined to send colony ships anywhere specifically for this reason. What developed in the New World would fundamentally not be China any more, and unlike Europe they could afford to do this- they had everything they wanted at home. Which would remain true right up until they got curb-stomped by the English, and that was evidently only temporary.

This is also the crux of why I find gender ideology so dementedly self-centered

Well yeah, every -supremacy movement is kind of by definition self-centered (it's in the name), and gynosupremacy is not any different.

You don't get to shame and berate people for their sexual preferences because you made yourself less attractive to 99% of human beings, who's sexual preferences are tuned towards finding a fertile mate that they can produce offspring with.

In the 99.9% case, it's a woman being angry at men for this. Transgender ideology is simply a projection of that (i.e. to solidify their right to do it) and the equalization of "women can be men too".

that's a self-own

Why would it be? You don't even have to pair off, the State will take care of you in your old age.

Half your age plus 7.

Probably because it was a stupid argument to begin with, and the second worst strip on the site.

In any of these kerfuffles no one mentions the players who are into the gooner bait but are actually underage themselves

With a general assertion that "sexuality isn't for subhumans" (which is what we actually mean by "underage"), are you really that surprised nobody looks at what said subhumans are actually doing?

Nobody cares about children and teenagers beyond the fact the right to abuse them can be (and is) handed out as a political kickback.

What other ideologies have practices which are so wildly at odds with their stated principles?

The groups progressives treat as boogeymen?

Which is why the first act of the next Democrat president will be issuing them pardons.

However, liberalism only persists so long as "the people who can suffer from low-impact psychological damage should not be helped and to a point deserve it" does. Once that's gone, liberalism "degrades into" progressivism, where the damage goes from descriptive (something that happens to people) to prescriptive (something that should specifically be visited on the outgroup).

that's a 7 year old's face on a young woman's body.

The more I read this the more I'm convinced nobody saying this has seen an actual kid in many, many years. (Or they have, but were trying so hard not to crimethink that they didn't actually perceive them.) If I didn't know any better I'd say it's something puberty does to you, but I actually think it's in-built preference. Or maybe you're old enough that even young adults have started to look like kids (something else I've heard people say- never sure if they're serious).

Actually, there's a better and more recent example of this about Diana [from Pragmata], whose character design is actually trying to be a kid (with the associated and predictable discourse about how transparently obvious it was that whoever was complaining definitely wanted to fuck her, lmao this was Harmful and Bad). She isn't really "sexualized" in the game outside of maybe that one DLC outfit (critics remain correct that the coat's cheating her age in the downwards direction; she can be as curvy or not curvy as you imagine under there, the mechanic outfit just makes it obvious); this protagonist is pretty obviously fully grown, which you can see clearly at 2:47-2:48 in the trailer.

The most kid-like her face gets is the final frame at 2:50 (you'll have to go frame by frame for it), and note that she's slightly looking up in that frame (reducing the apparent length of her face) and taking a "pose" that minimizes the shape of her face more generally. If that shape was the default, the argument would maybe be more valid, but everywhere else you see her face it's adult-length (and comes to a finer point typical for adults), so...

But, I dunno. Maybe I'm completely miscalibrated in terms of what a kid actually looks like- I'm expecting a round/truncated face on top of a body with relatively straight lines up and down. But then again, I've also noticed people are just really bad at guessing ages, even those that should by all rights know better, so...

you generally have the argument that the people who die in it either outright volunteered to be there or at least are perpetrators to the same degree they are victims.

Which also applies to most of the high-profile "revenge porn" cases, and every case involving teenagers sexting (which a naive approach of "punish production" would still catch, though "the privilege to arbitrarily have your daughter's boyfriend jailed" is something traditionalists do like...)

All 5 of them?

A - The same extent as any adult male. /r/combatfootage and [whatever LiveLeak's successor is] is a couple clicks away- a shame most of the claimants aren't alive to make the claim, but what can you do. (Note that the same seems to not hold true for women; they're trying to have pornography of themselves treated the same way we do for children now, and in some jurisdictions are succeeding.)

B - Has the supply of step-sisters stuck in holes in the wall increased to fill the demand PornHub seems to assert exists?

is because its production is inherently harmful

Tell that to the Snapchat users; I'm pretty sure they've generated 90 if not 99% of all material that counts as this.

I'm sure they screamed did not consent to their finger pressing the send button.

The problem for small trucks is that the average Westerner already drives one.

It just has a carpeted, covered bed that shares room with the seats. Crossovers, as these are generally called, are literally just better small trucks/utes, where the only reason you wouldn't prefer that is if you were intending to transport something you didn't want in the cabin, or if you were occasionally wanting to haul something longer than could fit in said cabin.

The Maverick also sells partially because it's the best of the two options you have to choose from. Same with the Bronco and the Mustang, for that matter.

Clearly the SKS is only about as dangerous to the general public as the average cop.

UK women were likely in a bit of a quokka situation

You can believe that. I don't.

The moral hazard [at least, from the viewpoint of the relevant actors, that being the middle-class English woman] arises from those girls being sexual competition, and it's good for the sociopolitical power of the median English woman if their ability to perform that function is compromised. The fact that it allows them to be turbo-Xist is just icing on the cake.

I mean, QC can certainly give Americans a lesson on how best to throw your weight around and fuck up the rest of the country using that as an excuse. It's why it's politically important for the guy to be from AB, too.

Of course, those consequences also directly led to Tumblr Ridge, so...

I would contend that that falls under the "trade secrets or photos of victims or whatnot"

Which means you lose when "racist caricature" [equal to/implies] "photo of victim", like it's being treated here.

You have to deny that some races are smarter. Just always pick the pro-migration position.

Or more generally:

You have to deny reality. Just always pick the conservative position.

Now consider the Overton window, where (starting at the liberal end and moving to the most conservative [traditionalist-progressive]) in a universal suffrage democracy you have:

[The people who are more productive deserve to keep more of their better outcomes] (population x proportion on the high side of the bell curve) -> [some genders are more productive than others] (population x 0.5) -> [some races are more productive than others] (population x 0.1) -> [some sexualities are more productive than others] (from population x 0.01-0.001)

And since 'some sexualities are more productive than others' has had serious issues lately it makes sense that progressives are going to focus on the more defensible position.

(It's also why the LGB-T speedran the civil rights playbook; it worked for the two previous causes, why wouldn't it work for the third?)

The trads/progs, as different flavors of conservative, simply take as axiomatic what that answer is going to be (men/women, white/other, straight/other) because they are not comfortable with what being on the low side of that equation actually means, or less charitably are actively mining the market shortfall that [society as organization being axiomatically wrong about something] provides them and would have to do something harder if that resource collapsed, and that looks different as you travel up the window.

That's just the motte of the previously-discussed bailey, though.

Point is, the Ottomans Party had a pipeline of carefully selected, above average slaves Outer Party members directly owned by the Sultan Big Brother and educated credentialled at great expense for personal loyalty and professional competence. That's the sort of selection process you need to staff an empire, but it isn't stable long term.

Note that Orwell's most famous book was about how this could be made stable.

It just needs to be a high enough rate of churn in this administrative class to keep it from becoming its own political entity.

Democracy complicates this because it gives this administrative class far more political power than it should have, especially when it's universal (also, "all bureaucrats are female regardless of their actual genitals" has a lot of very interesting implications, the least interesting of which trivially explains the politics of that class). The US made an attempt to strip bureaucrats of political power- that's why DC isn't a state- but it didn't go anywhere near far enough. Stripping all government workers of the right to vote in relevant elections would likely improve any Western democracy significantly.

Marriage rates declined because with the sexual revolution

Marriage rates have been declining because the floor for a successful marriage has risen to the point that it excludes a lot of people and no-fault divorce in an environment of higher financial stakes has done the rest. We got a break from that in the '60s because wages for young men rose dramatically, and gradually petered out over the next 20 years, which is why you don't have any historical data to look back on (the SR tends to confound traditionalists; they only have the one lens to look through).

Before, this was mostly solved by men having all the money and women having none of it with a soft ban on obtaining any of it outside that context (and where soft bans didn't exist the constraint was mostly just called "the reality of non-mechanized work"). This worked OK, but it's a compact that didn't survive automation, specifically the line shaft.

You can't marry unless you can support a wife and multiple children

Indeed, which is why young men can't marry now (and you lose a lot of the stability from dual-income being functionally mandatory). And yes, we could simply make it legal for young men to accumulate an attractive surplus, but by the time the effects of that have propagated the young men will be middle-aged.

At least for competitive swimming you just get DQ'd on that one particular event.

(You don't get booted from the meet entirely, or at least, you shouldn't be- this isn't like competitive shooting where that does happen, but that also only happens for safety infractions.)

no but you see this is good because young men expecting to have sex with young women (to say nothing of the opposite) even in the confines of a marriage is bad

imagine having sex with women that are actually young, couldn't be me, i hagmax like Ben Franklin

if we could we'd push age of marriage up to 40, 50, 60 because they'd be more mature then and more cognizant of the risks, that would be good

especially because most of us are already unhappily married and we want to help our kids avoid that, but we have no idea how to do that so we just tell them to delay it and they trust us, dumb fucks

imagine marriage was an important part of living life, and imagine that you'd ever want to maximize the amount of fulfilling life time you (or others) will get

I've seen video evidence- this is absolutely an epidemic, especially among step-siblings.

Though realistically, and as always, this is only really a problem if the two have a bad relationship or one (or the other) has poor impulse control, and that's going to create other issues beyond the fucking. (If they have a better relationship with each other they might try it, if they have a better relationship with the parent they'll tend to accept being talked out of it, both problems fully solvable by public health education efforts. Naturally opposed by people with [an assumption of]/[excuse that it'll exacerbate] poor impulse control.)

Some people (trads/progs) believe is a risk magically created by porn, but it's mostly just exacerbated by it if you already have it. Kind of like alcoholism, actually. But when your power (or rather, your justification for excessive risk aversion- kids grow out of this when they become adults, popularly referred to as the "teenage years") comes from not understanding that, well...