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				Culture War Roundup for the week of February 23, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


No one is trying to arrest the women's olympic team for the crime of sporting while female.




Sure, but they will get arrested for excluding men who claim to be women, or at least punched really hard by an example of the same.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Small-Scale Question Sunday for February 22, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
90% consumer, 9% generator, 1% leadership seems to be the pattern for communities in general.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of February 23, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


That's a load-bearing "maybe" you have there




Maybe.






and a lot of outright discrimination against men




Then maybe just, like, don't do that?  We can talk about whether the structures allowing/encouraging female participation enable corruption inherently- and indeed, some of them clearly have (academia in particular); but if your answer is "they all do and this is an intractable problem so huge it should never be done", then the natural next question is "then why should men be exempt from this in the organizations that solely permit them/to what degree should they be exempt/what happens when they exceed that exemption"[0]?


That isn't to say that it isn't time to move on from the current system- indeed, it can no longer serve its primary function, and its time has come.






with nothing much to show for it.




Do you even know what the ultimate objective of these representation programs even were?  It wasn't "give privileges to the unworthy and reintroduce 19th-century sexism from the other direction", it's specifically "make sure the worthy do not give up".  The tenor of society at the time this issue started to be raised was that this was a somewhat-undue burden on worthy women, so that's how the chips fell.


The liberal experiment has... I hesitate to say "failed", but more that it has run its course and now needs reform, because it in large part stopped being about this and started about being a sociofinancial hand-out to the corrupt and worthless.  You can see this in the way progressives argue for men in women's sports- the entire point was to encourage worthy women, not to let [the Establishment] make it all about their political power instead.[1]


The problem with the "experiment" is both that it didn't count on corruption (and you can expect liberals to ignore that angle), and related to that, that it is ultimately incapable of yielding tangible/measurable results.  We know that we can't turn a woman into a man[2], but both understand dignity in more or less the same ways, and that's what we're buying for the extra cash.  In the end, it doesn't actually matter what the record is (re: Goodhart); but we can encourage the process.


Again, the objective wasn't really even to increase female representation: the problem was to ensure that women who should be participating are not discouraged by the lack of prior participation (or the logic believing in [0] demands).  And it did succeed in this, perhaps a bit too well.




[0] Of course, in traditionalism the answer to that question is an axiomatic "because men are better", but this comes with certain other problems that traditionalists have had the last 100 years to answer for.  It appears they may have dropped the ball somewhat.


[1] Though I will note that this was all about the liberal Establishment's political power when they set this up; encouraging worthy women was a demonstration and advancement of their political power.  This is why progressives call themselves liberals.


[2] And the fact that people are actually trying to do this is perhaps the biggest indicator that the devotion to the measure ate the expected outcome.  (That's not all it indicates, but it has something to do with it.)


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of February 23, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


Is it really necessary to pretend otherwise?




Yes, actually; if they get taken seriously maybe more [women] will show up to compete, which has downstream positive social effects in the long term.  More value for people who Do The Thing means the population at large is more interested in Doing The Thing and sends a message we value Those Who Show Up.  To the extent you want women to Show Up, this is important.


That said, if [women as class = feminists] take it for granted and start attacking men because of it- that they're not being honored above and beyond because they didn't realize- or that their mothers (including public surrogates like teachers) failed to impress upon them- that the entire reason they have this league is already the 'above and beyond'?

Then it's OK for men not want to continue that pretense, to not be interested in making the space for them, and more accepting of reminding them more frequently that the deal/concession didn't need to exist.


Which is a shame, because again, to even be a female athlete in these competitions means you have certain qualities that it would honestly be a waste not to hold up as an example, so as always it's the worthy who suffer here.