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				Culture War Roundup for the week of June 1, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
NZ is also beholden to American interests in a way Argentina is not, re: Kim Dotcom, and those interests are generally Blue-aligned.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of June 1, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
A slow Tuesday on Xbox Live?


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of June 1, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


a live-action film in which the protagonist is a prepubescent child (e.g. Home Alone, the Harry Potter films) is not




Absolutely.  Fuck any real representation and wish-fulfillment for ~10% of the population.  Self-actualization should be confined to grownups only.


(Ironically, most kids and teens in animation are usually voice-acted by grown women; the few notable exceptions to that off the top of my head being TAWOG, Chowder, and the Iron Giant.)


You can fix most of the other issues with payment later or with some other contrivance, but I'm firmly in the 'stay in Omelas' camp here; the ideal number of burnt-out child stars in a healthy society is not 0 specifically for that reason.


"But muh creative freedom" is a nonsense complaint here, because what you're suggesting would completely destroy the ability to have sitcoms that feature families (alongside, uh, most of the Spielberg catalogue).  Erasing portrayals of that from TV and film because it's Unsafe will surely help TFR.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of June 1, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


Modern society, on the other hand, does not believe that the ruling class assumed its status through hereditary privilege




The ruling class in modern society assumed its status exclusively through age (and to a point, gender, but it's the vaguest possible one as it's a whole 50% of the population).


This is orthogonal to actual merit (which is generally what hereditary privilege implies), which is why the standards this class imposed as they came to power were destructive.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of June 1, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Polite society ceased to believe it needed to offer a benefit to observing its standards.  Most have noticed.


"Standards on polite society" impose noblesse oblige over the sum of societal actors who control what politeness is.  Cancel culture was their effort to keep things in line.


What benefit did accepting cancellation or playing by those standards offer anyone else?  Financial ruin, felony charges, and death.


So we can't have standards in this age.  Much like the ozone layer, the societal machinery that enabled them has been damaged and will take some time to regenerate.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of May 25, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


No idea what kind of filter bubble could separate us on that.




Well, I know (or rather, knew, they're older now) teenagers, and in particular whose parents tend to be pretty intelligent though on the old side- so they benefit/suffer from the same late-Boomer social/parenting patterns with which I am familiar.  This filter bubble was honestly just luck [and to a degree did indeed provide a sort of second teenager-hood; it's uncanny the second time around].


It's partly cultural compression; I don't find circumstances growing up now to be particularly different from that which were present in my time, but that's also because most of the sabotage to the cultural push/rewards of growing up was already done before I got there, so there wasn't much left to take away.  (This was mostly something that happened in the '80s, as I understand it.)


It's more just the room temperature and the 'artificially zero expectations during critical period' that does most of the damage resulting in these guys just acting slightly off, like they're invisibly handcuffed to something.  "You shouldn't try because you're undeveloped" combined with teenagers being smart or agreeable enough to take that advice seriously is destructive (and can evoke certain Uncle Ruckus-like behaviors with respect to each other too).  I think most adults tend to take for granted some in-built biological resistance to that meme because "well, if someone told me that I would have just done it anyway out of spite" but I'm not so sure.  It's that kid who clicks "no" to the site banner that asks them if they're 18 yet, where honesty and conscientiousness become vices.


Some of them are even self-aware enough to wonder where the opportunity for them to create the stories their parents always tell is, or when it's going to show up.  It's very strange and to be honest quite depressing that [society in general] still suffers from this problem, and I don't know (but think very often, perhaps too much) about how to break it (and trying to identify where to settle, in a place that maximally permits this sort of thing, is one of the things I tell myself delays family formation on my end).






20somethings who are trying to prolong their childhood rarely act self-aware




Self-awareness is really rare anyway; those who have it but would rather spend time Motteposting rarer still.


I noticed a good chunk of this effect in my 10s (perhaps I might say I was radicalized from an early age).  The distractions that were thrown my way proved effective enough though (plus, even though I underrate this, I got a chance to work in places that are either illegal [now] or highly unusual- I didn't just do nothing, even though it feels like it a lot of the time), but a lot of time I'm recalling things I specifically promised myself at the time I'd remember (and commit to not doing in the future).  Emotional states reacting to certain things, etc.


I'm well past 20something at this point, but for a couple of reasons won't clock (to even said aformentioned teenagers) as someone who's doing this.  Part of that is that I'm just as meme-poisoned, I guess (I skip a certain piece of modern slang, but I also skipped modern slang back when I was an actual teenager, so...), but I think the bigger part of it is that I actually kind of like teenagers (or the stereotypical attitude they have more generally), and maybe the relative lack of awkwardness does most of the passing (or rather, I'm just as awkward around these guys as I am around everyone else, which is especially apparent whenever I interact with someone younger than that).  But, who can say.


But then I never grew up in an area where the average 10-something was particularly stupid/irresponsible (i.e. exceeding expectations), went to what you'd call a charter school, and grew up in the (equivalent of the) Purple part of a Blue state.  So the concept that the young are actually more thoughtful [and risk-averse] once out of adult earshot is pretty natural to me (and experience bears that out); whether that's simply caused by the assumption that they wouldn't be, I don't know.


It's also more widespread than that; more generally, I've noticed interactions (just walking around in public) where the kid notices something before the parent does (usually a car, or someone taking a photo), and the kid's already corrected the problem before the adult can tell them to.  And I think that some of that's just caused by inherently having experienced them at their worst and most helpless, but I think a lot of it is either just not paying attention, or not having the time/context/energy to know when to pay attention to the fact they're going to automatically do it.  Maybe "being told to do something I was already doing" is just uniquely annoying to me, but I don't think it is.




I think some of the problem is that we don't teach people how to lead properly, and now that there's less organic opportunity (both to make mistakes, and the mistakes made are costlier now) the people who did learn it organically are now failing to compensate for the fact you seem to have to intentionally encourage that development now.  Because the teenage rebellion meme isn't strong enough and won't help the people who weren't going to do it anyway.


(And the people who don't aren't necessarily doing it on purpose, since there's the power angle to consider, and the biology angle, and the cost angle, and the "they're turning into someone you hate" angle, and the "I spent 13 years raising this kid why aren't my old strategies working please help me" angle... tend to frustrate the powers of observation -> ability to compensate for this in people I believe have those powers.)


It's kind of the definition of a wicked problem.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of May 25, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Agreed with, via edit.  In the 21st century, you either have to travel above the hecklers and their vetoes (by air), or below them (by Hyperloop).  One's cheaper than the other.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of May 25, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


so they're generally on parity




I'd say they're better than merely on parity, to the degree that construction techniques and materials science in the '00s and '10s was better than it was in the '60s and '70s.  Questionable quality control might offset that a bit, though.


HSR is kind of a meme in the US because its hybrid private-public transit infrastructure, which takes up a significant amount of space (every building has a station beneath it that usually stores at least one bus per tenant), is already so good that they don't really need it.  Mandating the speed limit on the highways be increased to 100 mph would probably be just as time and cost-effective if not more so (yes, it burns more fuel, but the cost of that is just as much a tax as raising revenue for HSR would be).


Sure, the HSR might technically be faster, but now you're dependent on public transit to do anything, which is generally so slow that the time lost to driving still arguably makes sense (or you have to rent a car to get where you're going).  Air travel has the same problem, actually- its average speed is about HSR-tier thanks to the TSA- but air travel has no need for rails, which means zero infrastructure spend, zero public upkeep beyond ATC, zero need to level the terrain, zero need to acquire terrain, and nearly zero ability for hecklers to veto via environmental complaint.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of May 25, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Trigun, trivially, but that’s Eastern media and probably doesn’t count.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of May 25, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Rape is in a separate class for reasons that aren't merely psychological, of course.


While I don't deny that "forcible confinement" and "assaulted so hard you suffer lifelong injury" do have psychological effects (in a way entirely dissimilar to underage sex, doubly so when the underaged is male), we punish rape because those things have physical consequences- things we have an objective measure for, and an objective remedy.


That's not something you can do for psychological harm, which is why it's a useful vehicle for concern trolling to justify whatever you'd like without actual evidence.  Because I guarantee you that I can absolutely find "evidence" to substantiate misgendering being just as psychologically harmful to someone as actual (to say nothing of pretend) rape is (and not infrequently claimed to be identically harmful, for that matter).




I could hear an argument that psychological harm is something we should respect, but it would need to be done in a way that doesn't max out the scale in favor of the interests of people with a biological predisposition to catastrophism the instant it's switched on.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of May 25, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
You yourself claimed elsewhere in this thread some burdensome trauma about not being ready to live in the face of women suggesting you were.


The statement and phrasing are trivially correct.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of May 25, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Abel must privilege Cain, because Cain will commit murder if he is not privileged.  This is a universal problem.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of May 25, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


They’ve read it in a book




Of course, the people complaining about opportunities to gain that experience also conveniently tend to be traumatized by books and other media that describe it too.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of May 25, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


The harm does not become the fault of the person who has been harmed just because he could have had values under which it would not be harm.




So you're in favor of criminal penalties for misgendering, then?  Because that (and safetyism more generally) is the logical conclusion to giving this argument any legal weight.


This is why we tend to set hard boundaries on "what a member of society is allowed to consider harm".  1A is like that- it absolutely oppresses the easily offended and the incorrect, who are forced to suffer the existence of [thing they don't like].


Of course, we only cover specific things there, so a Karen not consenting to your child walking down the street alone can effectively order him arrested for that crime, even in nominally liberal countries.


Those people have to be oppressed in this way- forced to suffer the existence of things that disgust and terrify them- for a pluralistic society to function.  As a (classic) liberal, I assert this is justice.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of May 25, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
But they know what sex is.


Not complicated, as long as they're not doing the male feminist thing like the GP is.  They know if they want to do it or not, and assertions that they're traumatized by the offer are destructive when listened to from either gender.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of May 25, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


The couple has to prove their relationship is healthy when challenged, but they should be able to prove it.




It has nothing to do with the outcome for the couple (insert "I consent/I consent/I don't" meme here).




Whatever age you decide on as the cutoff, it means that the society assumes consent when both partners are above this age




It doesn't even do this now.  It's actually impossible to consent to sex; participants cannot bind themselves in this way (and may cry rape/coercion ex post facto at any time no matter how ridiculous it is).


But that was the problem with defining "consent" to stop needing to have the "sex isn't harmful to anyone, so that's why kids can have it" argument in the first place. Consent is simply waiving the veto power society entitles you to over sex, which is why doing so is not possible.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of May 25, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Then empirically, they aren't that smart.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of May 25, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


Why do Americans refuse to have adultery laws but yet they have all these absurdly cruel victimless crime sex laws?




The laws against young men having sex are mainly there as a logical/equal-opportunity side-effect of society's desire to punish sex with young women.


It's not that complicated.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of May 25, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Depends on whether you think the mindset behind success at basketball is good or not.


If you don't, you'll say "it's not worth the time/resources to teach these people before it is physically optimal, what about the risk of injury to self or others?".  If your social position is threatened by people better able to play this game, you will generally be in this camp.  This is the "conservative" position.


If you do, you'll likely be in favor of encouraging young people to play basketball, and you accept the fact that some of them will play poorly, break bones, etc.  If your social position is not threatened by people better able to play this game, you will generally be in this camp.  This is the "liberal" position.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of May 25, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
The right also errs by conflating progressives (as in, the right-in-waiting) and liberals.  Part of that is (to borrow another comment) that their TV hasn't gotten over the fact it's not 1989 any more.


The "left" actually does keep boundaries and standards, you just either don't know what they are, don't like how they're justified, or are simply confused by the fact they call them something else (and you need a tool like POSIWID to figure that out).


For example, their criminals are their police- they're policing Racial Injustice, one taxation event (theft) at a time, until the conditions are right for the[ir] government do the stealing with that justification.  So is their drug policy- after all, they couldn't help but be someone who gets addicted to drugs, and your broken window and stolen goods are their healthcare policy.  Immigration's the same thing; they believe they live in exclaves threatened by the existence of the rest of the [outgroup]/nation, and open borders is the natural Uno Reverse card.




The problem with conservatism (as in, where the right-in-waiting is headed) is that there isn't actually any way to moderate it, because its moral foundations are different and thus demand an infinite contribution to its memes.  Liberalism is not like that because it draws its strength from where the memes are wrong, which is why they go back and forth between estabilshment and establishment-in-waiting.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of May 25, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


Once these boomers are gone, I think these silly views will fade away.




I don't believe so.  It's just that these silly views will be yours, so you won't see them as silly, and you'll start worshiping Your Experience and insisting others do as well because that'll be the only value you'll have left.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of May 25, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


basing adulthood on brain maturation




Which is a self-fulfilling prophecy.


People think this process occurs magically, like some sort of "everyone's born black but they lighten gradually over time, and are granted rights at a specific shade of white", but people who maturity isn't expected of do not mature.


Set the age and expectations at X, and you'll see development delayed to match.  The soft bigotry of low expectations is a thing.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of May 25, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


There’s a reason citizens have “equality before the law.”




No they don't; the under-[age] are far less equal, and any attempt to raise that age is simultaneously an attempt to undermine that norm.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of May 25, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
At the limit, the only thing considered high class by a gerontocracy is death, and the forced worship thereof crowds out everything else, including the concept that men should expect to live at all.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of May 25, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
And for bonus points, getting charged as an adult for a crime that can only be committed by a minor.


The system is broken, and the young are too weak to purge it.