ThisIsSin
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ThisIsSin
PC is for progressive-conservative
1d ago
"porn made me do it"
What, you don't find it strange that the overlap between "porn made me do it" and [some form of] "I've recovered from addiction" [generally using the words 'recovered', 'detoxed', and my personal favorite 'normal and heterosexual'] is functionally total?
I get that there are sometimes specific ideological considerations for using those words but, like, they talk like they're going to relapse any second if not for [insert here]. It's not like sex isn't addictive, and a component of a core biological drive, but I think there's an epistemic gulf between "lol fukken saved" and "this has literally consumed my life".
there was no “rabbit hole”
Understandable; most of the anime boorus don't really feature much furry content anyway.
ThisIsSin
PC is for progressive-conservative
1d ago
slave away
Relative to citizens they are slaves.
Problem is, [relative] slavery to Americans is preferable to living in the countries they come from.
Blue tribe technically could make that argument, but because their ur-grievance and founding myth is built with around slave labor, they would never in a million years do that.
They see that the US is very bent on kicking out foreigners, and for them a few weeks of imprisonment between their visa being invalidated and them getting deported would actually matter.
The US is in an anti-slavery mood, and is now more critically examining visas for evidence of slavery. (And sure, one could hold the Korean example of misused B visas up as a standard of "they didn't necessarily know at the time their duties would require them to violate US anti-slavery law"... but that's the textbook definition of human trafficking.)
ThisIsSin
PC is for progressive-conservative
1d ago
That is a benefit of having a working legal system
And a failure state of that system is "ceases to function because those who enforce the law are prevented from doing so by the mob". The Mexicans, and residents of other Latin American countries, are very well acquainted with this concept. So are the Italians, the Russians, and other Europeans from countries east of Germany to varying degrees.
But unlike the latter, the ICE goons will not even get debanked.
The anti-ICE faction/mob has already done that for causes far more anodyne than "enforced the law", and this unites that cause far more than factory farmers. (International arms traders are sanctioned by both sides, yellow press journalists and gang members are core Blue tribe constituencies so they'll never be sanctioned, and health insurance executives are too lucrative to debank.)
ThisIsSin
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2d ago
Why not give Antifa up as the sacrificial goat they so clearly want to be?
...why would any authoritarian political party turn over its brownshirts? Their violence can swing elections, you know.
That said, it's only been 8 months and solid links to Blue's organized militia with the recent spate of Blue political violence are still kind of sparse. Perhaps the current administration doesn't think they have enough to go to RICO, given that the previous administration and a great deal of state and local law enforcement were aiding and abetting them.
ThisIsSin
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2d ago
It's actually crazy that you get to be that age and you still genuinely think that deploying the voice normally used for 5-year-old kids on 11-ish-year-old kids (or somewhere in there, I dunno) is a good idea.
Why? Kids are inferior- being older is considered a prestigious badge of rank (it's even easier to become old than it is to become a parent)- and that's how you talk to your inferiors. (What are they going to do, not vote for you? That's a problem for future-you.)
More seriously, a significant fraction of adults believe, conspicuously, that (like the rest of the world was) they were created last Thursday as a fully-formed adult. Thus, they can claim to have memories of childhood, but since they're also aware those are artificial, they have zero relevance to anyone they're talking to and can safely be discarded. So they might legitimately believe they remember, but since they're fundamentally unsullied by the experience, there's no implied responsibility to use the data in those memories (especially if it would require 5 seconds of mental effort or other similar impositions, or taking a risk for which you bear most of the moral hazard).
I have yet to fully figure out why this is, beyond it just being a power thing (and perhaps necessary in some cases) and most people having comparatively poor long-term memory (incapacity and malice being indistinguishable at the extremes, of course). That's why people think 5 and 15 are the same age- this is most apparent in people who are very slightly older than that for some reason. It's also a habit thing for parents, who tend to get really anxious and self-conscious about the tricks used to control 5 year olds no longer working as well on 15 year olds.
ThisIsSin
PC is for progressive-conservative
2d ago
Their risk of dying of COVID is pretty much zero. If we're spending any significant energy on trying to make sure ICE agents don't die of COVID we're being stupid and should stop.
Oh no, that's actually why they need the masks. Or at least, that's how it should be justified since the people who are anti-enforcing-immigration-law are also in large degree the people still worried about the uncommon cold.
ThisIsSin
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2d ago
I would rather see enforcement increase in harshness by several multiples without concealing the faces of the enforcers rather than undermine that norm.
Meh, they’re protecting themselves from the unvaccinated.
Joking aside, it’s also in response to another norm, which is “technological bookkeepers can unperson you at any time now or in the future if you are ever caught enforcing laws they don’t like”.
This wasn’t as much a problem 50 years ago, for obvious reasons, but it is today. And we can write legislation so that that doesn’t happen, but we haven’t done that yet, and we want to start enforcing the law right now.
So yeah, they need the masks.
ThisIsSin
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3d ago
Most women reading (read?) the magazine called Seventeen are in their early tens, too.
ThisIsSin
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4d ago
I've never seen anyone in-ernest complaining that disparate conviction rates on the basis of gender being a sign of "Systemic Sexism".
Even though that is, of course, exactly what's happening. We more often do that for conviction terms since it's more measurable there.
Female anti-sociality takes a lot more work to root out and is a lot more plausibly deniable than male anti-social behavior, due to a variety of factors (some evolutionary, some not). So a legal system that only sees on bright lines only punishes them when they act out in ways that match male anti-social behavior, which is called that because men function more along those lines.
The ways in we used to tamp down on this behavior in an equal way is what feminists mean when they say "sexism": fuzzy social laws designed to deal with the gender whose anti-social behavior is inherently harder to police in an equitable way compared to the way we punish male anti-social behavior (which we can at least gather evidence for).
Just because you aren't looking for it, or don't have the words to describe it (because they have perhaps been erased) doesn't mean the intent isn't there. Defining rape in a way only men can commit it doesn't magically make women incapable of it.
but the takes aren't typically "eliminate the women's restroom completely" or "repeal Title IX to have a single sports league again".
What's good for the gander is good for the goose.
ThisIsSin
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4d ago
with the woke cancellations it was mostly twitter mobs pressuring private companies
But beyond that, it was governments pressuring banks. Like, Operation Chokepoint was a thing, and arguably it continues to be a thing with the credit card companies still being pressured by plausibly-deniable paragovernmental organizations (that whole porn ban thing).
I don’t think it changes much that it’s blatantly public, though it certainly does for others who are not aware that their pressure wasn’t just the people power they think it was.
ThisIsSin
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5d ago
enforcer-transgressor dichotomy
A thought on this: the definition of 'conservative' is being on the enforcer side (the act of enforcement is tautologically conservative), and then you have the reformers and reactionaries on the other side.
Progressives have been under the pretense that they were in the transgressor role (and to a degree inherit a movement that is axiomatically transgressive, which is why they, and traditionalist-leaning reactionaries, erroneously call them 'liberals'), but transgression and entrenchment are indistinguishable to any faction that depends on entrenchment.
In general, they seem much more inclined to pushing forward a prescriptive vision of American culture than other factions in American politics.
Progressives have had them beat on that front since at least before the Civil War. (Why else do you think the faction opposed to them still uses the stars and bars?)
It is useful to be able to point out that even classical liberals will act like conservatives once they manage to get into power. "Maximally correct" is not a viable political identity because as soon as the conditions are right to enable rent-seeking on what was a mostly correct answer, that is what gets entrenched, and it remains that way until enough social activation energy accumulates such that it is pushed back by a new truth. Which then entrenches, and like the tides, the cycle repeats.
ThisIsSin
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6d ago
Apparently there was a meltdown at/coming home from/because of? school that had something to do with going with the other boys to the bathroom.
And so his authority figures, on a hair trigger for trans, see trans in every GNC behavior a 4 year old exhibits. They're in a hurry to validate it, partially because they've been told they should be, but also because having a social token is just the greatest, isn't it?
that had something to do with going with the other boys to the bathroom
What, did he decide to take a piss sitting down and the other boys made fun of him for doing that? (Or for the more obvious 'being present in the boy's bathroom while looking like a girl'[1]?) You know, opposed to the way you are Supposed to, which is to casually whip that private part out, piss all over yourself and the floor and otherwise make a big mess, and that's assuming you don't have other people actively fucking with you. I don't remember if they mount the pissers low enough to be used by a kid of that height, though maybe it doesn't matter.
using backwards pronouns for himself and others
And maybe if we didn't spend the last 15 years playing stupid social games about this, this wouldn't trigger that absurd overreaction. Yes, I'm sure a 4 year old doing that means the same thing as it does when a 24 year old does that. He's not even old enough to natively know why writing "yes" or "no such luck" in the form that asks for your "sex" is funny yet.
He's not even that girly
And yet from your description he has hair long enough to 'wear it like a girl', and is not only patient enough for someone (probably a girl he gets along with) to paint his nails, but not be troubled by what it means. Sounds pretty girly to me, and perhaps more importantly, [1]I bet it probably sounds pretty girly to the average teacher, and the average 5 year old boy.
But then, it's not like that's really a bad thing... until you put him an environment that's actively trying to "encourage him to express his true feminine identity" as a consequence. That's just plain old sexual interference, and his folks really do need to protect him from teachers who insist on doing that, because they are as incapable of policing themselves as the Church was.
There's a difference between 'I think I'll wear [girl clothes] because I feel like it today' and 'I think I'll wear [girl clothes] because it validates my identity as a girl'. (There are some sensory considerations here that will result in boys actively preferring dresses under certain conditions, so that may be less connected with some sense of gender identity than might otherwise be apparent. Of course, I would say that, wouldn't I.)
ThisIsSin
PC is for progressive-conservative
7d ago
the child is likely experiencing social contagion
Another +1 for the "adults are all Last Thursdayists" hypothesis. I get that it's very convenient to model kids as basically unthinking robots but they do have their own motivations and internal reasons for doing things. Those reasons are usually simple enough to be trivially back-propagated but that's naturally difficult when your robot's also giving you lip.
The follow-on comment to that one kind of confirmed my suspicion. Just because he's likely pretty girly already doesn't make him a girl, for various reasons; and there's a productive and unproductive way to handle that fact.
The relevant authority figures have selected the unproductive, destructive, and selfish way to deal with that, and "being too stupid or actively going along with those things for social reasons"... well, that's what molesters do and how they work, and pulling back is likely justified on those grounds.
But it's not the kid, lol.
ThisIsSin
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7d ago
Is it really so hard to believe?
Western society believes women are (for a variety of reasons) definitionally incapable of molesting children, and as a result we have no words to describe what it looks like when children are molested by women. Parents come up with a variety of justifications to look the other way, especially when they're part of the priesthood (churches and schools/priests and teachers are very similar in their social roles in modern times, and churches have been around sufficiently long to be present in humanity's genetic memory).
We pattern match it to "literally fucking" because of our modern pretense that men and women are the same- and in its majestic equality, the law prohibits both genders from engaging in molester behaviors overwhelmingly preferred by men [be they perpetrator or victim].
It is completely natural that the sex that receives sexual gratification from being an oppressed social token should perpetrate its sexual interference by trying to turn little boys into oppressed social tokens. This is why they believe it necessary to try and induce that identity. It's really not about encouraging the sex, it's about inculcating submissiveness to, and the sexual excitement of, being under the thumb of the patriarchy Big, Bad Men.
In this case, he most likely acted different, and different = submissive and breedable oppressed by default, so why shouldn't he be introduced to the sexual arousal that comes from being in the uniform of different? It's also absurdly heteronormative if you think about it for 5 seconds- it's just that instead of "men can't wear dresses, dresses are for women, it is not for men to wear", it's "men can't wear dresses, dresses are for women, therefore anyone who wears a dress is a woman"- but female sexuality is just as heteronormative as male sexuality is, so...
Then let some UN or NGOs do it.
Yes, let the organizations that are actively trying to secure a Hamas win distribute food. That'll definitely fix the problem.
An explicitly pro-Israel NGO doing it would have better results, because they will genuinely attempt to make sure that does not occur, but their work would be frustrated because of (and by) the above.
ThisIsSin
PC is for progressive-conservative
7d ago
I believe this is a social contagion
But not an organic one. That one's pretty obviously top-down. That'll teach him to get along with the girls and choose the dollhouse or toy stove over the blocks and trucks in centers, I guess- or at least, it'll certainly teach him how idiot adults see those things. Certainly an important lesson, best learned early.
What the hell do I do?
Nothing, or however you'd nominally handle the general form of "but his mom lets him X and Y" if and when your kid asks why he can't be a girl too. Your way of doing that may be productive, or it may not, but that's up to you.
As for "what's he called today?", well, you'll likely be sorting that out with him directly (as will your kids, in their own way). I'm sure you have enough social grace to figure out how to confirm someone's name if you forgot. Preferably when there's nobody to answer that question for him present, of course.
I also believe that kids emulate each other.
Ah, but kids also question each other, especially if it's about something particularly unusual. You might not find the answers to those questions satisfactory, but I assure you they do eventually get asked.
ThisIsSin
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7d ago
I also want an overwhelming number of guns (specifically pistols) airdropped into Gaza too. A Tokarev for every man, woman, and child.
Hamas is already as armed as they need to be and wouldn't benefit from more guns (and these personal defense weapons aren't really suitable for waging a non-civil war). I want everyone else to be, so that when Hamas tries to seize the food or set up forward bases in places in which they are not welcome they get shot the fuck up. Israel already has to assume every Palestinian is armed because Palestinians and Hamasi look the exact same, so it's not hurting them.
ThisIsSin
PC is for progressive-conservative
7d ago
people in denial about the situation
Honestly, I'd argue tapping non-Israeli radicals for this makes the most sense here for that reason.
See, to win this war and get the best outcome for Palestinians, you don't need to kill all the Palestinians (obviously). You just need to kill enough of the Hamasi until the Palestinians can subjugate them on their own.
This is what the UN doesn't get (the leftists who make up the organization adore the Hamasi for political reasons and their defeat would harm them back home[1]), and it's what the IDF no longer understands (because they are far less willing to draw a distinction between Hamasi and Palestinian, and also because their interests are only minimally served by a denazified de-Hamasified Palestine that recovers and proceeds to actually make something of itself).
[1] The destruction of the Hamasi would show that violent parasitism won't be tolerated, and because it would prove that having a certain skin color won't save you. Both of those things are explicitly policy goals of the left, hence the proxy war in the West over it.
Is it, though?
The law courts of the US had a pretty lazy response when it came to the Left doing this with respect to threatening to sanction online platforms. Why should this be different?
(I'm not a fan of licensure being abused in this way, but then I remember debanking. This is one of those things that could and should be fixed with legislation.)
ThisIsSin
PC is for progressive-conservative
9d ago
acting with blatant corruption
By that you mean "moral" corruption, and that appears to be the root of the disagreement. Conservatives (and the average leftist is motivated by the same things per Haidt- after all, they [perceive themselves to have at least perpetuated if not] built the system, they are interested in that work meaning something) correctly observe that people who are unwilling to respect their prerogatives of decorum are probably unwilling to respect conservative framings entirely.
For instance, if a conservative redefines X to mean Y "because it's what decent people do" (read: because I make money hand-over-fist; business always marches alongside honor), a reformer might then redefine word X as Z and reject definition Y with prejudice, which will disadvantage and destabilize conservatives that built their fortunes around definition Y.
"Where my country gone?" is a conservative statement, it's just coming from the left now.
We had this really great thing going being not just the most economically powerful but also the most intellectually productive country in the world, and we acted as a vacuum sucking up all the intelligent and ambitious people from around the world and having them come here to build things with us.
Well, as long as they were the correct color. They had quotas for that, just like they did in the '50s, for the same reasons they had them in the '50s.
we’ve destroyed science funding in the country
Science that doesn't replicate isn't science, and the initiatives to do R&D were also suffering from the "so long as they're the right color" problem. I guess it's the age-old dilemma where you can either do science or you can sacrifice it to be anti-racist, just from the right's definition of anti-racism instead of the left's. Naturally, this is moral corruption to the left, just like ending racism the first time was to the right.
we’re letting China and the rest of the world
No, only China. Nobody else invested into the tooling to manufacture the panels for the same reason the US couldn't- too expensive. The West has already lost the battle for renewable energy sovereignty (and already won the battle for forcing Europe into a dependence on American natural gas by successfully provoking a war in Ukraine); the only question is whether we want to pay now to redevelop indigenous green energy generation capacity, or pay later by having to do that anyway when China starts making diplomatic demands in exchange.
Now, are tariffs the right way to do that given how long it takes to spin up manufacturing in a country that has largely forgotten how to do it? Well, maybe not (annexing the country with a good chunk of high-tech manufacturing immediately to the north is likely to be the better long-term plan here). But it does strike me as interesting that the Rs have pivoted into being the party of bad ideas and the Ds into the party of no ideas.
ThisIsSin
PC is for progressive-conservative
9d ago
It doesn't apply here
Sure it does, if you consider the Right marginalized and the Left privileged. Sure, "enemy's tools, enemy's house" and all that but one side being completely and knowingly self-serving in the implementation of that concept does not reality deny.
ThisIsSin
PC is for progressive-conservative
9d ago
What leftist movement has been obsessed with concepts like purifying the racial makeup of the country?
All Progressive movements have been trying to do this for at least the last 30 years.
Of course, to them "purifying" means "needs less white" rather than (or perhaps as a reaction to) "needs more white", and have mirrored justifications for this ('stolen land', 'be charitable', 'black lives matter', etc.)
ThisIsSin
PC is for progressive-conservative
9d ago
Personally I'd say both are lacking in the broader culture and so we have more broken people now than ever.
We have a societal oversupply of people that Know Better. It is difficult for a young person to be pushed to become stronger because the elders say that's too dangerous, things that get broken over the course of developing that strength are too expensive, wait until you're older, "not a human being until 25", blah blah blah.
The problem with the youth is not that they don't listen; the problem with the youth is that they take their elders far too seriously.
ThisIsSin
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11d ago
Wake me up when you have women contributing to the survival of your Viking overlords.
to entice and trap men
You're proving too much.
While a young woman whose chest inflates to an absurd size while she laughs maniacally is a really funny mental image (compare that one Wojak where the guy is sitting on his brain), it's also kind of silly.
The root of the matter is that sexual dimorphism [and hence division of labor] is, from an evolutionary standpoint, superior to the alternative. That's why it persists in most creatures, to some degree, including humans.
We could go down the modern academic route of "well, then obviously evolution was intentionally sexist", and that said dimorphism was established and imposed by a genetically-inbuilt plot by men, but you will notice that women were (and are) emancipated [from men] relatively quickly after a particular society's technology level makes that feasible, a tipping point the modern West crossed around 1910 (and completed that project around 1970; though note that 2 world wars, a famine, and [so far] the depression may have slowed that down some).
That's a remarkably quick turnaround for a gender inherently programmed to oppress women. What's going on there?
Well, that got a good chuckle out of me.
In my defense, I was thinking more about the standard predator-animal sparkle dog fare when I wrote that. I figure rabbits in particular are probably close enough to ‘loli in a onesie’ that they cross-pollinate, but I dunno. I was mostly thinking about that fucking Zootopia meme anyway.
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