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Or in other words, "State surrogate mother" narrowly beating out "private mother".
Musk is African-American, so by the standards held by half the country he's the most American you can possibly get.
There are countless thinkpieces about how people don't know or trust their neighbors as much as they used to
Yeah, I wouldn't trust any random neighbor empowered with a catastrophically powerful State-backed heckler's veto over my family unit either!
the "free range parenting" trend seems to have peaked around 2009-2010
A few states have taken steps to decriminalize or legalize young people existing in a public place since then, and the people who want freedom for their kids have had time to self-sort into those areas. A good chunk of the "free range" is on the Internet, by the way- the Karens have gradually been coming for that too by banning them from the spaces they visit and restricting what they can freely do there.
Are American parents just becoming disturbingly vicious and attacking their kids more than in the past?
No, but
Are American adults just becoming disturbingly vicious and attacking kids more than in the past?
is true, trivially. Where else do you think the CPS reports are coming from? They don't just magically appear out of thin air, a concerned citizen hysterical, typically middle-aged, woman has to call them in.
Hysterical middle-aged women have more power now than they did in the '50s and '60s, so when they call and complain about unattended children the State listens unless it has been expressly prohibited from doing so, and this is more likely to be the case in states when this type of woman has less power, Utah being the best example.
1/3 of American children are threatened by State abduction by the time they are 18. That sounds like a ridiculous number.
Considering the rate women claim to be abused/assaulted by men, I actually don't think it's that out of left field for women to abuse/assault children at the same rate, and the premium on top of that is because (despite the feminist claims about the former) we actively encourage that abuse.
No, this one's a lot more systemic. If I recall correctly this guy was already convicted of a crime co-morbid with multiple mental disorders, but let off easy. (Can't imagine why that would be.) Failing to punish crime properly, which is a progressive goal, has actual consequences that look shockingly like dead 12 year olds.
and I am sure you have some story of some Trump supporter having a psychotic episode and shooting up a shopping mall getting spun as MAGA violence.
I mean, I have a story of some illegal gun owner who may or may not have been an RCMP informant shooting roughly 20 people and that getting spun as right-wing violence (and being banned and confiscated as a result), just like 2 million other people who have Canadian citizenship do.
Up until yesterday the dominant narrative in Canada was the notion that all mass shootings are straightwhitemen committing femicide against helpless women because Muh Patriarchy. That narrative is dead now, and ironically referring to the killer as a woman hurts it a lot more than admitting the killer was trans.
Sure, "the victims deserved it" is always an option.
Unfortunately for the TRAs, this wasn't a Christian school.
I'm sure the TRAs themselves are pushing this one on the backchannel.
"The mass shooter was female" is the best concession they're going to get. Because the truth- that this was violence the entire progressive political stack (by its own rules) is directly and solely responsible for- is an inconvenient one.
If anything the TRAs should be signal-boosting the couple of politicians who will inevitably shoot their mouth off too quickly in blaming trans people for this. They're completely dependent on progressive success for survival.
Anyone can change their identity and pronouns at will, but by choosing to do something heinous, they have switched their identity to male.
"Choosing to do something heinous" and "changing their identity and pronouns at will" tend to go hand in hand, so this isn't acceptable to TRAs. Their entire thing is that the community has no right to tell you who you are, no matter what.
but by choosing to do something heinous, they have switched their identity to male/"men bad, women good"
Older Boomer women currently wish this was the case so they could go on blaming men [and guns] for mass murder. Having a pet of theirs rack up the highest kill count to date west of the Canadian Shield is incongruous with the "gendercide" narrative.
I think the pronouns will stick in this case; the demand for violence from straightwhitemen might exceed supply, but the reaction to that is an increase in the demand for violence perpetrated by non-straightwhitemen (because the demand for violence comes from the highly passive-aggressive "see, we were right about them, now it's time to make them pay" that characterizes most Western nations, in particular English-settled ones).
none have let a shooting go to waste because it doesn't line up with the bill that's already in the chamber
Sure, but none of the perpetrators have been expressly, blatantly, inescapably representative of every Establishment failure.
This is part of why they want to call him a woman, but it forces the anti-gun side in particular to give up being able to use the superweapon of blaming men; conversely, allowing them to call him a man costs them credibility with the TRAs.
If the government can't protect against attacks like this, and the reason it can't protect against attacks like this is that it let an ugly/unpopular Progressive token minority off the hook while acting to punish everyone else (and in a way that directly led to their children being killed), at a time where the government can't even keep the fucking nation together?
Then yeah, I'd be trying to lay low too. The most rabid anti-gunners in Canada might be tempted to go full Twitter meltdown, but if they do their time as a political force in Canada will be over.
There aren't enough guns left to ban for that (they already blew their loads on this 4 and 2 and 1 year ago), and the lack of coverage about what the guns the shooter used (along with how fatal the attack was given the near-immediate response time) suggests they weren't special in any way- likely a bog-standard hunting rifle or shotgun.
It's going to get ignored for that reason. The gun-banning side will take an L, since most of the narrative is "u need to ban guns to protect wimminz", and this guy being [allowed to be] a woman damages that narrative- it's best for them it disappear.
The media has 2 choices- double down on "we need to ban guns to protect women from male mass shooters" and throw trans women under the bus, or double down on TWAW and throw "it's all men's fault" out.
I think they're still figuring out which one it's going to be, but TWAW's in the lead right now.
they listed off the genders of all of the victims (which I found a bit weird)
If you found that weird you're not being cynical enough.
The demand for straightwhiteman crimes against young women far exceeds supply.
The demand for woman or transwoman crimes against young women, not so much. Of those, calling them a woman is perhaps the less damaging option.
Perhaps they were giving a Straussian hint.
The Canadian media already fell into that trap- "woman in a dress" = obviously trans.
but clearly Canadian gun laws as they stand didn't stop this one
It's worse for the regime in this case because there's an active confiscation going on. The government has been campaigning for the better part of a decade on it. AUS murders did not happen under those conditions and the victims were perceived as having it coming- not quite the same thing.
Sometimes there are signs
If the most uncharitable rumors are true, institutionalization in some form have already occurred.
it's a shitty, inaccurate headline
It's made solely to justify reprisal attacks on the outgroup.
There is hardly anything about this in the American media today.
American media fails to publish story about news likely to be highly damaging to the preferred narrative of American media, news at 11.
Canadian media already fucked up and said too much about who the shooter was, so it's too late to deny it. The fact they haven't reported anything else suggests the other facts of the case are likely not in the regime's favor.
I don’t feel the raw anger and hatred from when the Catholic school in Minnesota was hit.
Canadians are a lot more passive-aggressive than that.
and i'm trying to think of an explanation
Obviously, he was using a weapon that only did 33 damage. Human beings have 100 HP; upon reaching 0 you become a ragdoll, but you'll be perfectly fine and suffer no ill effects even if you only have 1 HP. (This is why using .50 BMG, or other guns that can do 100 or more damage, are considered war crimes- people just hate the instakill meta.)
In all seriousness, it's not the getting shot that kills you, it's the other biological consequences of what happens when you get a hole punched in a part of you that may result in death, where the cells that make you up can't get enough fuel or oxygen to sustain the combustion reaction necessary for life (as in, you can't breathe, or you have no more blood) and die. When people appear to die instantly from this, it's mainly because the hole that was punched in them resulted in an immediate, catastrophic loss of blood flow (that system is also pressurized, so this tends to be really dramatic).
The meta for killing things is to create either larger holes, or more holes, so that this process happens faster. As a general rule, concealable weapons (handguns, especially the smaller ones) are relatively bad at making the large holes, so they have to depend on many holes in the most vital part of the target; typically in the blood pump [heart], the air intake/exhaust manifolds [lungs], or by destroying the ECU's ability to run either of the former two [brain]. You can make bigger more destructive holes with a rifle, but it's useless if you can't even get the gun into the fight.
The government may want to consider this type of exposure in any final year sex ed/home economics programs in high school.
Yes, but if they did that then the rate of teen pregnancy would increase. Since we axiomatically believe that's bad because reasons, this would be detrimental to that and the overall graduation rate, so the notion those metrics dropping is a Bad Thing would have to go away first.
But more because it marks you as someone who doesn't want to compete/isn't concerned about taking shortcuts; you're willingly accepting somewhat damaged goods rather than the more-desirable 15 year old peers you "should" be trying to date instead.
Sex you get for free is worthless as a status symbol, just marks you as a dumpster-diver (and marks [the sexual value of] the woman in the relationship as so undesirable she couldn't even give sex away, or merely perverted at best). This is the spear counterpart to the "she isn't yet wise enough to be able to/to know to extract maximum resources from men" argument (usually stated as "not mature enough", eliding the truth that the only maturity that matters in women is physical), by the way.
This matters much less if the teacher's sufficiently hot or young, of course, but of course it would; that's not meaningfully distinct from a successful seduction on the man's part, as the status of having secured that sex is actually significant.
invited between her legs and manipulated.
Is sex inherently harmful, or is it not? (This is rhetorical- everyone already knows their own private answer to this; that's why the compromise between 'yes' and 'no' yielded an age of consent, and to a point why that initial compromise progressed/regressed into the modern understanding of a gender of consent.)
I believe ICE has more reason to fear from Cartels, gangs, and other drug and human trafficking organizations.
The largest human trafficking organization in the world has already threatened to prosecute each and every ICE agent for the crime of enforcing the law against human trafficking.
I wonder how much of this is just parents not being good at what they do.
A good chunk of it is; it's not like there's any objective way to measure performance beyond stuff, everyone has an opinion (and the more competent parents are, paradoxically, more likely to take advice they shouldn't be; the less competent ones won't), a first impression from "literally baby" tends to be detrimental to noticing the areas where that's no longer true.
But more than those things (and much as parents will parrot this when attempting to assert vetoes over stuff their future teenagers will do), parents are generally way too close to the problem. Stuff that's obviously wrong to outside observers won't clock that way, and since the only person who'll ever be held to account for that is them 10-40 years down the line, with a healthy dose of "well, it worked, didn't it?", it's not something one is going to casually get shocked out of doing.
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The purpose of this place is specifically to exclude this line of reasoning, because the answer of "the outgroup is ontologically evil" is trivial and boring. That way lies shady thinking, bad arguments, and no room for synthesis.
The [unstated] paradox of this place is that, if our outgroup wasn't ontologically evil, it wouldn't need to exist.
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