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2yr ago
Has anyone posted this yet? It’s phenomenal.
Of note is the evidenced theory that SBF was on Parkinson’s dopaminergic drugs which led him to making ridiculous risks and purchases, and other information that can lead one to think the Bankman literally Fried his brains.
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2yr ago
What do you think it would take for a boycott of ADL and all affiliates? Hearing that the ADL is pressuring twitter advertisers, can’t you just boycott any and all ADL donators, backers, all related organizations, and so on?
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2yr ago
My political discussions with young women have been centered on their feelings of moral obligation to an issue of victimhood. This comprises a good 80% of all political discussions. Immigration is simply about what is best for the brown migrants that the media has painted as victims, which young women are now to sympathize with (to the exclusion of the domestic population). This sympathy is definitionally a bias, a form of emotional bigotry that prevents any objective assessment. For immigration it’s what is best for brown migrants, for policing what is best for blacks, for picking a cabinet what is best for women and minority representation. The political messaging that targets young women is like Nazi propaganda films that successfully painted Germans as victims with pure stories, but more potent and all-encompassing. To turn one of these propagated young women into a supporter of less immigration, as an example, you simply need a potent story of some ugly criminal immigrant abusing a beautiful poor disenfranchised Native American or black girl or something, and if that story catches on (and they consume it in the zombified state that they often consume media) then the political transformation is complete. This is my honest view, you are welcome to disagree, a huge chunk of women I know think entirely in terms of social sympathy for victims, and some men do too.
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2yr ago
Northeastern USA it’s common to hear people refer to their dogs as rescues in my experience
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2yr ago
I 100% agree with you. “Globalism EA” is a reneging on the community that created you. Someone like SBF was the recipient of untold Western privileges, paid for by the blood and sweat of untold Westerners, many of whose children are struggling. To take up all of these privileges (which amount to subsidies) and then throwing a majority of the money at net Africans is wasteful and immoral. It’s trying to live with no communal responsibilities, as if the capitalist rules in place are the only that matter. It also betrays a misunderstanding of the recursion of morality. You want to invest your morality in a way that doesn’t just do some “one time good”, like with net Africans, but that compounds over time. Net Africans will never pay your good deed forward, at least I do not think so; compare that to when Native Americans donated cattle to Ireland in their famine, and 170 years later Ireland returns the favor and sends aid to tribes dealing with COVID. This sort of cross national charity is possible with sophisticated states, but not with net Africans.
Also, regarding net Africans, if you told me that one thousand of them have died today, I would not be affected. One hundred thousand, it would not affect my life at all. One million, no. If you told me ten trillion Africans died from an absence of malaria nets, I would be greatly puzzled how so many Africans could fit in Africa, but again it would not affect my life in the slightest, or the life of anyone I love, or my loved ones’ loved ones, or my entire civilizational history, or anything I care about. In this sense they are simply “not real” from any moral standpoint. Some amount of money should be spent on civilizing Africans, sure, so they can make their own nets and such, but i’m cognizant that others tried to do that and got fucked over for it.
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2yr ago
The most popular black rapper and one of the most popular black basketball players both published anti-semitism, and then were defended by the most popular black comedian. Kyrie was also halfways defended by LeBron. At a certain point, skepticism of noticing patterns is just hiding your head in the sand.
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2yr ago
That’s very nice for Alex to donate a kidney and only get a NYT Op Ed in return, especially when his livelihood is literally the occupation of working for charities and guiding health policy. In Alex’s case, the right choice was also the one that benefitted him the most financially and socially. Now, I do think that society should be organized such that the right action is the one that benefits us tangibly. And Alex did do a good thing. But most of our moral dilemmas occur in the valleys and shadows where the moral light doesn’t shine. To use a passage from the Gospel,
when you give to the needy, sound no trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be praised by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you.
The “salience” of religion is intended to be so strong that you do works for your God, who is so close as to be a Father. The problem with doing works with an eye on social reinforcement is that when the reinforcement is omitted, the behavior may not occur. This social reward is the “left” hand, in near east tradition the one used for dirty activities, with the right hand kept for pure activities.
[drowning child] claim this "lacks emotional salience"?
If EA were a compendium of moral dilemmas, questions, stories, and imagined experiences, it would not lack emotional salience. And yet it is not such a compendium. One example made does not make the movement based on emotional salience. Perhaps if the drowning child were made into a statue and you attended a service every week to sing songs about the loss of the transcendent drowning child submerged in the waters of chaos, then that would surely count as salient. But, EA is about logical analysis, not pulled heartstrings.
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2yr ago
Does the Sam Bankman-Fried transformation into Bankrupt Fraud tell us something about the failures of effective altruism?
I saw Bankman mentioned on themotte a number of times over the past two years. I’m pretty sure he was mentioned over on SSC, too. After Scott, he was the person who immediately came to mind when I thought of figures associated with EA. Many normies and finance types will only think of Bankman when EA is brought up. (I refuse to use the “SBF” acronym because it was consciously chosen as imitation of HSBC and other institutions, and despite his name the man is not a bank.)
I think the EA’s failure to have any effective impact on Bankman’s moral calculus is its complete absence of emotional salience. Traditional moral systems usually try to maximize moral salience. (Stoicism was short-lived and immersed in a Hellenistic culture that emphasized honor through salient stories, and while “mindfulness” is emotional neutral, traditional Buddhism emphasizes benevolence through stories.)
Consider Christianity. Its stories are designed for emotional salience, using novelty/paradox/shock in key moments to illustrate the moral point. Mankind’s Hero was born in a manger to a lowly family, faced persecution from the very people who claimed moral superiority, took on followers who were poor and irrelevant, and died the death of a painful criminal for the purpose of saving all of humanity. The paradoxes and surprises are meant to enhance the emotional experience, and thus the effect, of the moral point. Within the Gospel narrative, we have parables, also emphasizing salience. You have the wealthy and high status patrician who looks down on his lower class sinful neighbor, and the latter is announced as just and not the former. We have metaphors involving specks in the eye, wheat cultivation, farm animals, and storing grain, all of which would be immediately understood by the target audience. The parable form itself can be construed as the most expedient way of expressing a moral point to the largest possible audience.
While Effective Altruism may be logically sound, in the sense that the optimal actions are clearly delineated and argued, it may also not be very effective in obtaining an end result. There is an ocean of difference between a logical assessment of morality and the effectively-felt transformation of an individual into a moral actor who follows the moral commandments. To walk over this ocean of difference or to part its waters requires a moral system (if not a religion, close to it) that is focused on making morality felt. Otherwise, as in the case of Bankman-Fried, our passions and our greeds prevent us from following through on what we ought. This conflict over Ought and Will is, of course, explored throughout the New Testament, with the inability to perfectly follow moral commandments (the law) being solved in the Person of Christ, who makes morality possible to follow through his being born (a human) and through his friendship (fellowship), which effects the salience necessary to turn the follower moral.
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2yr ago
My personal copium is that Russia is focused on debilitating Ukraine’s economy, then killing their troops at a higher rate than they kill Russian troops, while implementing cheap drones in combat. This is the most cost effective way to win the war. Russia has to pay for a few hundred thousand troops next door, while NATO has to pay for all of Ukraine’s military plus some significant part of twenty million citizens still in Ukraine. Russia gets to knock the electricity in Kyiv and elsewhere to prevent a semblance of a modern economy, and harass in other costly ways. For every dollar Russia spends, NATO will have to pay 10 to 30. The limiting factor of Ukraine is the economy and men. In this sense it’s in Russia’s interests to make Ukraine disperse their soldiers across the whole territory.
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2yr ago
You don’t seem to have an understanding of how the university employs students.
She was working at desk check in. It’s the same occupation as RA. If she described it as working security that’s fine, I see no indication that she is a security guard or otherwise empowered to detain residents for not having a card.
“It is a part of our job (as desk clerk) that if we see a student that’s, like, very drunk, we are to call an RA to … write up a report,” Spring said.
She’s not even an RA. She’s a desk clerk, and Rosing can plausibly sue her for kidnapping or something else, because it is illegal to forcefully prevent a person and grabbing their wrists for such non-felonies
https://kykernel.com/89062/news/videos-show-uk-student-using-racial-slurs-attacking-desk-clerk/
If you lived in an apartment complex, I assure you that a random clerk assigned to the building does not have the right forcefully prevent you from attending to your accommodation. They can escalate with the police, at maximum.
I’m not interested in the statement of the RA (you link the article like it’s authoritative, when it never is), who is seen physically apprehending an inebriated student, unless her actions are already defensible from the security cam. When I lived in a public university accommodation, RA’s would never physically restrain an inebriated student because they forgot their ID. If they were going to escalate the issue they would call security. If this were some gang member or a 45 year old man entering a woman’s dorm that would be extenuating circumstances.
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2yr ago
The video begins (0:45 seconds long, is there a longer one?) with the black woman grabbing the white woman by the wrists, and at 0:03 reaching toward her face, which begins the brawl. I see below mentioned that the white woman was “too inebriated” upon entering the dorm, but anyone who has lived on a dorm in a public university knows that there is no level of inebriation that prevents a student from dorm entry short of violently vomiting in the fetal position. I doubt that the university terms allows the black woman to forcefully kidnap students who she believes are “too inebriated” to return back to their home. As such, calling her a slur is entirely within the realm of a normal response, although it’s totally rude and you shouldn’t do it.
If my understanding is right this would be the second misleading racism video to involve kidnapping. Remember the white woman walking a dog whose life was destroyed? The black man actually aggressively harassed her and (by his own confession on his Facebook page) said he would “do something you don’t want me to do to your dog” if it didn’t get leashed.
Those communities are often first or second generation, though. Little Italy is effectively dead, as are the Irish diaspora communities, and the only Jews who retain their culture have organized themselves as a micro-nation (the Hasids you mention). As your evidence for the patchwork of liberalism, you are looking at the insular communities that are recent arrivals to America, which have yet to be filtered by liberalism. But look elsewhere in America, at the 3rd generations, whether Germans in the Midwest or Chinese in California, and there’s no such patchwork to be found. It’s all some pesticide-ridden GMO monoculture crop, planted and picked and served at a corporation.
I don’t think liberalism allows people to pick the best ideas, for many reason: an adolescent does not pick anything, they are stupid and subject to cultural trends; the theory that an individual generally picks the best ideas is not evidenced from anything, and most societies had a specially-chosen group focus on picking the best ideas for everyone (for good reason); the culture that people will cling to is the one that is most pervasive, flashy, and marketed well, just like how they often pick products; Americans are ground down by stressors and obligations that they hardly have time to deliberately pick something as complex as their own culture, let alone assess the competing value schemes which requires understanding moral philosophy and psychology.
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2yr ago
Is there an element of truth to this idea that Roman history is partially an invention of Italian humanists? Have the originals discovered by early renaissance humanists ever been carbon dated?
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2yr ago
If you’re watching it to relax and unwind, then it’s good. If you’re watching it to inform your worldview, or to regress, or to avoid responsibilities, it’s bad.
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2yr ago
India was not so unified for a single composer to be well known across the region, with compositions proliferated from one end to the other. Without monotheism, you did not have one monk travel from one end to the other and obtaining immediate employ in the Hindu culture. So no, in India there is no equivalent for a Brit and a German both listening to the same composer, or for a Spanish monk immediately working in hierarchy of the Vatican. The polytheistic Indian subcontinent may be the same religion in category, but the differences in regional worship means it is much more varied than Europe under Catholicism or even with the split between Catholics and Protestants. An Indian on one end of the subcontinent and one on the other would not be following the same liturgical calendar, listening to the same compositions, taking about the same novels and philosophers, or anything like that.
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2yr ago
Correct, the test is whether the most important books or compositions are from that group
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2yr ago
Test scores do not carry over into music composition ability and ability to write important books, which are two of the most meritocratic domains we have. Certainly it would carry over if you’re an engineering academic or mathematician, but in the real world the problem sets are not “solve these clear instructions and do nothing else”. The importance of intellectual balance (which is not some ad hoc formulation but was found in European culture in its most dominant period) is that you want a programmer who can determine when his instructions are errant and convey this, or can follow the instructions with the greater goal in mind versus gunning for a promotion.
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2yr ago
Whiteness really isn’t vague at all. Europeans had a shared culture that was deeper and longer than any other race category. Look at the bio of some composers or monks, for instance, and you’ll find Poles copying British composers, Italian composers in Spanish courts, German composers in Hungarian courts, Irish monks in Italy, French leaders reading Scottish writers influenced by old Greek epics, and so on. This stretches at least 400 years. We don’t even have to bring up religion.
Also, is there hard evidence that Asian students do indeed perform better in regards to the purpose of education — becoming highly skilled and intellectually balanced? If they are not more likely, than the universities are correct to balance test scores with some other, even amorphous, metric.
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2yr ago
as I specified in my OP we are discussing a hypothetical example based on the Rwandan genocide
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2yr ago
just reasserting that each person ought to get one vote doesn’t meet my argument head-on. I know it does. Why should it?
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2yr ago
And if I said “God has chosen us and sanctified us out of all the nations”, “[europeans] only have I singled out of all the families of the earth”, and “[europeans will] be a peculiar treasure unto God from all the peoples”?
We can try to lighten the statements however we want, but this is what is believed. For those versed in the Talmud it’s no problem to say “Jews were not chosen from racial superiority”, because this is true in their legalese, as God is said to have chosen Jews on His own accord thereby making them superior. Such a statement does not answer whether Jews functionally believe that they are superior.
The Talmud rolls back Meir’s assertions, with
they will receive reward not like those who having been enjoined perform commandments, but like those who not having been enjoined perform good deeds
And in some cases prescribes the death penalty for a gentile who studies the Torah
the punishment of a gentile who studies Torah is like that of one who engages in intercourse with a betrothed young woman, which is execution by stoning
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2yr ago
Imagine I told someone that God has singled white people out for special responsibilities and wants me to keep the bloodline pure, that my worship must be led by those of special German descent, and that God has made special promises with rewards to my European ancestry, including a carve out of land in, hm, Uzbekistan. They will obviously think I am crazy, because such ideas are crazy, but they would also come away with the idea that I am a white supremacist and an extremely dangerous person.
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To the same extent that a Protestant work ethic doesn’t go away when Protestantism is discarded, or the residue of guilt doesn’t go away when Catholicism is discarded. If you are raised going to Temple, or have parents who do, and spend time in a social circle that is influenced by the religion, that will have an implicit effect. Essentially, as these progressive Jews believe that the stain of racism isn’t easily washed off of white Americans, I assert that the mark of tribal ethnic supremacism doesn’t immediately disappear once attendance to Temple discontinues.
What is the evidence it was a Russian missile that hit this power plant?
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