ThisIsSin
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But it was rejected for "punching down" at single mothers.
No, it was rejected because the notion that "if you become a single mother, it might not totally be the man's fault" is offensive to gynosupremacist thought, and single mothers were just the political excuse to invoke that.
Nobody actually cares about the welfare of single mothers, or of children more generally, beyond their usefulness as an excuse to do this. Helping these groups is generally the domain of the religious.
I don't know what we can impose on nonbelievers (short of a death sentence) that will keep them in line, even against their baser instincts.
It seems to me that there are two nodes for human sexuality.
Going full chimpanzee "Death do us part except for cheating [oppresses and protects men and women equally], all sex is rape, woman must marry rapist, woman must be virgin if still living at home [protects father's property rights]" is stable. (Yes, the enforcement for deviation from this procedure was death, but enforcement for everything in the ancient world was death. Personnel were cheap back then.)
(The all sex is rape + woman must marry rapist requires a bunch of unpacking: technically speaking, it doesn't prohibit casual sex, but gives the woman the means to invoke a shotgun wedding if she becomes pregnant. It also draws a stated distinction where a woman was assumed, and not assumed, to have cried rape by default- which protects the man.)
Going full bonobo "No STDs or pregnancy and everyone fucks like rabbits, marriage is for life (even including adultery) and carries sexual/financial obligations for both parties, single motherhood very institutionally difficult" is also stable.
You can't really construct a piecemeal version of this and expect it to work
Law must protect and bind men and women equally. Right now, it only binds men; 100 years ago, it only bound women. (To a point, modern problems are caused by women taking revenge for this bondage against their sons.)
True; Adolescence is basically the distaff equivalent of whatever that salacious Victorian-era book about young teenage prostitutes was (and all the wokeshit is, to lesser degrees).
It's a clear sign there's something real nasty going on, but the relevant actors are too weak to deal with that (to the point that they're too busy getting off on the oppression, in that same awkward/harmful way women do when they stay with a man that abuses them in the ways typical of men).
Male only small groups.
Illegal, thanks to women.
Remember, men are in societal surplus right now; and thus they are too weak as a class to check the inherent sociobiological/instinctual interest of women to destroy all other avenues that aren't "competing for woman's affection".
(Which, I will point out, is a common complaint from men about women who demand access to those spaces).
We don't want the same group of people berating them thusly
Indeed- now it's the women doing the
"Settle down! Have kids! Sacrifice your freedom for family and the state! If your partner fucks off for some old dick and takes those kids and most of your resources, don't get in your feels about it!"
dance, and it's just as bad as it was when the men were doing it.
In a healthy system, men and women check each other (according to their biological/instinctual strengths and weaknesses), but we broke that system in the 1900s with the first wave of mass automation (replacing mostly men, which removed their ability to check the way women conduct abuse due to being in surplus) and then entered an economic boom that temporarily restored that balance (and the people in power now grew up under these conditions). If the second wave of mass automation, which may or may not be bearing down on us right now, replaces mostly women, society will rebalance somewhat; if it does not, and it replaces mostly men, this will get worse.
Female sexual attractiveness inevitably and steeply declines relatively early in life.
It's not just that: female sexual usefulness ends at 50ish in a way it doesn't for men. After menopause, is there really any reason ever not to just be FWB, retirement home style? Men can invest and save for this so they can afford someone who can still build a family but no amount of financial prudence will save that for women.
And sure, you could compensate with basic things like "not being openly hostile", but feminists are [by definition] at a disadvantage there, so...
What remains to be seen is how the spinsters are going to take it out on everyone else, because they will have some political capital to getting revenge on the men they feel they are entitled to, and will likely act accordingly. But there will be no State-mandated husbands (besides perhaps Big Brother, imposed with "protecting women" as the main justification- a concept that's 20 years out of date, but history shows this demographic does not care about that); it'll take on the character of a society-wide divorce.
Society has become aware that these types of relationships have a much greater opportunity for abuse
No, this is 100% just the "I consent/isn't there someone you forgot to ask?" meme.
seem to be an exception to what could be called the "love is love" principle.
No, the general principle is "love is love so long as it benefits women-as-class", and has been that way since 1900 or so. This is why it's OK for young boys to be sex objects for gay men, but never young girls.
But 'pick a program to run' is not one of the problems which has an intrinsic 2d representation.
I respectfully disagree; 2D ancillary menus have several significant benefits over a bare terminal, but they still need a 1D terminal in that menu. And I get that there was a significant time period, specifically between 1986 through 2006, where this wasn't the case.
The superior way to start an application is to type the name of the binary
But when I have two programs that start with the same name, like say Visual Studio and Visual Studio Code, I'd have to type out the entire name to access the second application. (I'd also have to know the name of the binary, that doesn't necessarily match the name on the box, and sometimes it isn't even a binary, but a part of one [so now you have to memorize the launch argument, and tab-autocomplete generally won't help you with that].) With a proper menu representation (and I admit the Windows 10 and 11 are very much not this; StartAllBack is mandatory on Windows machines), the sequence is 'vis' (or similar) + [down arrow] + Enter, speed the terminal cannot hope to match (unless you decide to manually configure an alias for it- but a general purpose solution for this is a lot more convenient, because it works everywhere, which is the same argument vi users make about learning it).
Selecting text and objects is something else that has an intrinsic 2D representation for reasons that become obvious if you don't know how long the line is (which you kind of have to for terminal-based selection), or if you need to see the document you're copying from as well as the document you're pasting to.
Menus are tolerable if there are a few options to pick, like at the ATM
Menus are preferable here because, on an ATM, they're literally just keyboard buttons that map directly to the action. If you want to withdraw 200 dollars, you don't have to translate '1. View Balance. 2. Deposit. 3. Withdraw.' -> 'Enter amount to withdraw' into keyboard commands, you press the [equivalent of the] 'Withdraw' keyboard key, and then the '200 dollars' key. There's no potential of anyone misreading or mistranslating the input, since the menu changes based exactly on what's relevant at the time; it's drastically more intuitive.
Yes, keyboard searching might make that more tolerable, but can only hope to approach the comfort of the command line interface.
Computer interfaces have legitimately advanced since 1970 and that's OK. They took a huge leap forward back when the OS wars weren't yet won, then slowed down, then came back for a time when OS X became relevant again, then desktop UX took a backseat to mobile UX. (Which made a great leap forward in 2007, then another just as large one in 2009 with webOS, and then regressed to where we are today.)
In my opinion the world is overdue for a new desktop UX paradigm, since unlike the 2010s it's now crystal clear that desktop PCs (including laptops) will never go away, and it's time we go after the things we missed the last time, like how to display text in readable locations and not to truncate the important parts (which is also something the terminals still have problems with in applications that show data in tabs). Maybe once someone figures out how to get an LLM to spit out all the hooks and hacks you need to reliably replace explorer.exe (not that the Windows source code isn't in LLM training sets already, of course), we'll finally get someone applying the UX research the rest of the way.
But at the end of the day, most vehicles are not picked for their infotainment system
Yeah, they're clearly picked in spite of it.
Unless you're Tesla or (to a point) Rivian, but those are software companies that just happen to make cars. Every "X drives" video I watch on YouTube has the infotainment clearly lagging by a half second or more, and with the absurd power of even 15 year old computers this is just not a thing that should happen. Car UX was legitimately better when the engineers (or rather, the execs directing the engineers) were forced into the simplest embedded development; as soon as they got access to something more advanced than embedded C it all went to shit.
And at this point I think good car UX is dead and buried because consumers aren't even in any position to care. Hey, at least the auto lanekeep will stop you from leaving the lane after you get flashbanged by drivers who are too brain-dead to turn their fucking brights off (or you're too busy fucking with the infotainment's lack of switches to be able to stay in your lane).
Of course, in Western countries we simply have the reverse, where women treat any mixed space as a sexual harassment contest, and men are constantly on guard against any women around them in public (re: Pence Rule).
That sucks too, but I'm not the one that has to moderate to fix it.
though you may be referencing something generally known that I do not know.
I've literally never heard anyone talk about it; otherwise I'd've used their name for these emotional states. I don't have a name for them, I just [think I] understand what they are.
prevents intentional obfuscation for humor's sake
I think it's slightly deeper than that in the sense that, if you can't obfuscate for humor's sake, you can't obfuscate for malicious purposes either. So doing it is always in earnest, and thus [generally] perhaps perceived to be in earnest by the average member of that culture.
Think about why the modal English speaker groans at puns- there's a specific emotion that mediates this, and I think it's emergent from... something, but outside of the disgust one feels when one perverts the language, I don't actually know why people would feel this otherwise. Assuming it is disgust mediating the interaction, though, it makes sense that playing with words implies the intent is hostile to the individual or group, but if group cohesion is high enough that nobody really thinks about it in those terms then maybe they just don't feel the [protective] emotion.
I've always found OS X to be extremely barebones as far as functionality goes. I do like that, but I also like most DEs except for maybe GNOME 3, so maybe I'm not the best judge.
Windows does a lot more, especially because it allowed itself to advance beyond the state of the art in 1984 (or rather, 1980, since OS X is just a copy of OS 1 is just a rip-off of what Xerox was doing at PARC). The Start Menu, and searching within it, is far and away superior to the way macOS handles applications (and Linux splits the difference and fails at both; both KDE and Gnome suffer from this, though in different ways).
OS X still has some weird bullshit, too- specifically the way it fails to allow you to copy folders in anything resembling an intuitive way. "So you don't get confused"? Yeah, not buying it.
Oh yeah, and keyboard shortcuts belong on Ctrl, not Alt/Command. It's a stupid compromise and Apple is just straight-up wrong here- I get you can customize it but it's still bad. I mean, they literally had the NOMODES guy [Larry Tesler] working for them and they still couldn't figure out that the ergonomics of holding down Alt-C are strictly inferior to Ctrl-C? Come on.
By the way, the best mobile OS ever designed was webOS and I will not hear slander otherwise. Yes, iOS and Android ripped off some of the good parts, but they didn't get all of it...
I don't think justice systems in general are ready for this. Indeed, they're already vulnerable to this now, and they depend on other social institutions to carry out their will (just as they always have done- courts don't actually have legions).
That said, what prejudice (and the dismissal thereupon) is also happens to be defined by the court. As is who even takes appeals.
[At least it's an argument for having fewer laws- but then, that might not be advantageous since "just ban everything and never hear any appeals because fuck you lolol" is already what happens most of the time in 2A cases and doesn't even require dismissing cases like that.]
a win for American democracy
And specifically an advantage of it over Westminster systems, where the Executive is just the party with the most votes in the Legislature (even if a minority government) and actually have the power to impose retaliatory tariffs at the snap of their fingers.
Weird, I thought conservatives were generally against that kind of thing.
and a surprising--to me--amount of cross-dressing
it would honestly be more surprising to me if they didn't cross-dress; I'd actually kind of expect a race of people that seem to possess a below-average amount of sexual dimorphism -> they can pull it off more convincingly to be more into it on average
your example is kind of exhibit A there, but in fairness he's not wearing the female battle standard of 'literally all the makeup'
It's not intentional adolescent cleverness.
Yeah, there seems to be a lot of the 'that' emotion in play. I don't have a word for it; I don't have a word for the 'this' emotion that makes you appreciate intentional adolescent cleverness either, though its opposite/suppressant seems to come from prudishness/disgust reflex; maybe if [the thing that suffers disgust] is the group you get more of the 'that' emotion, since the 'this' emotion doesn't really work if [the thing targeted for disgust] is not you.
Considering how many puns Japanese media tends to contain, at least to my eyes, there's very little 'this'.
There's a willful blindness to irony and/or satire in Japan
Do members of more homogenous cultures inherently possess more willing suspension of disbelief?
I heard stories that the government used to hand out bricks of cheese and other foodstuffs in plain boxes labelled only with the name of the item
This is part of the brand identity of a certain major Canadian supermarket chain, fittingly called 'No Name', with bright yellow packaging.
Progressivism becomes “conservative” once sufficiently mainstream
Hence the reason some political parties actively named themselves "progressive-conservative", or PC for short. They were just ahead of the curve.
And yes, it always feels weird that, technically speaking/currently, conservatism and [classical] liberalism are the same thing, and when progressives call themselves "liberals" it stinks of stolen valor.
Plausible deniability of wanting attention.
lululemon
The company logo features a semi-abstract/plausibly deniable picture of the back side view of a woman bending over. They know what they're doing.
It's a marketing term, typically employed by sellers of ice cream and other desserts.
In all seriousness, the reason nobody bothers is that they believe it's self-defining. I suggest the actual meaning is something more along the lines of 'taking the material conditions for granted becomes the rational move' for X% of society, finding X being an exercise for the reader.
This lines up with the people most likely to [feel they] be in charge of providing those material conditions, which is why claims of 'decadence' tend to just be grievances from male instinct, lightly laundered. (Hence why "physical strength decoupled from material wealth" is decadence, why "women don't have to submit to men" is decadence, why "peepee in the but" [translation: men not having to compete with each other for sex with women] is decadence, etc.)
This also allows the US being able to afford to get its soldiers ice cream on the front lines in WW2 to not be decadence, but the expectation of such every day in peacetime might be. It depends on the cultural attitude towards how and why the ice cream got there.
Just because a thing is commonplace doesn't mean it is not itself miraculous (compare 'manna'), but the importance is the remembrance of those who maintain and sustain that miracle (and how well they are paid/treated/valued).
Perhaps one could argue that decadence is when the working of miracles in a society is so common that they, and hence those that provide them, become sufficiently devalued that they begin to be despised? Even the Israelites reacted that way.
but an approach believed to help best with standing aim.
Come to think of it: doctrine from instructors invented in the 1800s = 100ish years of single-action revolver (including cap-and-ball) dominance = you were only really able to have one hand on the gun.
And given the number of cartridge conversions of those guns, to the point where .36 (.38 Special) and .45 (.45 Colt) are literally hold-overs from the C&B era, just couldn't afford to buy anything else- it's maybe a little less surprising that doctrine around "one hand on the gun's all you need" persisted.
It's easy to think of progressives as moustache-twirling villains who wanted little beyond stigmatizing non-progressives and keeping them down, but perhaps there was an actual practical reason for this type of segregation?
The purpose of this place is specifically to exclude this line of reasoning, because the answer of "the outgroup is ontologically evil" is trivial and boring. That way lies shady thinking, bad arguments, and no room for synthesis.
The [unstated] paradox of this place is that, if our outgroup wasn't ontologically evil, it wouldn't need to exist.
Or in other words, "State surrogate mother" narrowly beating out "private mother".
Musk is African-American, so by the standards held by half the country he's the most American you can possibly get.
There are countless thinkpieces about how people don't know or trust their neighbors as much as they used to
Yeah, I wouldn't trust any random neighbor empowered with a catastrophically powerful State-backed heckler's veto over my family unit either!
the "free range parenting" trend seems to have peaked around 2009-2010
A few states have taken steps to decriminalize or legalize young people existing in a public place since then, and the people who want freedom for their kids have had time to self-sort into those areas. A good chunk of the "free range" is on the Internet, by the way- the Karens have gradually been coming for that too by banning them from the spaces they visit and restricting what they can freely do there.
Are American parents just becoming disturbingly vicious and attacking their kids more than in the past?
No, but
Are American adults just becoming disturbingly vicious and attacking kids more than in the past?
is true, trivially. Where else do you think the CPS reports are coming from? They don't just magically appear out of thin air, a concerned citizen hysterical, typically middle-aged, woman has to call them in.
Hysterical middle-aged women have more power now than they did in the '50s and '60s, so when they call and complain about unattended children the State listens unless it has been expressly prohibited from doing so, and this is more likely to be the case in states when this type of woman has less power, Utah being the best example.
1/3 of American children are threatened by State abduction by the time they are 18. That sounds like a ridiculous number.
Considering the rate women claim to be abused/assaulted by men, I actually don't think it's that out of left field for women to abuse/assault children at the same rate, and the premium on top of that is because (despite the feminist claims about the former) we actively encourage that abuse.
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You misunderstand: this is the notion of men aged 50+, who never got married, now never having any reason to. And the matching women, 50+, trying to punish them for never having married them.
I believe those femcels will demand state-mandated husbands. It might not take that form specifically, since men and women are different, but I suspect something along those lines will occur. Technically, it already is through progressive taxation.
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