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ThisIsSin

Pareo distribution: whereby 20% of the fabric shows 80% of the body

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ThisIsSin

Pareo distribution: whereby 20% of the fabric shows 80% of the body

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If you can afford to be.

There are plenty of non-coercive policy options for promoting eugenic pairings.

That doesn't matter, though, because nearly all of them ultimately lead back to the "male oppressors incentivizing -> suggesting -> forcing me to do my job do the thing that requires I be dependent on a man" thing.

The only policy that will work is to valorize and protect those who do their job, but you can only have that in societies that are allowed to accept their own right to rule. (Which is why women reflexively oppose any social movement that suggests this; after all, according to the stereotype, all social turmoil ever comes from the cardinal sin of ever permitting a man to think he can do something right.)

Ah, but the only reason they do that is to protect female class interests when the law has to be symmetric for some reason (women want it to be illegal to fuck young women more than they want the right to fuck young men [which affects a rounding error number of women, and the women who do engage in this are the pick-me-est of pick-mes so they're also hated by women in general]).

Eugenics is different, since the median woman assumes it'll affect who the median woman has babies with.

under the impression it was an open secret

Not according to the demographic most likely to take it seriously (which conversely Just So Happens to be the demographic that suffers from SIDS the least frequently), who are likely to try and spend resources preventing it.

Plus, not many people want to be a big meanie and ask too many difficult questions to a parent (especially a mother) who just lost a baby

Beyond very obvious depraved-heart stuff like "gave birth in a bathroom and left the baby in the toilet" I think it's good such questions not be asked. If they were, we'd only be prosecuting it if the mother was white, as a natural extension of who over-zealous CPS reporting is most likely to affect now.

I appreciate the fan theory that Connery's character in The Rock is fully intended to be "what if Connery Bond, but captured by the US for 30 years?".

I don't feel the same amount of grief, though, since the series is hit or miss- for each Bond that actually got 4-5 movies, 2-3 of them are good, and the others are a bit more forgettable.

I think the casting decisions made for each Bond were on their own pretty good. I can't actually picture Connery in Moonraker or Man with the Golden Gun, for instance; Brosnan belongs in the Brosnan movies, and so on. This applies especially to the Craig movies; he's just not the man the others are, so it wouldn't make sense for any of the others to portray him (except Dalton, I guess, since the cutting edge being 'a more vulnerable Bond' popped up in the 80s too).

The oppression is already here. Men and women aren't allowed to agree on the rules of engagement, you aren't permitted a place to raise your kid without paying ruinous costs in rent because building is illegal, the list goes on.

Just because it doesn't on its face look like what Boomers (or prior generations) told you oppression would look like, and just because you can still technically bear it, doesn't mean it isn't oppression.

if we defined "economic violence" equally broadly then it wouldn't need to be a robbery - a shoplifter pushing past a security guard would qualify.

Honestly, why shouldn't we define "economic violence" that way?

Stealing sexual value is to women like stealing economic value is to men (for control over that is what that sex uses to impress the other), so a regime that treated men and women equally should logically treat both just as seriously.

Female sexuality should not be looked at thru a rationalist brain.

Why not? It's just the mirror image of stuff men do that women haven't correctly communicated when to and not to do, like that whole "take them seriously but not literally, also ignore half the things she says because that's how the emotional spam filter works [and the 'attractive self-respect' thing comes from the 'doesn't respond to every emotional outburst about X']" thing.

It's not a direct counterpart, but men and women are different and start from initial conditions (inherent scarcity, etc.), so it's going to be expressed differently. Men (especially straight ones- it gets complicated when they're not) don't really have the circuitry to appreciate why you'd want a Cluster B werewolf billionaire, so it's difficult to know when to act like one (re: PUA, which as I understand it sums up to 'treat them like they're in a porno'; women will do the same thing to men sometimes, but less often because it's [socially] costlier for women to do that).

According to research, globally, sex workers have a 45% to 75% chance of experiencing sexual violence on the job

That's one hell of an error bar, so the research is garbage.

many previous & current progressive movements

Repeat after me: progressives are not liberals. I get that it's very confusing, especially if you're in certain bubbles that made much hay claiming they were the same (because in large degree the marriage of convenience between the two was still running at the time). The difference is that liberals actually like sex and aren't turbo-butthurt about its existence, while progressives are existentially threatened by anyone else but them controlling sex and sexual expression (because it is all the value they offer- that's part of why they're so attached to education as an alternate path). Needless to say this is mostly a thing with female progressives; the men might parrot it but they don't truly understand it (the ones that do tend to be traditionalists, which is just progressivism with the opposite gender valence).

I struggle to see how these individuals may square this perspective that sex work is valid, despite fitting the bill of objectification.

The clue is that progressives tend to believe it should be legal to sell sex, but illegal to buy it, which takes the price of sex up to infinity. Any sex (or sexual expression) that occurs must be maximally monetized, or it's offering an alternative to that monopoly.

This is why progressives get extremely angry about older men dating younger women: the motte cope is "she's being taken advantage of", the bailey truth is "she's getting more money for the sex than I ever would, which drives the price I can get for my sex down".
When women say the existence of something "devalues sex", they're being literal because it actually does.


So it's not the sexual objectification they're objecting to, it's getting around the fee they feel is due. Sexual labor (which for women is "being observed while sexually desirable") without pay. Progressives don't like sex work because it makes that fee legible, which is a threat; its legality is generally a compromise they struck with the liberals in the original anti-traditionalist compact. They do reserve the right to play at sexual labor, though, which is how they justify to themselves having made that deal, and is also why they don't really have much problem with non-straight sex (it's orthogonal to the market).

Which is why it's also important to identify what kind of feminist you're dealing with- some are just happy not to be under traditionalism (and will deploy patriarchy and equality arguments to that end- that's who they originally came from, and still have some truth to them), while others are trying to impose a matriarchy instead (and generally using the descriptive liberal arguments as prescriptive weapons).

People use the term "predator" indistinguishably from "men" (and "straight" and "white", to a lesser degree). Again, no evolved memetic defense system against this; it was reality that kept this from getting out of control. Kind of like how in US politics you get extreme rhetoric but the Constitution prevents it from getting too out of hand.

Now that reality no longer gives men that advantage, you get both barrels, it's that simple. Of course there are a few societies that can avoid this, so you find things that seem strange to Western ears where women defend certain extremes of male sexuality (re: female politicians defending loli), but they also aren't Western, and they still can't reproduce above replacement.

Perhaps, then, that's a part of why the ingroup vs. outgroup behaviors really evolved: if you have one ingroup and 5 outgroup tied to the track, you can sleep easy not pulling the lever specifically because they are your outgroup. Remember, humanity didn't even invent 'love your enemies'-style accountability, and even that's pretty vague in terms of what you're actually required to do there.

Most of the equivocation about this topic mostly comes down to the fact that in this situation, and in psychologically-normal human beings (the sociopaths are going to sleep easy regardless), a justification will be found to either pull or not pull the lever, because the decision must be made.