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You're evading the question.
The value of eighteen year old nubiles underwear is trivially answered with Subjective Theory of Value, because there are a lot more men who want to buy panties over anyone else wanting to buy a man's boxers. Trying to reduce it to labor is not only nonsensical, in this case: it's meaningless.
And you can do this for pretty much anything you can imagine. Why is a Stradavarius more valuable than any other violin? Why is a signed First Edition book worth more than a reprint? You can't dodge into 'socially necessary labor' - because who defines that? Who measures it?
In every material sense, these goods are no different from other commodities of a similar nature, identical in function and content. But one is worth much more than the other. Where does this value come from?
To admit that there is a subjective value to commodities is to dismantle the entire Marxist argument. Why should a blind person's art be worth less than a Da Vinci? What is the natural talent of a eighteen year old girl to wear underwear? Your examples crumble under the least scrutiny.
It is human beings who decide what the value of things are. And if you still argue against this, what's the value of a bitcoin on a desert island? A bar of gold? Where does the labor come?
Our old friend Impassionata is far more likely a suspect: crossposted over there. https://rdrama.net/post/403216/themotte-catches-darwin2500-in-the-act
To be honest, I enjoy a dishonest shit-stirrer, if only as a vaccination against bad arguments. It solidifies my political convictions, if anything.
No, you can speak for me. It's fine.
I was the one who wrote the Hasan post and nowhere in it did I allege that Democrats approved of or condoned such behaviour. Twitch drama may be lowbrow, but it is undoubtedly culture war. Hasan's bad behaviour - not just rhetoric, mind you - reflects only on himself.
You want to call all of the right wing Nazis, so that doesn't make me particularly special in that regard. Give me some credit. I'm not stupid. Obviously you made this post not out of a desire for sincere debate but to tar every Republican as a Nazi by association.
So call me a Nazi if you'd like. So what? What does that change? What should a hot-blooded American do to a Nazi? Tell me what you're darkly hinting at.
There is no symmetry to this, because you could be openly and without hesitation be a communist and still be in polite society. Hell, you could get tenure. Do you know of any explicitly fascist professors in American academia? Is there a organization of fascists in similar scale to the DSA, heck, the Communist Party of the United States of America?
No. There was a cordon sanitaire that was working very well until leftists started to abuse it to push social and economic conservatives out of the overton window. There is no red scare in the modern day that is comparable to the brown: your argument is basically 'no u' with a bit of effort. Communist is not a slur in the same way fascist is. It should be - given how much atrocity has been committed in the name of class warfare - but it isn't. And you know it is.
Yes, it's a big problem, and it's your fault. To be specific, it's the left's fault for calling everyone they disagreed with a Nazi. They called Bush a Nazi. They called McCain an Nazi. They called Mitt Romney a Nazi. They even called Trump a Nazi (how a unashamedly pro-Zionist figure such as him could be is beyond me.) The sum total of all your pearl clutching and ad hominems is that actual Nazis have snuck back into the Overton window.
The very understandable reaction: "fuck it, you're calling me a Nazi, I might as well be one."
So stop using it as a slur against milquetoast social conservatives and Christians, for fuck's sake. You, and people like you, have welcomed the browns back into the political discourse because they are the only ones who have the steel in their spines to tell you to go to hell. And boy, do they look strong in telling liberals and wokes to fuck off. An entire generation of young men thinks it's cool to give you and those like you the middle finger.
What you can do to stop the Nazi menace is to stop calling people to the right of Stalin Nazis. You, in fact, possess the agency to turn down the heat. The left have purged all of the people that could be coerced with shame: now, only the shameless remain. Why are you so surprised at this? Why do you come here and post these links - which amount to insinuating that your political opposition are Nazis? I've never heard of that one before. Don't you see that your actions are counterproductive?
You don't say the devil's name because you tempt him to come. Now he is here.
You're not beating the logs-in-eyes allegations. None of anything you said would reflect on how Arabs would treat Jews in a hypothetical one-state solution. The evidence we do have is from the expulsion of Mizrahim from all Arab countries to Israel - a pogrom you blame on Zionism. But they didn't do anything for Israel. They were completely innocent in the matter, but they were expelled and had their property confiscated anyway.
That was, undeniably, ethnic cleansing at the least. Genocide, if you stretch it. And you deny it so pithily, with a single sentence. As if the actions of Jews in Judea and Samaria reflected upon them as a whole.
Why should I trust you accusing Israel of genocide when you downplay the Arab one?
Having weak and marginal Jews in your community that paid the dhimmi tax and that you could coerce the beautiful daughters into Islam is nothing like brotherhood, unless you want to tell me that the European ghettos were similar exemplars of tolerance and understanding. The Jews don't want to be dhimmi. No one wants to be a non-Muslim subject in a Islamic country if they can help it. Even the most tolerant Palestinian wants the Jews to live in a box outside of the holy places and be milked for taxes by the bridge troll.
I'm sorry, but your historical read is just wrong. The leftist perspective is simply delusional: too focused, as it were, in the splinters in others eyes to mind the logs in theirs. Your romanticization of Muslim tolerance is historical revisionism at best.
Cultural Marxism is a demonstrable thing, unless you believe that culture is some sort of fungus that shows up on economies. What do you think Homo Sovietcus was, anyway? Only orthodox Marxists care to elevate their dogma as some sort of materialist science of history, which it obviously isn't and has failed on its falsifiable claims over and over. Late-stage capitalism has come and gone like so many proclamations of the Rapture.
Wokism is the bastard child of communism, and the connection strengthens in spite of strenuous denials of paternity. People realized you could substitute historical materialism for any other sort of intersectional nonsense. They could add infinite categories to the class-based analysis to suit their own purposes. As an active heresy and schism of the left it remains after Communism itself discredited its own legitimacy over a hundred years. They even claim to be communists themselves!
This was birthed from intellectuals on the left. History didn't stop with Kapital. Pay the damn child support - with words, if not action.
The simplest explanation is that yes, corporations can gain such scale and power that paying the CEO 100 million dollars makes sense in a free market economy. Corporate officers are merely the highest-paid employees in a corporate structure and their salaries are not fixed by a mysterious cabal. If a board of directors could pay them less, they would and could. The ability and talent to grow a firm is rare: you can't hire Steve Jobs and Elon Musks off the street, and even if you can, you have to pay them for the opportunity cost of them not going off and pursuing their own ventures.
Controversial Twitch streamer Hasan Piker allegedly uses a shock collar on his dog on stream.
It is narrative shorthand for a villain - to emphasize his wickedness and complete removal from the family of man - to kick a dog for no reason other than vicious spite. While on air last night, expounding upon his hatred of America and its violence and imperialism, his dog Kaya stands up behind him. A Tibetan mastiff/guardhound mix, the streamer purchased her a long time ago as a puppy. Nowadays, she spends the majority of her waking existence sitting behind him, in camera as a prop during his streams. As soon as he sees that she's moving off the bed, he shouts at her, and reaches for something off-camera. Immediately afterwards, the dog yelps as she tries to lay back down.
It is obviously a shock collar that is being used. No amount of denial or snarky comments can get anyone to believe that their lying eyes can see any differently. And if you think that's an overstatement - I invite you to see the footage for yourself. The fact that the man still has a career after saying "America deserved 9/11" is testament to the country's tolerance for extreme left-wing radicalization, but this might very well be the thing that can take him down. Americans love their dogs: creatures of innocent, adoring love for man. The fact that Hasan uses his dog to sustain his flagging social media presence - in emotes and in donation messages - is a transparent attempt to associate his vile personality with an animal's emotional resonance.
You can tell a lot about a character of a man by his treatment of creatures who depend entirely upon his good will and care for their lives. By this metric, Hasan is a despotic and evil blackguard. One hopes that these clips are shown at tonight's congressional hearing to the Twitch CEO. At the very least, it will be entertaining to see how the man deflects for his pet demagogue. Perhaps, in a peace offering, he can offer to collar the streamer?
As a self-admitted partisan, Reddit is a pretty accurate source for what the liberals are currently believing and narrativizing about, ever since Twitter went down. Bluesky is too crazy, Threads is barren, Facebook is full of boomers, Instagram and Tiktok too noisy. Anything else is too small to be relevant.
Reddit is the largest online collection of Democrat partisans online: it's something they're proud of. It didn't use to be that way but it is now firmly enemy territory.
Intellectuals are more capable than the hoi polloi of elaborate self-deception. I suspect that at least some of us here are immersed in the New York Times reading, granola-eating, NOVA-commuting segment of the American population where things like seeing Kamela Harris as a viable candidate are in vogue.
I hate him for being a blue-tribe brahmin who believes in the progressive shibboleths: the left hates him for not being maximally accelerationist revolutionary Che Guevara. The magnitude of dislike is not equal.
When he goes 'trans issues are not tactically wise for politics, we should get into power and then implement them', I think, 'oh, he's a liar.' They go, 'oh, he's a HERETIC!'
That's already happened. If you go to his subreddit, it's full of people who do nothing but hate him, like Joe Rogan. I think Reddit is a pretty good barometer as to one's current bona fides in the Democrat party.
You would think that gay men would have a better grasp of straight men, of the internal theory of mind of their fellows. But that doesn't happen. Why?
The 'breeding little fascists' comment is what takes it from merely heated political rhetoric to over the line. Children should be insulated from politics, ideally. Unless you want partisanship to creep down to the elementary schools and kindergardens and have people bully each other over how their parents voted. There is no defense for that comment and he should resign.
I read this off a comment talking about the Sherlock TV show done by the BBC - stupid people think that smart people are wizards. They literally can't understand them, and when they try it's like a smeared caricature of a psychic precognitive superhuman. When Sherlock enters a room, he intuits the correct sequence of events from an incredibly spurious and thin bit of evidence. From the stupid viewpoint, smart people are magic guessing all the time.
It is not, in fact, magic, but rather a systemic way of thinking that is orderly and (ideally) well reasoned. But a stupid person might go 'what makes your magic guess better than mine, huh?'
If you can't understand people's reasons, you sure as hell can't understand their motivations. It's easier to believe that your enemies are malevolent cackling pedophiles than to understand them as agent-actors with self-interest and multiple motivations. And when a smarter person disagrees with you publicly for reasons you can't understand, you lash back in narcissist ego-defense. People don't like being made to feel stupid even if they are and will lash out in comically disproportionate ways.
Ah, oops! My bad.
I don't think it's uncharitable to characterize his actions as a emotional overreaction. If he didn't want to be known as the LibsofTiktok guy, he shouldn't have done it. Sokal himself is primarily known for his hoaxes rather than his academic work. What did he expect?
Is it fair that a singular act overshadows everything else he's done? No, of course not. But that's the impression he made on many of us. The moral of the story is that gay furries shouldn't throw stones from glass houses.
He had a meltie about being called out on the whole LibsofTiktok hoaxing thing.
If he had just did it for the lulz, he would have been forgiven, but he had pretensions on becoming a Serious Intellectual. The whole affair became his cross to bear and he kept on doubling down on how lying to people to make a political point was a Good Thing Actually until he flounced out of here.
Shitposter fails to launch to serious political influencer career, many such cases.
I see you, Arius of Cyrenaica, trying to spread your homoiousian nonsense. Of course we know Jesus agreed to it, because Christ was of the same substance as God the Father, as decided by a council of bishops brought together by God's chosen representative on Earth, Constantine the Great. Being of the same substance logically follows that Christ knew of the true formulation of God's church, even after his death.
The Motte is no place for you or the Arians who hold to your corrupted image of the triune nature of God.

I will buy panties from you - if you wear them in a manner that is confirmable by a third party, for a long enough period of time for them to be noticably soiled - at a price that the market will bear.
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