Throwaway05
8d ago
Oh yeah many people here can do this if directly prompted, which is why I made it about people I know in real life. Too many people here will jump in on the discussion (big enough forum and people will get to it) or just say something to score points.
Likewise I'm sure with direct prompting people can do what I ask, but the baseline level on the internet is "Trump will cancel the elections" which is...not great understanding.
Throwaway05
8d ago
In Fate: Zero, there's a scene where three legendary kings get together and share a drink while discussing what it means to be a king.
Anybody interested in this discussion who reads Cultivation Fantasy should 100% read Virtuous Sons.
Throwaway05
8d ago
I mean China is one of the world's most morally bankrupt societies, they lie all the time to everyone (foreign and domestic), they have the most stealing of any country (primarily in the form IP theft), don't really believe in international treaties and society, engage in genocide, oppress their population, clearly want to steal Taiwan (jury is out on how bad they'll be about this) and during a time when we are realizing how much we've fucked the environment they refuse to do anything but worsen the problem.*
What they have (at least superficially, it isn't totally clear) is strength.
That's enough for some people, I'm not sure it is for me.
*I don't think any of these are controversial but please let me know if so.
Throwaway05
8d ago
One argument -
One party is actively claiming to be the party of decorum, empathy, and professionalism.
The dems need to act like the adults they claim to be or stop making claims to that end.
Throwaway05
8d ago
I implore you to consider that not all analysis of Trump's behavior are driven by hatred.
My assertion is that I have yet to really see any anti-Trump writing that acknowledges him as a complete person, pretty much everything I've seen for ten years now has been exaggeration and stereotyping of his worse attributes and behaviors.
A much, much less lower bar ("say anything nice about Trump at all") has never been cleared by anyone I've interacted with in real life and rarely here.
I disagree with your characterization of charisma but more importantly the aforementioned behavior has been well known and noted by neutral and positive coverage since before he jumped into politics.
Either you ignore it because of Trump hatred, or (more likely) you haven't dug into who the guy is a person, which does a much better job of explaining his beliefs and behavior.*
Private knowledge tells me that Obama is a shitty overly permissive parent and that Bush did a bunch of coke when he was younger, but you don't need to be clued in to know that Clinton got up to shitty stuff with women or that Obama is destructively competitive. These are the most important people in the world and the unbiased information about how they actually function is out in the world.
Related: almost zero moderate to low information Democrats I know are aware of Trump's attitude towards drugs and alcohol despite this being an important part of his character, in fact most people assume they are the opposite of the truth.
Throwaway05
8d ago
I implore you to try and model him as a real person as opposed to a stereotyped figure of hatred. He has human moments, motivations.
He is famous for actively soliciting feedback and information from EVERYBODY even when it's ill advised and he shouldn't listen, this gets painted as "whoever talked to him last" in the media but their is tremendous value to that.
I know several people who have run into him in his golf clubs and he usually asks what they think about it, actually listens, and appears to provide some consideration if they have something meaningful to say.
He is a person doing a hard job without the background that is usually required to do well.
Does he have character flaws? Everyone who is president does. Some people are worse than others, but:
Don't lose track of the fact that he is a real person and some not some poorly written Saturday morning cartoon.
Throwaway05
8d ago
Politicians as a class of human beings are pretty obviously suffering from high rates of narcissism, even if you think a lot of it is subclinical.
Arrogance isn't narcissism, and the former is likely in part required to be a politician. The latter requires actually understanding the motivations of someone which in most cases is going to require a personal relationship or types of interactions that are incompatible with politics.
You'll note that most people who believe Trump is a narcissist already do not like Trump, and most people who like him don't believe he's a narcissist.
Analysis of this is hopelessly mired by political inclinations and fundamentally low quality news coverage.
It's pretty obvious what Trump is doing with Greenland for instance but you'd never guess that from social media and most mainstream media coverage.
Throwaway05
8d ago
I have two problems with this line of thinking:
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A president wishing to protect their legacy is not a novel insight. Anyone who makes it to the position wants to do that. Being an old man in a second term may magnify this need but most actions taken by most presidents should be assumed to be with the goal in mind.
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Trump isn't really a narcissist. I've grown increasingly uncomfortable with the (thankfully mostly private) way medical and psychological professionals will throw the diagnosis around. He can't really meet the "formal" criteria because of things like "yes he is actually one of the most important people in the world" and a hopelessly obscured life history.
In terms of informal criteria, Trump has been the victim of so many bad faith attacks, lies, insults, slanders, and true criticisms that if he was at all vulnerable to narcissistic injury he would have gone away or broken down long ago.
Narcissism is superficially described by arrogance but is better described by insecurity. The first hand accounts of Trump I know do describe an amount of insecurity, but certainly not to an excess.
His ability to function makes an NPD diagnosis unlikely, furthermore his ability to attack and frustrate his opponents indicates a sufficient theory of mind to make NPD unlikely.
As a additional matter:
People who know Trump very well will state that while he may be conceited, he legitimately is interested in doing what is best for the American people, especially if it improves his legacy. He just does it in a chaotic way because he is not a politician and does not have an expert level intellectual background in the things he is working on.
Throwaway05
9d ago
Once you get something down you realize you have some new bizarre shit to memorize. It is endless.
Throwaway05
10d ago
just going to drop into this to note that hypnotism is a real thing with an actual evidence base, at the same time it doesn't really work like people think it does.
Throwaway05
10d ago
ECGs. Fucking ECGs. I get good at understanding them when I absolutely have to (before exams), but guess what, by the time the next one rolls around, it's all out of my head.
I am in this comment and I do not like it.
Throwaway05
11d ago
I imagine the issue is that we (physicians) have a tendency to write with certain tics, these not seeming like normal writing to most people.
Since you've AI'ed a bunch already I imagine others are going to see that and make assumptions?
Throwaway05
12d ago
Not 100% sure on that since the source was a reddit comment but a cursory google makes it seem to be the case.
Throwaway05
12d ago
Clair Obscur had a prestigious award revoked after the game turned out to have a handful of temporary assets that were AIgen left i
My understanding is that this was not actually a prestigious award and may in fact have been done for publicity.
Throwaway05
13d ago
This is more of a stereotypical lib left answer than my own but it keeps people away from drugs and homelessness and being super foul tempered.
Throwaway05
13d ago
bronchitis
Lots of people got absolutely obliterated this year, it isn't just you!
...hope that helps?
Throwaway05
13d ago
I apologize if I missed something here, it's been a long day at work.
You are making two mistakes I think.
The first thing to note is that the vast majority of restraint encounters are in the ED with mostly undifferentiated agitation. That almost always ends up being drugs or medical illness.
Patients who end up in a psychiatric unit, well the vast majority of restraints are for violence towards others not the self.
If you are a reader here and you've been in a psych unit it's probably been for suicidal ideation and it was probably in a cushy unit. The majority of inpatient psych work involves violent criminals, drug users, and the severely mentally ill (ex: schizophrenia, bipolar) - not depression.
An untreated manic episode prior to modern medical care had a 20-25 percent fatality rate due to getting themselves killed in one way or another.
Even if we gave up on the suicidal it really wouldn't solve the problem.
Protecting other people from the crazy and foul tempered is important.
Throwaway05
13d ago
I would really like to talk to a non-woke doctor from say Germany about how that stuff goes.
I'd suspect that this side of things wouldn't be as bad as you think since shit hole countries may have a tendency to just kill or lock away forever patients with serious mental illness or drug use.
Baseline criminality and poor understanding of Western cultural norms is more of a traditional police problem and dodges (some of) these tensions.
Throwaway05
13d ago
From what I've heard the U.S. patient population is much more dangerous and violent than in other countries, in a variety of settings.
Doctors in other countries seem to pat themselves on the back for not really using restraints but it ain't for the reason they think it is.
Drugs use is probably a large part of this. So is safety social net.
Throwaway05
13d ago
Oh no, released from police custody and does it? Def a Tuesday in the U.S.
Hospitals? Much rarer (in part because suing is an option).
Throwaway05
14d ago
This was an interesting exercise, actually kinda blows my mind.
Throwaway05
14d ago
People generally resist, because you wouldn't be restraining them unless you had to and you have to because they accidentally or intentionally want to do something dangerous, so they resist.
Restraining someone who is resisting involves them attempting to attack you, and you essentially attacking them. It is not safe. It is violent. It is dangerous.
People who do not have experience with these things can easily go "oh well it's a magic controlled situation" and underestimate how brutal it often is, which is one of the reasons I wrote this up.
Policing for similar reasons is inherently violent. The threshold for someone to resist the police is higher because of life long training to be scared of the police but people who do it present a threat to themselves, bystanders, the police.
And the left is training people to resist, violently or in a way that isn't distinguishable from violence in the moment.
That's why this woman died.
She didn't realize just how dangerous what she was doing was.
Throwaway05
14d ago
It's how our individual rights based system works. I'm usually okay with it but the problem is that many people have bought the progressive frame and never transition to actually managing the issue.
Throwaway05
14d ago
This means something very specific in a medical context, yes people can have personality problems in the sense that you mean outside of healthcare and end up in prison, but we have a specific suite of diagnostic identities called "personality disorders" (the most famous are probably: anti-social, borderline, and narcissistic) that represents a pattern of maladaptive personality features with a somewhat known cause that don't respond to medication and barely response to non-medical interventions like therapy.
Patients with these disease processes sometimes end up in a psychiatric hospital because of behaviors that are dangerous (towards themselves or others), but the purpose of a psychiatric hospital is to begin the acute stabilization process, if someone can't be helped by a psychiatric hospital and engages the in dangerous and illegal behavior than the correct location for them is prison, while in prison someone can try and treat comorbidities and begin loooooooooongitudinal therapy.
I picked one person from each side of the aisle to make it clear it wasn't partisan, and your approach seems more "gotcha" oriented than anything, between that and a hidden profile I think I'm going to exit this one.
Cheers!
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