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2hr ago
If you care about stability as a terminal goal, then we need to get rid of Israel’s nukes, and also get them out of their occupied land, which is a precondition for normalization among the Arab nations. But I don’t think pro-Israelis care about “stability”, they just care about Israel.
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10hr ago
They never had a nuclear weapons program. That is not a real thing. No expert has alleged that. I think everyone would be okay with quietly destroying a legitimate nuclear weapons program in Iran. But that’s not even a card on the table.
we turn them into a failed state
Why would this be a proportionate response to their arming Hamas and Hezbollah, two groups which pose 0 threat to America and only the tiniest threat to Israel? Why would we even be interested in turning Great Civs to dust? This is not a noble pursuit. It seems sociopathic. The ideology behind this isn’t even found in Albanian blood feuds, which have some measure of honorable proportionality. This is like African Warlord moral reasoning, or ISIS reasoning. Iran is filled with people, some of them are very smart and talented. It’s a more aesthetically beautiful country than Israel. It has cool art. If you’re interested in urban architecture, you’ve probably seen modern Iranian buildings online without knowing it. Americans (before the conflict) could just go to Iran and travel. You could be invited to someone’s home. You would be treated with more hospitality than an American treated in some religious quarter of Jerusalem, by whom you would considered an eternal stranger.
An actual problem plaguing America is the amount of drugs that come from domestic and Central American gangs. This actually threatens us. Horrible casualties from drugs. we can actually just blow up these gangs, and it would be both morally sound and effective. The cartels work with the Mexican deep state (really), and we can declare war and blow them up to save American lives. But why would I want to destroy Mexico forever just because they are responsible for some tens of thousands of dead Americans, unless I am a genuinely evil person? I wouldn’t even want us to target the homes of Mexican soldiers, which I think we are doing in Iran right now. Do we really think that we will be hegemonic forever (note the demographics), so we don’t fear China will use the same strategies against our grandchildren in 2126?
I think it is just as valid to ask as how is it not?
Consider that America gains power in negotiation with Israel and the Gulf Arabs if there is a strong Iran threatening them. This makes us wealthier and safer: we can obtain more things, including technology, for less under the promise of our protection. If Iran is taken out, our advantage over these foreign countries is weakened. We have also closed the door on getting anything from Iran, which sucks because we could have certainly recruited hundreds of their 150 high iq human capital in exchange for sanction reliefs. That would have helped us against China!
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12hr ago
backing Iraq in invading Iran
America supported Iraq while Iraq used chemical weapons against Iran resulting in 50,000+ casualties. Iran did not respond in kind on religious grounds, which is ironic; they may have used them years into the war less extensively, but the evidence for this is iffy (no UN verification)
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20hr ago
I think it oversees literally all intelligence related to terrorism except for domestic threats: https://www.dni.gov/files/NCTC/documents/features_documents/NCTC-Primer_FINAL.pdf
NCTC serves as the primary organization in the USG for analyzing and integrating all intelligence possessed or acquired by the USG pertaining to terrorism and CT except intelligence pertaining exclusively to domestic terrorism. NCTC has a responsibility to inform its partners on all international terrorism issues, and unique authorities allow personnel to analyze intelligence collected both inside and outside the U.S.
If that’s so (?), this is the top dawg of American terror intelligence essentially saying that Israel and her agents in America got us into this war.
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1d ago
Well there’s a lot you can do if you support MAGA. You can rally behind its new figures (Tucker, Fuentes, Fishback). You can make propaganda. You can start an organization, for the purposes of propaganda. You can create art, for propaganda. (I really think everything just comes down to propaganda). You can boycott things, and get people to boycott things. Things are decided by money and opinion: get the money, change the opinion. You can ensure that your money only goes to Americans with a pure allegiance, and you can change opinions. The strategy of “spend a decade in the Fox News room for the small chance to persuade Mark Levin” is just not realistic.
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1d ago
Consider the personality and lifestyle of a person who sees a poll in the mail and (1) doesn’t think it’s a scam, (2) trusts institutions, (3) wants their opinion heard by an institution, (4) has the time and interest to answer polls. (WaPo uses SSRS polling which recruits by mailers). This is selecting for (1) the least skeptical Americans, who are more likely to buy-in to propagated narratives, (2) the least independent-thinking of Americans, who trust institutions, (3) the most “authority-pleasing” dispositional types, who are interested in feeling validated by participating in a civic ritual, and (4) the people at home the most with fewer obligations, thus more likely to watch the news.
I don’t know, apparently I am the only person in the world who thinks this kind of polling must be insanely inaccurate due to the infeasibility of polling and determining the personality traits of the very people who would never answer a poll. Everyone seems to trust polling. But I strongly feel that the skeptical and distrusting American will see a poll and throw it away, and that the most “online” American will not go through the trouble of doing a poll. (I am him and he is me). I will die on this hill and if polled my opinion on the hill I will throw away the mailer.
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1d ago
The DNI has brought in an Iran Dove to advise Trump’s briefings:
Dan Caldwell, a former top Pentagon aide who was fired by Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth after being publicly accused of leaking classified information, was recently hired by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, said an administration official and others familiar with the move. In his new position, Mr. Caldwell will serve as an adviser to senior intelligence officials who are responsible for coordinating the work of 18 federal intelligence agencies and drafting the president’s daily intelligence briefing.
Dan Caldwell was a Hegseth aide who was fired back in 2025 during SignalGate. He claimed he was fired for advising against a war with Iran:
Caldwell, a former Marine officer who previously worked for Hegseth at Concerned Veterans of America, portrayed himself as an opponent of open-ended military conflict that has characterized U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East — and could resume with an attack on Iran that has the backing of some American and Israeli officials. “I think there clearly is a very strong coalition within the United States that wants to see another war in the Middle East,” Caldwell said. “And it crosses both parties.”
The circumstances of the leak and firing were strange. Some insiders believe in a cover-up:
Former chief DoD spokesman John Ullyott penned an op-ed in POLITICO Sunday night, in which said there "has been a full-blown meltdown at the Pentagon — and it’s becoming a real problem for the administration." He said he was a big supporter of Hegseth's candidacy for the job, but pointed out a number of wrong turns by Hegseth including the way Signalgate was handled. There are also new embarrassing revelations like another reported Signal chat regarding Yemen airstrikes that also included the Secretary's wife and brother. Also, a reported meeting with foreign defense officials in which his wife, a former FOX News reporter, was in attendance and sensitive information was discussed. He said the purge of Hegseth's "closest advisors of over a decade" — Caldwell and Selnick — was "strange and baffling." He suggested the entire leak investigation was some sort of elaborate set-up.
Caldwell is a committed anti-war MAGA. Back in 2024 he wrote an op-ed titled Trump Must Not Betray “America First”: The Case for a Foreign Policy That Eschews Primacy and Embraces Restraint:
A foreign policy that prioritizes making Americans safe and prosperous while acknowledging the country’s constraints would improve the United States’ fiscal policies and work to rebuild its industrial base. But these measures alone will not be sufficient: the United States should militarily retrench from regions in which American interests are less pronounced, such as Europe and the Middle East, especially when the United States’ current responsibilities can be outsourced to relatively wealthy and capable allies in those regions who have more at stake. Balancing against Iran, for instance, can be achieved largely by Israel and by the Gulf Arab nations; the United States should not have to substantially backstop them or bribe them to pursue their own interests. The United States should ask allies in East Asia to shoulder similarly heightened levels of responsibility in order to manage competition with China through strategic balancing rather than a security spiral that could easily end in a full-on war.
All things considered, I wonder if this indicative of the American military intelligence position on the conflict. You’re bringing in a guy who was outspoken against an Iran war throughout 2025, who is quote-tweeting Khamenei’s funniest bangers to countersignal the Iran hysteria. I’m also really confused what happened with SignalGate. Who wanted them fired? And why?
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1d ago
Fox and people like Levin are dying out; viewer average age is 65. And Levin would not allow any genuine MAGA person in his newsroom. It’s just unfortunately not something MAGA can change. This is entrenched media which we always hated. MAGA never cared about Fox.
Tucker was the most popular Fox show, so it worked with Tucker, for a while, until he was fired. Now he is on x: 18 million views on his Nick Fuentes interview on x, 7 million on YouTube, while Levin is lucky to get 4,000 views on his YouTube channel and 150,000 views on his Fox videos. Tucker’s video on Iran is 4.5x the views of Levin, which is insane when you remember that all Levin does is fearmonger Iran to his audience averaging 65yo. But none of that matters because it’s Trump’s favorite show. The Alt Right has no avenue to influence the 80yo Trump like that, they just have to create propaganda and wait it out.
Tucker is a grifter
Genuinely makes no sense. What is he grifting? What does grifting even mean to you?
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1d ago
All of the energy behind Trump originally came from the “alt right”, who created the memes that boosted his popularity in the first place. They were fighting the likes of Ben Shapiro and Mark Levin. I remember the exact moment when he spoke about Mexican immigration in unadorned speech and how that immediately turned up the support 10x. MAGA is Trump if we’re talking copyright but the nationalism obviously preceded him. You had to be there. The nationalist current began at least four years before Trump’s elections.
Mark Levin opposed Trump, now Trump likes him
He’s on Fox News. That’s pretty much it. Unfortunately he is 80 years old. We had a guy on Fox News, they got rid of him, but now Tucker has his own show. This does allows Tucker to continue the true “alt right” spirit though. We will see where we end up over the next decade, if it looks more like the original MAGA vision or the Mark Levin vision.
The broad base of MAGA still supports Trump and the Republican Party loves Trump
I see no organic support for Trump online. I think midterms will tell. I think there are those like myself who will be voting straight D.
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1d ago
Hey, I didn’t say I wanted them to have political power! Give them money, free room and board, and let them go wild with STEM.
What all of these groups have in common is that they hold the Talmud in high regard, and they believe that the authoritative redaction of the Talmud is the Mishneh Torah by Rambam. I can look into this work to see if the behavioral guidelines are responsible for their conduct. In this work, in chapter 10 of Avodat Kochavim, it is written that it is forbidden to have mercy on gentiles:
It is forbidden to have mercy upon them, as Deuteronomy, ibid. states: “Do not be gracious to them.” Accordingly, if we see an idolater being swept away or drowning in the river, we should not help him. If we see that his life is in danger, we should not save him. […] To whom do the above apply? To gentiles. It is a mitzvah, however, to eradicate Jewish traitors, minnim, and apikorsim, and to cause them to descend to the pit of destruction, since they cause difficulty to the Jews and sway the people away from God, {as did Jesus of Nazareth and his students,and Tzadok, Baithos, and their students; may the name of the wicked rot.}
I can then check to see if this is in effect today, and if this passage is taught. Because I have familiarized myself with the Jewish religion, I am aware that “Chabadniks” are fast becoming the new center of worldwide Jewry. So I can check to see whether this is taught on their official website. It is, as recently as February 18th of this year, so not even a month ago. The passage is there and taught. But is it in effect? Maybe they don’t really believe it is in effect. I can see that the official website has ten Rabbis teaching this course. I click to listen to each. I hear that they all teach it as authoritative and binding in the present day. I see that there are footnotes. These footnotes are new, from the 21st century, added to clarify anything that could be misinterpreted. The footnotes agree with the consensus of rabbis, and are even worse: they add that other authoritative texts consider this rule “one of the 613 mitzvot of the Torah”. I am aware of how seriously they take their mitzvot. The footnotes include this detail —
Our Sages declared, “Kill even the best of the gentiles.” […] Any gentile who does not accept the seven universal laws commanded to Noah and his descendants should be slain. These directives, however, can be interpreted to apply only in a time of war or in a time when the Jews have control over the gentiles. When the Jews are in exile or must take into consideration the dictates of gentile authorities, an idolater cannot be slain merely because of the sin of idol worship.
I find this problematic. They teach, and believe, and confirm, that I should be killed as soon as they get power over me. This is an issue, especially so given the demographic projection of this group, and the power that they already wield in America. For instance, I know that Jared Kushner belongs to this group. I know that Jared Kushner compelled Trump to fire Chris Christie because Christie prosecuted Kushner’s father, and Jared believed that his father’s crime should be decided by a Rabbinial court. Jared believes that the Rabbis should form a clerical court in my state, which supercedes the legal court. (Jared’s father had blackmailed his brother with sexual kompromat; Jared’s father may have brought down Governor McGreevey using an Israeli honeypot, as he had brought McGreevey’s lover in on a visa years earlier from Israel; Vanity Fair has a piece on that story). Jared has influenced his father-in-law, the president of the United States, to wage a war against Iran. This war has killed Americans and could kill many more. It is also killing Iranians, and no Persian ever called me goy.
So here is my criteria: do they believe in Rambam, and the Talmud which informs him? Do they believe these things in an unreformed state, that is, that the rules are in effect today? Do they support Chabad? As I’ve said in comments before, there is no criticism to be made against Reform Judaism, except in those cases where they act as fellow-travelers to a cult that wants me dead. Ezra Koenig is the best singer-songwriter of the 00s; I even love his Jewish music. Jeff Kaplan rules. I like the Weinstein Bros, I think they’re cool. I wish we had 1000 more Von Neumanns.
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2d ago
I have been against war in the Middle East since my youth, long before I knew that Israel played any role in it, back when most people thought it was for oil. My first political engagement was Ron Paul followed by Infowars (it was a different time). I was against it because it harms a lot of innocent people. For the same reason: I’m against the Ukraine war, I want to execute fentanyl dealers, I’m against Somali scammers, I am against mass low-wage migration, I am for tax-maxxing the wealthy into oblivion. “Does it harm innocent people and benefit the evil” — I am against it.
So you ask me how I feel about a “group” but refuse to define it. The issue I have with Israel is its oppression against innocent people, which is more egregious because they lie about it and because America supports it. If you ask me whether we should end relations with KSA for Yemen I would say yes, but this event is simply outside my political awareness, I see nothing about it anywhere and I can’t determine what’s true or false. There are separate issues I have with Jewish organizations:
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they run the cars4kids scam which exploits compassionate Americans by stealing their cars under the pretense of charity. Up to 1 billion a year. This is evil. They are not called out by the Jewish community. Ben Shapiro shills them on his show. The Jewish community at large runs cover for it; no jew has stopped associating with the groups operating this scheme for moral reasons. They should be called out. I know people who have donated their car to them. I have, unwittingly, passed by their location on the way to a brewery. Their town is in my state, where they pop out 8 kids each using welfare schemes in addition to the charity scheme. When 70 of them got caught welfare scheming some years ago, they used their political connections to settle: all they had to do was pay back half the amount. You can watch a video about this town published two weeks ago with 8 million views because it turns out a lot of Americans hate evil.
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they run the “fellowship of Christians and Jews” charity. This steals hundreds of millions of dollars. They exploit the compassion of Christians by manipulating their guilt-prone instincts under the guise of charity, targeting the elderly. All of the money goes to Israel. This is evil. It is abject evil. No one in the Jewish community calls it out.
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they are engaged in the security grant program scheme. They are disproportionate recipients of hundreds of millions of dollars in these grants, and use it to build their religious centers. This was a united effort by the Jewish community, just like how they got themselves to be labeled minority business owners for loans.
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in NYC they steal billions of dollars in public money so that their kids can be sent to religious indoctrination centers which do not teach English; they do not even learn how to spell “America”.
How should a normal, compassionate, rational person feel about the groups behind all this?
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2d ago
“You are hateful and motivated by hate” is the same old anti-Western argument that has been weaponized against Americans for 60 years now. It’s a stale, tired, and debunked anti-Christian canard. It’s been used by Marxists, Soviets, the racially-aggrieved, you name it. In recent years it has been rehashed by the pro-Israel mouthpieces who whisper in Trump’s ear. It is a laser-guided munition aimed directly at the Western Christian soul and its beautiful guilt-prone culture. And we are over it. No one buys it anymore. The guilt-tripwire has been illuminated and darkness will not overpower the Light.
As there is evidently nothing useful I can say to someone insistent on reading everything through the lens of pure hatred, I will only point you to the words of someone more Jewish than you, who has more experience in Israel. Feel free to call him an antisemite. This is from Moshe Ya'alon, the Minister of Defense in the 33rd and 34th Governments of Israel, the Deputy Prime Minister and Minister for Strategic Affairs in the 32nd Government, and the 17th Chief of the General Staff of the IDF:
On the last Tuesday evening, I participated in an event marking International Holocaust Remembrance Day. When I got home, I received a message about Jewish pogromists attacking Palestinians in southern Mount Hebron, stealing their sheep and burning their property. "You can't compare!"…
After ambulances, which tried to reach the scene, were delayed by the Jewish terrorists, three Palestinians were evacuated to the hospital, one of them suffering from skull fractures. "No event can compare to the Holocaust that happened to us!"…
I immediately turned, of course, to those responsible for security in the area, and I was promised that the incident was being handled by the IDF. Until now, no Jewish terrorist has been arrested (as in many other cases), because… Israel Police is controlled by a convicted criminal, a racist and fascist Kahanist, the Shin Bet is controlled by a representative of "Jewish Supremacy" from the study halls of Rabbis Tau, Lior, Ginzburg, and Zini (his uncle), the Defense Minister prevents administrative detentions of Jewish terrorists, and the additional minister in the Defense Ministry encourages illegal outposts and equips them with off-road vehicles, in order to embitter the lives of Palestinians to the point of dispossessing them of their land, and settling the area with Jews (again, you'll ask why I accused the government of "ethnic cleansing"!?).
The ideology of "Jewish Supremacy," which has become dominant in the Israeli government, reminds one of the Nazi racial theory, "but it's forbidden to compare!"…
I commanded the Judea and Samaria Division, Central Command, and the IDF; I knew the warnings of Prof. Yeshayahu Leibowitz against a process of brutalization to the point of turning us into "Judeo-Nazis" (in his words), due to our control over another people. I did my best, even as Defense Minister, "so that we may defeat terror and remain human beings."
I never deluded myself that only through concessions would we get "peace now," and I also understood the danger of "Jewish Supremacy" to our future and existence. Therefore, I advocate separation based on Yitzhak Rabin's last programmatic speech of blessed memory on October 5, 1995, and the title of my book is A Long Short Way. As of today, Prof. Yeshayahu Leibowitz was right, and I was wrong. The role of Israel's next government is to prove that Prof. Leibowitz was wrong, and if not—we will bring destruction upon our state.
The "Jewish Supremacy" government—the government of lies and betrayal—the government of messianists, draft dodgers, and the corrupt—must be replaced before the destruction.
I must have confused the details of a conversation re: Ireland.
Jew-hatred
This is an ad hominem attack, and a confused one. It’s not clear what you intend by Jewish. Are you counting Neturei Karta? The Samaritans and Karaites? Ezra Koenig? Glenn Greenwald and Max Blumenthal? If you mean “a system of beliefs and behavioral demands”, then there is nothing wrong with liking or disliking it based on its merits. I imagine you strongly dislike Salafism and Khameneism, or there is some ideology which you hate out of an impartial consideration. Do you mean the system of codified rulings considered normative among Rabbinical Judaism as practiced today? I think you got upset when I made a post a while back which specifically analyzed the moral code as taught among Orthodox Judaism.
even under what passes for "international law," that land basically belongs to whoever can hold it
This is not how the international community has ruled when they have come together at the UN. It seems you’re suggesting that international law is illegitimate. That’s unfortunate. Do you believe moral law is illegitimate? Why shouldn’t the international community come together to enjoin a minimum of rights and obligations?
it's not directly analogous to England and Ireland
How so?
Palestinians have always had a national identity (they have not)
When you’re living around everyone with a similar identity, there is no reason to distinguish (say) “Palestinian” from those living in the border regions of Lebanon. The Irish did not have a national identity until the 1800s.
Jews […] there for centuries
Yes, the Sephardic Jews lived peacefully in Palestine for a long time. They were 2.5% of Palestine in 1800! Surely this doesn’t mean they deserve to inherit the whole thing though, right?
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2d ago
No one is forcing Israel to occupy and encroach on land in the West Bank. If they don’t want to add the residents to their nation, then they can just stop occupying and dispossessing them.
I believe in the past you have claimed to be Irish. I might be misremembering. One way to gauge your moral intuition on this conflict is to imagine a scenario where the British decided to occupy Ireland tomorrow, dispossess them, ban them from traveling throughout the UK, steal their homes, and then fund chavs to settle in Irish towns, chavs who routinely harass them. Occasionally chavs will burn down an Irish home or kill random Irish civilians. The British in the UK press call anyone who opposes this a Anglophobic Brit-hater.
Or another scenario to imagine: “what if Iran took control of Israel?” You can imagine Persians confining 3 million Israelis to an occupied zone where they are periodically brutalized and dehumanized. How would you reply to this? Do you think the international Jewish community would accept this as “just part and parcel of living in a civilized world” or something?
It’s very easy to call things that challenge us “hatred”. It’s harder to put ourselves in the shoes souls of the oppressed. If it were so easy to practice compassion for our enemies then we wouldn’t need a whole religion to compel humans to do it. As an Irishman I’m sure you know what I’m talking about.
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2d ago
What do you think about AI being employed as tool for propaganda in the Iran War on either side? Will we see widespread use? Has it already been used in the Ukraine War or is this its first appearance?
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2d ago
https://www.newsweek.com/iran-plan-israeli-palestinian-conflict-vote-1887056
In the statement, Amir-Abdollahian said the first such occasion to be held since the war in the Gaza Strip began "provides an opportunity for thinking [of] a viable, responsible and real solution" to the conflict and its underlying causes. “Emphasizing the natural and inherent right of the Palestinian nation to legitimately resist oppression and occupation," the minister said, "the Islamic Republic of Iran has responsibly presented a democratic initiative for the Palestinian issue which has been registered in the United Nations. "Iran believes that the oldest and most painful crisis of the present century in the region and the world can be resolved through a referendum, with the help of the United Nations among the original inhabitants of Palestine, including Christians, Muslims and Jews," he added.
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Iran is not the Middle East, Iran is Iran
Poland is Poland, not Europe or Ukraine, and America is America, not Europe or Ukraine, but they’re both funding Ukraine to defend against Russian aggression in Europe. Surely if Iran lacks the right to fund defensive groups against Israeli encroachment, then Israel lacks the right to encroach on land for around 80 years. The majority of UN member states consider the Golan to be Syrian and demand it to be returned, but Israel occupies it with American approval. Isn’t it strange that Iran, the supposed “international pariah”, is not encroaching on any new land, not once in the past fifty years?
a literal
spookydoomsday clock
Their official stated policy goal is to leave the fate of Israel up to a democratic referendum which includes displaced Palestinians. Oh the horrors of justice and the rule of law! Is our heart so small and our palate so delicate that we should ignore three million Palestinians in the West Bank living in a dehumanizing and disenfranchised state as Israel’s state-sponsored proxy settlers (some labeled terrorist groups in the US) torture and torment Palestinian women and children nearly every month? I hope not. America should be unironic social justice warriors (not the gay kind).
Iran has been waging a proxy war
Israel has been waging a proxy war upon much of the Middle East through her greatest proxy America. I hope I don’t need to list all of the atrocities and damage caused by this proxy in the region. We are literally their proxy. We do their bidding because their supporters pay us to. You can pick up a copy of the Israel Lobby and read about it. If it weren’t for Israeli lobbyists it is unlikely that Iraq and Afghanistan would happen, and we likely would not have taken out Assad (half a million dead), and so on.
Other proxies include the South Lebanon Army which caused the Sabra and Shatila massacre. You can read how “prior to the massacre, the IDF took [their proxies] to training camps in Israel and showed them documentaries about the Holocaust. The Israelis told the Lebanese fighters that the same would happen to them too, as a minority in Lebanon, if the fighters did not take action against the Palestinians”. And “as the massacre unfolded, the IDF received reports of atrocities being committed, but did not take any action to stop it. Instead, Israeli troops were stationed at the exits of the area to prevent the camp's residents from leaving and, at the request of the Lebanese Forces, shot flares to illuminate Sabra and Shatila through the night during the massacre.” Another group that Israel has funded is MEK which carried out assassinations in Iran.
It is completely reasonable for Iran to fund proxy forces against an expansionist power which has a history of oppressing their neighbors. You may have noticed that America has been doing the same thing, as we fund Ukraine because of the territorial ambitions of Russia. The difference is that any Ukrainian left in Russian territory will eventually be given full rights; the Israelis cleanse the land of every Muslim and Christian they can before acquiring it, and any remaining non-Jew is oppressed and cannot participate in Israeli democracy. Horrifying. Do you think Russia has the right to target American scientists sleeping in their homes with their children via ballistic missiles, because we funded a proxy group to defend against their expansionist ambitions?
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3d ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Praying_Mantis
It’s definitely a parallel to the current conflict, it’s just the drones and missiles make it no longer rational to take Kharg. It’s no longer the rational thing to do, so someone is telling him to do it. Even John Bolton (!) is skeptical of how prepared we are.
My pessimistic prediction is: small landing; American soldiers die by drones; American news reports rumors that Iran will release the drone videos (they would not because they’re not that retarded); together this propaganda promotes further action by Trump + public; somewhere along there is an Israeli false flag in America; greater ground troops; many Americans die and trillions wasted because of Israeli by 2030
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3d ago
1988 Iran is not 2026 Iran. Drones + their ballistic program.
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3d ago
search “go to war”, second result https://www.c-span.org/program/campaign-2024/former-president-trump-campaigns-with-tucker-carlson-in-glendale-arizona/651374
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3d ago
You were justifying the war with arguments that could apply against both Israel and Iran. This suggests that your justifications are meritless, because it is nonsensical to fight on behalf of country A against country B for reason C when both countries are doing C. Similarly you argued for war against B when IMO most Americans would support doing C if we were on the receiving end of A’s aggression. It is not possible to discuss the merits of the war without bringing up Israel, the major party to the war, on whose behalf we are currently waging war. I don’t know if you intended your post to be a general justification for American participation in the conflict but this is how it came off. “Why don't people understand this?” — I am a member of the group of people who do not understand it, explaining why it is not understood.
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3d ago
The Israeli strategy has long been to confine American discourse to a narrow passage of acceptable comparisons and permitted moral indignations, so I do not find this response surprising.
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3d ago
what Iran is doing - shutting down the global economy
Iran can’t be blamed for defending themselves from an unjust attack by Israel. I would hope Americans would do the same if they were in Iran’s place; if they wouldn’t, I think they lack courage and a moral compass. If Israel decided to start targeting the homes of every American service member, and our only hope was to shut it down, then that’s what America should do. This is the proper response to an Israeli attempt at your national annihilation, something they have a track record of doing in the past 80 years.
launching missiles at and deliberately attacking civilian infrastructure
Israel does this
They've always been interested in doing this in all likelihood
This applies to Israel
What happens if they get the bomb
Israel has the bomb. Every accusation is an admission when it comes to Israel. The Israelis, with a straight face, will tell you we should “help the Iranian people have their voices heard” while they keep three million Palestinians under a military occupation and prevent them from voting and moving freely in violation of international law.
I haven’t watched the documentary yet, but IMO if you wish to increase the sum total happiness in society, it’s better to lean into “women should be ashamed of their gender” than “men should be ashamed of their gender”. This is because women are more sensitive to shame, threats of social ostracization, and other kinds of social stressors, while being more socially conformist, and while also being more “vain” in their choice of mate (hypergamy, which is just nature naturing), and more likely to instigate divorce when the status differential is changed in their favor [1, 2, 3]. Men, contrarily, are more likely to take risks and break social norms in order to secure a mate, and so any attempt at shaming them into not getting laid will be less effective. So there is a qualitative difference in the effect size of any behavior-policing social intervention: with the same amount of shame, you can modify more of the behaviors and values of more women than if you tried the same for men. We know from a study on the Lancaster Amish that women who are controlled according to traditional values have less stress, fewer symptoms of depression, higher aggregate scores of mental health, lower levels of intimate partner violence, higher levels of social support, and even report lower levels of unfair treatment owing to gender (lol, lmao even) compared to the general population. We can only imagine how happy they would be with traditional values + modern Starbucks beverages. Traditionalism also uniquely buffers against the depression-increase when women marry:
In light of the data, I’m not sure why anyone would take manosphere / feminism discourse seriously. Neither of them have any evidence-backed plan to make men and women happier. Maybe the manosphere increases male happiness by providing a sense of cameraderie? I doubt feminism makes anyone happier as feminists always seem distraught.
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