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How many normie churchgoers actually understand that orthodox Christianity requires them to believe that Jesus is literally God, as well as being the son of God? I honestly don't think it's that many.
From what I can tell, even Catholics do not, on average, understand that they are supposed to be asking saints to pray for them rather than praying to the saints, or that the church considers Genesis to be non-literal, or that divorced women are not supposed to be having sex with men other than their ex-husbands. The priests know, of course, but somehow it is never their most pressing concern to make these things clear in simple, straightforward language to their flocks; probably because they can intuit how well it would be received.
Doesn't seem terribly important to the average Christian experience? I bet if you questioned normie churchgoers who had never seriously studied theology about the exact nature of the relationship between God and Jesus, most of them would spontaneously reinvent Arianism, and have no idea they were committing a heresy by doing so. Trinitarianism is something you can only come up with after reading too much Aristotle.
...okay, fair. DataPacRat has some weird fetish for people becoming body parts of other people (limbs, organs, etc). He really needs to stop; nobody wants to read that.
Yes, it will drive up wages, but those wages will buy less, because there are less workers to produce goods and provide services. As long as each person produces more than they consume, each additional worker makes us better off.
There are two big hiccups:
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"As long as each person produces more than they consume"; is this true? Illegal immigrants are generally not eligible for welfare, but they drive on public roads, use public libraries, illegal immigrant children go to public schools, etc. There are also negative externalities, but Latinos are much less criminal than blacks, and Latinos get rid of blacks, so it's probably a net positive.
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Housing. We have insane zoning policies that forbid us from simply building enough housing for everyone. Per pigeonhole principle, if you have 100,500 people but only space for only 100,000, then 500 people must be homeless and the remaining 100,000 will spend all their spare money bidding up the rent to avoid being homeless. If you deport 1000 people and get the population down to 99,500, that would make a huge difference.
(Of course, would be better to just build more housing, but there wasn't a build more housing candidate on the ballot; there was a deportation candidate)
In increasing order of wordcount:
- Friendship is Optimal: "Hanna, the CEO of Hofvarpnir Studios, just won the contract to write the official My Little Pony MMO. Hanna has built an A.I. Princess Celestia and given her one basic drive: to satisfy everybody's values through friendship and ponies. And Princess Celestia will follow those instructions to the letter...even if you don't want her to." [39k words, complete]
- Luna is a Harsh Mistress: "When Celestia banished Nightmare Moon, she didn't go alone, but with her loyal army. Now they're trapped in an alien environment, with tensions high and the air running out. If they don't work together, their princess will soon be alone after all." [230k words, complete]
- The Moon's Apprentice: "Twilight Sparkle failed her entrance exams for Celestia's school. Worse, she is a danger to both herself and others, resulting in her magic being suppressed. Dreams crushed and now one of the weakest unicorns, a nightmare comes to her." [412k words, complete]
- Message in a Bottle: "Humanity's space exploration ultimately took the form of billions of identical probes, capable of building anything (including astronauts themselves) upon arrival at their destinations. One lands in Equestria. Things go downhill from there." [514k words, complete]
- Changeling Space Program & The Maretian: "The space race is on, and Chrysalis is determined to win it. With an earth pony test pilot and a hive full of brave-but-dim changelings, can she be the first pony on the moon? / Mark Watney is stranded- the only human on Mars. But he's not alone- five astronauts from a magical kingdom are shipwrecked with him." [797k words, complete]
- To the Stars: "Kyubey promised that humanity would reach the stars one day. The Incubator tactfully refrained from saying too much about what they would find there." [948k words, ongoing]
Anything by Greg Egan or Andy Weir.
DataPacRat: S.I., Extracted, "FAQ on LoadBear's Instrument of Precommitment" and Singleton, Friendship is Optimal: X-Risks are Magic
Glowfic: "but hurting people is wrong" (Thellim is from dath ilan, a version of Earth where everyone is Eliezer Yudkowsky, and her world has a ton of innovations that are absent from ours but which do not rely on different physical laws)
Arianism makes a lot more sense than Trinitarianism, though; it is the radical notion that God and Jesus share the exact same relationship that every other father and son do, instead of some not-even-wrong word salad about substances that is so incomprehensible even its adherents admit it's a mystery. If I was convinced that something like Christianity was true but was not really clear on the details, I would become an Arian, like Isaac Newton, or perhaps a Mormon.
I'm rather dissatisfied with the entire rational fiction genre, because it all seems to be fantasy that hinges on magic or "magic" systems that just so happen to be navigable by autists with a modicum of rules lawyering or vidya minmaxing skill.
A lot of rationalist fiction is fanfic where nobody in the source material ever tries to take over the world by rules lawyering or minmaxing despite it obviously being possible. The ratfic then answer the question "what would happen if an actually smart character got dropped into this setting"? The better stories go out of their way to explain why this hasn't happened before and give the hero an equally smart villain to keep the plot interesting.
Is there any rationalist fiction that takes place in a completely mundane setting without video game logic or outright ass-pull magic?
What, you mean Earthfic? At that point, you are better off just reading biographies of great scientists and entrepreneurs like Richard Feynman or Elon Musk, or nonfiction books about cognitive biases and economics.
From "Rationality and the English Language" by Eliezer Yudkowsky:
Nonfiction conveys knowledge, fiction conveys experience. Medical science can extrapolate what would happen to a human unprotected in a vacuum. Fiction can make you live through it.
Probably the biggest difference between fictional settings and reality is that fictional settings are almost always constructed in such a way that large effects do not require large capital investments, the way they do in our world. Requiring that things get done by a research team in twenty years instead of by a hero in one minute kills the fun.
Somebody over in the old country asked for rationalist podcast recommendations. I had a nice list ready to go, but Reddit keeps deleting my comment as spam no matter what I do. So for lack of a better option I'll just post it here:
- The Methods of Rationality Podcast
- Rationally Speaking
- The 80,000 Hours Podcast
- "#25 – Robin Hanson on why we have to lie to ourselves about why we do what we do"
- "#32 – Bryan Caplan on whether the Case Against Education holds up, totalitarianism, & open borders"
- "#126 – Bryan Caplan on whether lazy parenting is OK, what really helps workers, and betting on beliefs"
- "#172 – Bryan Caplan on why you should stop reading the news"
- The Bayesian Conspiracy
- Conversations from the Pale Blue Dot
- Dwarkesh Podcast
[1] https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/rationallyspeakingpodcast/rs135-9.mp3
I wish Anna was a Manic Pixie Dream Girl. A Manic Pixie Dream Girl fucks you. Anna is just a bitch.
But the biggest problem with Unsong is that Aaron is a pussy. He is not brave or manly. He has very little agency; things happen to him. By the end of the story, he has become an observer to the Cometspawn, who are the ones actually moving the plot forward. He's got yandere Buffy throwing herself at him and he still holds out for Ms. Lets-just-be-friends. This is someone else's story; Aaron is just along for the ride.
The second biggest problem with Unsong is that Scott has disease of MCU writer; he cannot stop making jokes, even during serious moments, which completely ruins the dramatic tension.
Other problems: Schizophrenic narrative structure that constantly jumps between past and present story threads involving completely different characters and locations, Kabbalism is a lackluster magic system.
Still, I think Unsong has a lot of really cool ideas (the Comet King is fucking awesome). There is the core of a good story there, even if the execution is badly flawed. I think if you gave it to a more talented rational fiction author to rewrite, like Eliezer Yudkowsky or Alexander Wales, you would get something truly wonderful.
For the unaware: https://youtube.com/watch?v=6yN2H3--1aw
There are immigrants and then there are immigrants. Mexicans are pretty harmless. But open borders means taking in every random Indian, African, and Arab that wants to come in; that's a problem.
I liked it. It was like an old-timey teletype news wire.
At a minimum, redemption requires that you admit you were wrong, that you stop doing bad things, and that you work to fix the evils you have done. Aella has done none of this.
A woman in the background who keeps the man erect until it's his turn to perform with the star, usually through oral sex.
In a normal, healthy, average relationship, men trade resources and services for sex. That’s just how it goes. Prostitution simply formalizes the exchange.
The problem with prostitution is not the selling sex for resources; as you correctly note, wives have been doing the same thing for all of civilized history.
The problem with prostitutes is that they provide sexual access to numerous men at the same time, thus spreading diseases, creating children of unknown paternity, and destroying their own ability to pair bond.
These are all problems even if she does it for free; hence why "slut" is as much of an insult as "whore".
I feel really bad for the five. Imagine getting past the automated filter, then the manual filter, contacting Aella, acing the interview, obtaining a ticket, and passing the STD test, all to accidentally come in a fluffer.
I found it funny how, despite her very unusual views and history, she wound up in the same place as many normie high-earning careergals, struggling to find a man who earns at least as much as she does:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GpLudIca4AEQP_0?format=png&name=900x900
Equally funny how she phrases it as "they're poor in a way I'm not financially prepared to support in a world where I want children," but when pressed, clarifies her requirements as "I would like him to have at least equal money to me".
Aella is rich; she could easily afford to support a kept man or a house husband if she wanted, as countless men have done for their wives and mistresses throughout history. This isn't about her needing a partner who can provide for her and their children. This is about her getting the ick from any man makes less money than her.
This is about hypergamy.
Oh, come on. He obviously means to kill them. Which is morally abhorrent; hence the coy phrasing.
And as for "damaged goods" ... to go back to OP's example, Aella has been publicly looking for "someone to get happily married to" while aware of the issues there for about 5 years now, still fruitlessly.
Aella's Twitter is private. Archive link.
The problem, so far as I've gathered, is "the guys I like enough to want something more than a casual sexual relationship don't want to marry me and have kids
So, in other words, every woman ever (or, at least, every woman since the sexual revolution).
Aella has talked about her troubles finding a man who is up to her standards before:
Aella: its v annoying that i seem to be searching for a romantic partner who's at least a little bit more powerful than i am
Geoffrey Miller: It's OK to be hypergamous.
Aella: yeah, it's just annoying. it dramatically reduces mate options. like 99% of guys i casually meet are less powerful than me
Aella: if i go to specific events that are selected for ppl doin cool stuff, then it feels closer to a normal mating market, but those events are pretty rare
It's not that she doesn't want to settle down, it's that, because of the way female hypergamy works, her own level of money, success, and status has drastically shrunk the pool of partners she considers acceptable.
(This, incidentally, is why even the most milquetoast brands of feminism are so misguided; women don't want men who are equal to them, they want men who are older and richer and taller and more powerful than them. By making women equal to men, all you are doing is making men undesirable husbands to women.)
Note that Aella is 33; she is past the age where she could reasonably expect to find a husband, even if she were not a notorious whore. If she still wants children, at this point her best bet is to become a single mother; in a couple of years, even that will be out of reach.
To be kind to the cruel is to be cruel to the kind. Watching Aella's reputation go down in flames is what prevents young girls from wanting to follow in her footsteps.
Either being a whore is high status, or it is low status. If high status, good and proper to encourage your daughters to embrace that career. And if low status... this. This is what low status looks like.
So before you feel pity for Aella, remember the alternative.
I feel bad about it, too. But it has to be done.
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