TitaniumButterfly
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TitaniumButterfly
9d ago
I interpreted it as an ironic joke, along the lines of 'billions must die'. Just casually throwing that in at the end.
TitaniumButterfly
11d ago
I've wondered for a while whether bin Laden realized the sheer magnitude of his own success. From what I can tell he didn't talk about it much.
TitaniumButterfly
13d ago
I seriously looked into opening a daycare center a couple years ago because my area was obviously chronically underserved, and found that workforce was in fact the main bottleneck. Finding people to do that sort of job for less than $35/hr is apparently impossible. Talked to a couple people who have made it work and they said the secret was to hire friends or people from church.
In-home daycares are also unbelievably scarce despite the much lower (still ridiculous) barrier to entry.
Nannies are likewise at least $30/hr.
People simply don't want to do the work.
What has that to do with anything? They couldn't measure IQ. We can. This isn't a matter of opinion.
TitaniumButterfly
14d ago
What could you say about India today that you couldn't about those countries then that suggests India couldn't achieve similar?
Poor genetic intelligence, obviously.
you're beyond well integrated, you're self-hating
I think this is incorrect, incredibly-rude, and uncalled for.
almost none of us care about "mixed-race" grandkids
Because we live in a shockingly-ignorant era downstream of generations of constant indoctrination ensuring we're incapable of comprehending the existence of the foreigner. One of my favorite things about non-whites is that they tend to not be laboring under any illusions when it comes to how different we all actually are from each other.
think that well integrated immigrants ... water down our culture and social cohesion
"Well-integrated" is doing so much work here as to make this tautological.
TitaniumButterfly
15d ago
Yes, I was a lot younger and not yet so aware of how out of hand the situation had gotten in general.
EDIT:
probably indicative of other trad religious leanings they might disapprove of
Also, yes.
TitaniumButterfly
15d ago
Someone made an offhand comment about how 'old-fashioned' it was (in general, and pejoratively) and I disagreed and it went from there.
TitaniumButterfly
15d ago
This is the situation as I understand it, yes.
TitaniumButterfly
15d ago
I was astonished when my fiancee's family got indignant and saw it as a red flag that we were waiting until marriage to have sex.
I can't imagine that this is possibly the case, though I have no trouble believing that it's often insisted upon and that a lot of work has gone into plausibly maintaining the position.
E.g., SSAs are known to be more self-confident (i.e. lower neuroticism) cross-culturally, and inasmuch as 'openness' is at least partly a proxy for intelligence...
TitaniumButterfly
17d ago
Your insistence on completely failing to grasp the point is growing disheartening.
TitaniumButterfly
17d ago
Wow!
what the hell is this post?
Indeed. That really came out of nowhere. A bit too much brandy in the nog is my guess.
TitaniumButterfly
17d ago
For me the cool part was that I'm not on twitter much and it seemed eminently plausible that the discourse there has actually already been captured by toxoplasmic AIs. Can't be long now, anyway.
TitaniumButterfly
17d ago
TitaniumButterfly
17d ago
This conversation doesn't seem to be helping so I'll thank you for it and duck out. But I think the word 'closer' is doing you more harm than good. I've already been very clear that I'm talking about amount of shared alleles. Actually, hold on- here, @Sloot just illustrated the matter in a way that might help.
Anyway, have a lovely whatever it is wherever you are.
TitaniumButterfly
17d ago
The data on whether mixed race people outperform the average of their ethnic ancestry should be pretty simple to come by.
If you click that link in my post (the one to which you're responding here) you'll get some insight into how not-simple that is, actually. Mixed-race people are almost definitionally born to outlier parents, e.g.
TitaniumButterfly
17d ago
Thanks. I didn't feel like bothering with that. This stuff is super interesting to me and I'm very sure of what I'm saying but it really does seem to upset people and then they want to argue and no matter what it never seems to be enough, which leaves me wondering what their hangup is in the first place.
TitaniumButterfly
17d ago
Yes, and if he wanted to maintain the pretense he might also elaborate that he has another on the way and was tired enough that he wanted to make sure he wasn't double-counting her. As I said, take it or leave it.
TitaniumButterfly
17d ago
No, it results in a child that is closer to both parents genetically than other other random child on Earth is.
You're simply mistaken about this. Actually you're so mistaken that I'm not even sure how deep the problem goes. Probably some sort of thought experiment would help but it's morning chaos hour in my house and constructing one that covers all the contingencies would be a real chore.
It might be instructive to think about how closely-related brothers are compared to each other and their children.
EDIT: Oh! And because it's specifically relevant do note that kids aren't 'half' each parent, but can swing as far out as about 2/3 one and 1/3 the other, though in most cases yeah it's generally close to half and half.
TitaniumButterfly
17d ago
Well I did say all else being equal. The reason inbreeding is a problem is the propensity to double up on deleterious mutations, but hypothetically if those weren't a factor it'd be just fine and probably even preferable in many ways.
I don't think so. I think of all the anecdotes I've heard of male med students who can't get a date to save their lives until they get the magic title, at which point they're swimming in desirable potential mates. I've observed this same (general) phenomenon in the lives of those around me with those successful in business, etc.
The reality is that power and status are attractive to women in a way that they are not to men. The 'suit' in the line I quoted points to this, but so does the 'treats them like shit'. That sort of behavior is and always has been a strong signal of reproductive fitness, since it indicates both that 1) the other men in the society are willing to put up with it, ergo the guy acting that way must be very near the top of the hierarchy and 2) the guy knows he can treat women that way because for such as him they're not the gatekeepers any more; he is.
Yes, good looks do matter, but so often correlate with the behavior I'm describing here.
My model indicates that a woman would rather marry a good-looking man who treats her well -- but she gets a lot hotter thinking about the good-looking man who treats her poorly. The one who treats her well is, sadly, sending a signal that he's grateful to have her, which indicates that she could probably have done better.
Seems more like a bitter divorcee statement than something based in reality
FWIW, and you can take this or leave it, but I'm attractive, successful, happily married to the woman of my dreams (whom I treat very well), and have enough children that I had to stop a moment to double-check the number in my head.
TitaniumButterfly
17d ago
Having been to both places, Ugandan women are not obviously more feminine than women from Chengdu.
I qualified that by stating exactly the sort of thing I was talking about. Women from Chengdu will, on average, be more gracile, have more-feminine hormone balances, and be less-prone to physical aggression than women from Uganda. These are observable truths.
Well, except that a paternity test would instantly identify the mixed-raced biological child as his own and not the random French kid. So no, the random child is not "genetically" closer to him. The other child - his actual child - is literally half of him.
I don't think you understand what is being discussed here or how these things work, and I'm not trying to dismiss you by saying so, but I also don't really know where to begin to correct the misapprehension. I'm talking here about shared alleles and especially those related to cognition and phenomenology. And yes, mating with a genetically-distant partner results in a child which is less like either parent in those respects, whereas closely-related children of the same population will have more overlap than the child with either genetically-distant parent. I.e. they will experience the world more similarly than the actual direct offspring.
People often get weird when I talk about this but it's never clear to me whether they object to what I'm saying on some 'ought' level or if they just don't understand the concept.
You're overstating the matter but yes, the truth lies in that basic direction.
I'll relay a similar overstatement I heard somewhere else: Men are attracted to youth and beauty; women are attracted to anything that wears a suit and treats them like shit.
Not entirely sure what to make of that but I do think about it from time to time.
Okinawans are not ethnically Japanese. Different people, history, culture, language, phenotypes. Conquered fairly recently.
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