cjet79
Anarcho Capitalist on moral grounds
Libertarian Minarchist on economic grounds
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cjet79
4d ago
This is always the case in history. The agitators and revolutionaries or whatever you want to call them are not the most shelf-stable individuals.
Sam Adams was a perennial business fuckup. He could barely make money smuggling. Thomas Jefferson was terrible at running a plantation (he was more interested in rewriting the bible). Patrick Henry was a firery lawyer living on daddy's money. Those are just the ones I can think of off the top of my head.
Politics in general is not for people who have their life together. But also many people just routinely don't have their life together all that well. I've been lucky enough to say that my life has never been in shambles. But my father had his life in shambles for what sounds like a ten year stretch when I hear the stories.
As much as the people involved seem like fuckups I think it is still important to have good policy and procedures for handling situations. If only 5% of the population is career criminals and fuckups, the police will be spending most of their time dealing with that population, and they should know how to handle them as best as possible.
I said with the Good shooting that I don't think there was a policy that would have prevented her shooting. With the Pretti shooting I'm not so sure. I haven't watched the videos and evidence enough to be certain, but I feel like it was a communication failure on the part of the officers that led to the shooting. You'll see police officers sometimes calling out the situation to other officers as they restrain an individual, or giving commands to the individual that let other officers know where in the process of the arrest/restraining they are at. You'll also see police officers only have two or three officers close to a person they are restraining, and additional officers will stand back and keep other people at bay. But also keep an eye on the situation. I think either of these tactics employed with Pretti might have prevented him from being shot. Either they would have known he was restrained, or the officers standing back would have seen that he had not pulled a gun. Bad training on the part of the ICE agents involved, but I get that is not really their specialty area. So some of the responsibility loops back around to "why are they not getting backup from local law enforcement that does know how to handle these people".
I feel the need to be against any kind of policy that just casually wastes the lives of people who are fuckups. I owe my existence to someone who was a temporary fuckup. People can improve their lives. They can have kids that are better than them, etc.
cjet79
5d ago
Why discontinue an actively working service?
I ask this and I know the answer, but it still frustrates me.
Amazon just sent me a message that their "palm" services will stop working in June. It is just a palm scan print. Why is this hard to maintain?
Facebook portal used to be a go to easy video chat service and have other things that easily tied in like Spotify. They've discontinued it and Spotify is no longer a supported app. I dont even know how much longer the video chat portion will even work.
I'm looking for video replacement options if anyone knows of any good ones. The stuff I see on search is ass. Some of the senior service crap is more than the price of a cheap laptop for basically a webcam service.
cjet79
6d ago
Alright let's chart this out.
Action A: hurts blue state, restricts immigration.
Action B: hurts red state, restricts immigration.
I think OPs point is that the protestors are against "hurts blue state" not against "restrict immigration", because they would protest action A but not action B.
It's hard to call them on this though because Trump is only taking action A. Which makes his claim of 'this is only about restricting immigration' seem dubious. If that was true why wouldn't he take action A and B? People here in favor of immigration restrictions, like yourself, seem happy to have both actions.
My personal take is that this is standard politics for most people (including Trump): benefit your allies and hurt your enemies. And try to prevent your enemies from doing things that benefit themselves or hurt you.
For a smaller minority of people it's actually about the policy. You are probably in that minority. Some protestors are also plausibly in that minority.
Since neither side is a monolith, claims of "their side is just playing politics" are likely mostly accurate. And probably 99% of politicians, including Trump are also just playing politics and don't give a shit about the policy.
And protesting some big entity playing politics with your tiny local entity seems justified. Even if you have zero principled stance on the policy in question.
cjet79
6d ago
Typical government, restrict supply, subsidize demand.
This seems like a more honest assessment of why true immigration reform hasn't happened. But it's also the most damning. If our economy is semi reliant on it then not addressing that point is a total cop out.
cjet79
6d ago
I would have thought that about the current enforcement actions. Trump's MO on this seems to be just pass an executive order, and if it gets struck down oh well, the courts move slow.
cjet79
6d ago
Was there anyone on the left pushing the current ICE enforcement actions? No, but it still happened.
I don't understand your model of the world here. Trump can't do a thing cuz the left disapproves, unless it's something he is already doing?
Many of his current immigration enforcement actions might end up getting considered illegal. That didn't stop him.
It's freaky as hell. Either they are creepy as hell simulacrums of humans that have leaped over the uncanny valley. Or we just asked them to build skynet.
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