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2yr ago
The Islamic world immediately erupted into a civil war after the death of Muhammad, and there were three more “fitnas” (civil war) over the next 120 years.
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2yr ago
In Muslim societies it mainly just benefitted the upper class, who has the funds to have more wives. Because early Islam had a loose class system based on progeny of Muhammad, this just guaranteed Muhammad’s children had more children etc
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2yr ago
The market has historically relied on supply and demand, not will. Are you saying you want the Gov to make commie blocks for everyone? Why not just stop the replacement migration?
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2yr ago
Another solution is to just increase in-group bonding and sympathy production while controlling your daughters’ media consumption as a community. This is accomplished through heightened emotional events, stories, daily / weekly habits, social ties, and victim complex development. I sort of get tired of using them as an example but there really is none better for wide applications: Hasidic women are not concerned about any of the issues you brought up, because are inculcated with in-group preference due to manifold social technologies. They vote according to what the male leaders tell them to vote for, by and large, as well.
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2yr ago
This is an argument that no one would ever use if Bud Light gave a commemorative can to Adolf Hitler or Russia’s invasion force of 2022. It’s disingenuous. A commemorative can is commemorative — it is in the name — it is clearly spelling out for all to see the values of Bud Light and (one could presume) their executives. Why would you support a company that commemorates, honors, celebrates, and supports something that you perceive as harmful to you and your interests?
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2yr ago
You can’t build enough housing when you import a million or so illegal immigrants every few years not counting foreign visa holders. Every country that has this “replacement” level immigration naturally runs out of housing
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2yr ago
Fun belated Eastertime thought. I’ve been musing over the idea of Christianity causing human domestication in Europe. It strikes me that to get anything out of the Christian ritual, you need (1) obedience to believe what the religion says, (2) empathy and guilt that your sins led to the pain and death of Jesus, and (3) gratitude and love that Jesus took your place on the Cross. As everyone was forced to believe this for so long, those who were the most obedient / domesticated would be getting the most positive emotion from the ritual. The ritual also ensures that the most obedient have the most repentance of sins, which promotes more prosocial behavior. So the Christian ritual itself would have led to some non-negligible increase in gene proliferation among domesticated Europeans. This doesn’t even factor for the effect of a widespread “Jesus” and “Mary” ideal that would influence male and female hierarchies and dating behavior.
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2yr ago
Yeah it seems like this video drew the ire of the entire YT LGBT community on Twitter too. Now you have every major streamer talking about it (XQC, Ludwig). This pretty much seals the deal for Mr Beast keeping Chris on board.
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2yr ago
Idk if I hit the wrong button at one point but how do I get my notification screen to only show the most recent comment below only one parent comment (or none) on mobile? It’s a pain to go through a whole multilevel thread to see which comment is newest
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2yr ago
The original NYT, JapanTimes and Greyzone reporting show the Ukrainian casualty figure as 70k and the Russian as 17k. I’m more tempted to believe this happened and then the West retconned the numbers, as opposed to Russia frantically and successfully retconning the numbers and tricking the original journalists.
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2yr ago
Ultimately I find this innocuous, as it has no impact on how historians see Egypt (yet). But it will be interesting to see if this documentary leads to any historian or anthropologist speaking out as they did for Graham Hancock’s innocuous (and possibly more evidence-filled) documentary series.
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2yr ago
This is not something you have argued in any capacity, you are simply asserting it
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2yr ago
On the day specified, probably everyone who follows and engaged with Mr Beast content on Tik Tok saw those videos. It’s not “passionate anti-trans community boosts message to the top”, far from it. The videos were tagged Chris and Mr Beast, they showed the “characters”, that’s what rose to the top for the entire MB community and is the most important thing they wanted to Tok about. The median Mr Beast fan must have engaged with it and liked it to some degree. Per your example, if something happened to a Hindu in India, pro-Hindu content would flood to the top of the tag “Hindu” and overpower any anti-Hindu sentiments. You might still see anti-Hindu content somewhere, but not at the top, somewhere lower.
YouGov is inferior for an obvious reason. YouGov puts their “ads” on random websites and expects people to answer the poll. This select for, how do I put this, very dumb obedient people. It also selects for a decidedly non-median zoomer, because Zoomers don’t spend time wiggling around on websites, they spend their time on platforms. They use Tik Tok as their version of Google, for instance. And frankly, what weirdo would answer polling questions on a random website from a sidebar ad or pop up? Pew Polling similarly skews the results, because Zoomers don’t answer random phone calls, mail in surveys, or emails.
Tik Tok is the default place they hang out online, they self-select their interests, and they vote their interests to the top. Unlike a Reddit, being “early” on voting has no effect. So after a day, you get polling from all the Zoomers who opened Tik Tok that day and self-selected for Mr Beast. The videos must have been liked and high engagement to rise to the top of that tag. Even better, it’s anonymous.
I would argue that, for convoluted reasons, YouGov and Pew polling is going to select for people who have the time and desire to express their views on social issues, which is going to lean Left. Maybe this is not true though. Mr Beast’s Tik Tok demographic is probably more 12-18 than 18-24 though.
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2yr ago
In my case, for my screenshots, I made a (new) account and sorted by Top for Today in the settings. This is an unbiased sorting of videos by keyword according to Likes and Dates. As for, “how did these videos become so liked in the first place”, the algorithm is quite good at showing people what they want to watch; the likes and agreeing comments would invalidate the possibility that these are just being watched for “outrage porn” reasons.
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2yr ago
That’s a possibility, though the comments are in English and India (his second largest country by views) has banned Tik Tok. After India his biggest fan base is in UK and Canada, so the top three for fan base on Tik Tok is anglosphere. Maybe it’s trivial for Indians to bypass the ban though, I have no idea.
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2yr ago
Most of the people clipping it are posting it on Tik Tok, but some examples I can find on YouTube: 1, 2. If you watch the video you notice a weird distance between the members and a stressful look on MB’s face, which viewers picked up on and discuss on Tik Tok.
No, but that many teenage boys are in all-male friend groups. Adding in a girl or an MTF to an all-male friend group changes the dynamic.
MB is YouTube’s prized real estate, I would not be surprised if YouTube corporate is deleting comments, and they also delete and reduce the popularity of YouTubers who are critical of LGBT issues.
Mr Beast’s Trans Debacle
Mr Beast is the Gen Z entertainment celebrity of note. Calling Mr Beast the PewDiePie of Gen Z would be underselling him. His 25-minute Squid Game YouTube video received 400 million views, which to put in perspective is 5x the total viewership of the Seinfeld Finale. His Tik Tok has 80 million followers, his most popular “YouTube short” has 650 million views, etc. He is more popular than what the average millennial or older would think (I fall into this cohort). When he visited a mall in my state to sell his burgers (one of his successful business offshoots), the line extended miles and made the news. Mr Beast has a childhood friend group with whom he makes videos. The rapport between the friends of the group, what might be called the “vibe”, is a crucial ingredient to Mr Beast’s success. They were, like many friend groups containing boys in America[*], all male; the pure boyishness was a major draw for his success.
This year, one of the “cast” members of the Mr Beast enterprise transitioned into a woman. (For brevity, I will just call the member she and a woman.) Chris, who had a child and went through a divorce, has transitioned in full. She is wearing dresses on video and taking HRT. If you were to plug Chris and Mr Beast into Google News, you would have no idea how the viewers have responded to this change. But plugging it into Tik Tok (the premiere Zoomer app) gives a different story.
The response among Gen Z has been overwhelmingly negative. When I checked last night, 8 of the 10 most watched videos for the search “Mr Beast” were a negative reaction to Chris’s transition, the total view count of which was more than 80 million. The comments overwhelmingly negative. A typical comment section looked like this, sometimes with more than 25k comments. The commenters chant “Mr Beast 6000 coming out”, referencing Mr Beast’s oldest YouTube channel known for political incorrect humor. The consensus among the fans is that the transition has ruined the group’s rapport and that Chris has got to go, but that hands are tied because she is transgender. On the latest (secondary channel) video for Mr Beast, the comment section is censored and moderated so that the issue can’t explicitly come up. The commenters instead spam “we want to see more Chandler and Nolan”, cleverly emphasizing their disinterest with Chris by omission. The fans on Tik Tok are trying to find any clip they can to get Chris cancelled, with one finding a video of him saying the N word and another digging up an anti-Islam tweet from 2017.
There are a few things to explore here.
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Tik Tok is the last remaining “Wild West” internet platform. Low censorship, low “authority-boosts”, and high anonymity allow for majority discourse like in the old days. It would be hard to gauge the fan reaction without looking at Tik Tok, which (conveniently) is the app that most of his fans use for socializing and discussion. This illuminates how manipulated platforms like YouTube and Twitter are, both because of censorship and because of cancellation fears.
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The younger generation appears to be immunized against the transgender movement. The boys do not buy it. Mr Beast is a litmus test because he has a large, diverse fan base in Gen Z, the majority of whom use Tik Tok and have Mr Beast content algorithmically fed to them. These Tik Toks are as close as we will get to a “youth vote” on the transgender issue. They not only don’t buy it, but they think it is immoral and noxious.
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Mr Beast is in a pickle. He became popular, partially, because of the authenticity and joy of his friend group. The discomfort involving the transition is palpable in the latest video. Body language, rapport, banter, and general “vibes” have ruined what led children to watch his content. He is the most data driven creator and knows this. He has previously mentioned that he edits out sneezes and coughs because it loses retention, and I believe once mentioned that adding a girl to reaction videos negatively reduces engagement. Alas, he can’t come out and fire the transitioned member without losing corporate sponsorship and reputation. He is stuck between losing popularity among his fans, or losing support among the progressive power structure. He is also losing support from parents who don’t want their 8-year-old watching a transgender. There’s also the moral issue of supporting a friend post-divorce.
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2yr ago
Which cartoon do you have in mind whose plot is about taking a poop (versus a poop joke)?
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2yr ago
To be more specific, that there is a placebo effect for all pills, and pills considered efficacious have the largest placebo effect, so the efficacy of adderall in aided by the placebo effect.
This placebo effect is increased also because of the intentionality imbued in the object. You go to the socially prescribed expert/authority on disease because you can’t study well and he tells you that this will cure your issues. He tells you the name of the drug, maybe gives you a pamphlet, and then you pick it up. You take it with the intentionality that this cures your issues, while remembering the problem for which you requested help.
So cutting into the placebo effect will hurt. Patients are no longer thinking “this is the cure for my inattention”, but “this is an unreliable thing they may not be effective” — you’re now looking for evidence that it is ineffective rather than evidence of desired changes
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2yr ago
As Adderall is in some degree effective because of the placebo effect, the meme that the pill’s potency has been artificially reduced by the government does a lot of damage just by being a meme existing. Almost something I would do if I were the psy-op division of another country. “Our foreign enemies are artificially reducing the potency of our placebo’s effects potency with claims of non-placebo substance impotency”, I would tweet.
I stand by my opinion once commented here that saffron is a viable and superior alternative to ADHD medication, while smelling better and adding a greater flavor to paella than the leading ADHD medication brands.
(Whoever came up with adderall must have gotten a huge bonus. Starts with ADD, ends in all implying comprehensive benefit, and sounds like what your rural mom complains about to the doctor: “my boy just can’t add ‘er all up in the math classes like those Chinese kids”.)
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2yr ago
Saw my grandparents, who complained about the flamboyant organist in her church.
Listened to three pieces from Bach’s St Matthews Passion probably 30 times a piece in the week leading up to Easter. There is no greater Easter music or summation of the meaning of Easter which is the kernel of Christianity, really. My favorite two of the three:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=RnkSFKJ4rC0
behold!—Whom?—the Bridegroom!
Behold him!—how?—As a Lamb.
Behold!—what?—behold the patience, look!—where?—at our guilt.
See him, out of love and graciousness bear the wood for the Cross Himself. O innocent Lamb of God, slaughtered on the trunk of the Cross, patient at all times, however you were scorned. You have borne all sins, otherwise we would have to despair.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=pKc00BHvaas
Make thyself clean, my heart, I will myself entomb Jesus. For he shall henceforth in me For ever and ever
Take his sweet rest. World, begone, let Jesus in.
The whole text of the Passion is a great beginner’s guide to, well, the Passion. Because it’s a combination of the original text, explanatory notes (the recitative), and then the intended affective and transcendent dimension (arias): https://gbt.org/music/St_Matthew_text.pdf
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2yr ago
There’s no reason to glorify it or celebrate it in popular media, and is something mothers teach their daughters about. For this same reason, we don’t have cartoons about people taking a shit on the toilet. I imagine once we have such a cartoon of lauding someone dropping a load, some will be out cheering about the destruction of another taboo. It’s a gross facet of the human body, hence why it can only be represented implicitly.
The more interesting question is what the Disney psychologists are trying to engineer when they portrayal the development of sexuality. What kind of relationships are they promoting, what kind of love interests, is this “equitable” etc? Because you can engineer someone to develop a preference or fetish based on what shows you shill them when they are young. But I haven’t watched Turning Red so I can’t dive into that. But I wonder, if most fathers knew that their daughter’s media exposure in youth informs their preferences when they are older, whether they would not take greater control over media exposure.
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2yr ago
I think this is stretching relativism a little too much. A person who prefers listening to a low quality version of a song over a high quality version is someone who is odd, or interested in it for non-musical reasons like nostalgia. The vast majority of people prefer high fidelity music (that they can perceive). Sites like YouTube and phones like the iPhone make the default audio card high quality because so many people enjoy this. Similarly, only a very rare person enjoys watching videos on 480p, or collecting lo-res images.
There really seems to be a clear association between greater sensitivity/detail/perception (whichever word we want to use, they refer to the same cognitive antecedents) and increased enjoyment. Why go see a symphony in person if the experience is not greater? Why bother with greater graphics?
whether or not they get actual greater enjoyment out of it is an open question
Is it really open? What bird song enjoyer would not desire to hear bird songs in maximum fidelity? It’s considered a tragedy when bird song enjoyers have reduced hearing sensitivity
But surely the ancestors of Muhammad were not especially domesticated or obedient if they had bloody infighting in the century that followed Muhammad’s death. This is the problem of privileging a bloodline with polygamy versus a character trait (Christ-like).
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