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functor
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functor
1d ago
Another war that is supposed to spread woke values to the middle east and flood Europe with migrants. Luckily the refugee waves haven't been significant yet as the US is failing its war. These wars are destroying western civilization and it is a good thing that they turn into fiascos.
functor
1d ago
There is a big difference, LRASM is less than 1/3 bomb and the rest is missile. Since the US doesn't have bases near by and because of air defences the US is relying on expensive, difficult to manufacture and limited stockpiles of guided munitions. These are also the weapons the US is basing its plans for a war against Russia or China on. The school with 150 killed girls was hit by two tomahawk missiles. The US only manufactures a bit over 100 per year.
functor
1d ago
Hundreds of thousands died in Afghanistan and they completely failed. Bombing countries is far less effective and the bombing is minimal compared to Vietnam or Laos. Bombing barely worked at the scale that it was used during WWII. That scale simply isn't possible today.
The new Ayatollah is 56. He is less likely to suffer from dementia than various other world leaders.
The Gulf states asked us to do this.
Move away air defences, abadon bases and let them fend for themselves?
functor
1d ago
If killing leaders was a sign of success the US defeated the taliban 10x over. Loads of vietcong leaders died. The US replaced the Ayatollah with his son.
The air defences in the gulf states and Israel are so degraded that the number of successful strikes by Iran haven't diminished even though they are using less ammunition. Iran is holding 15 million barrels of oil a day hostage while the US can't even come close to doing anything that resembles winning. The US largely abandoned the gulf states and let them fend for themselves.
The Epstein fury has to fire expensive long range munitions that are of limited supply which clearly weakens them against China.
The US operation against China might be 2x the current size of Epstein fury which would be inadequate against China. The US has lost several long range SAM-systems and used an unsustainable amount of interceptors while failing to defend its bases in the region. With Chinese level of level of bombardment these bases would be completely smoked.
Compared to 2003 this invasion is lack luster and clearly shows the US would not be able to take out China.
They helped defeat ISIS.
Two of their neighboring countries were occupied for long periods of time with well over a million dead as a result. Why wouldn't they help them?
The big refugee waves from Europe came from US military interventions that Iran helped shut down
functor
7d ago
Purity test as in not doing a massive regime change war in Iran?
What is the limit? How low can the republicans sink while the base stays loyal? Americans should do what the British are doing by abandoning the torries en mass
functor
10d ago
I am going to laugh quite bitterly if this whole Iranian adventure turns out to have as a promary purpose being the least-PR-unfriendly method of ending the Houthis: by removing their sponsor and letting the Saudis take care of them out of the public eye, as rooting them out via US boots on the ground would create remarkably negative photos for the domestic crowd.
twelve years of bombing Houthis did nothing. The US lost its largest naval operation since world war 2 against houthis that have no navy.
Iran has way more capable systems in far larger numbers when it comes to disturbing shipping and way better geography.
functor
10d ago
The US public doesn't want this war and there is a reason why Trump ran on America first and opposition to war rather than neoconservatism.
The republican position is that these wars are a giant waste, lead to massive refugee waves, cost trillions, kill Americans and grow the surveillance state. There is a reason why Matt Walsh, Nick Fuentes, Thomas Massie and Tucker are going hard against this war. It is a war for big government that kills typically red coded voters.
functor
10d ago
Israel is currently occupying parts of Syria after bombing Syria and backing jihadists for years. They are currently expanding their territory on the west bank. The few thousands of jews who lived there can stay. The Eastern Europeans can go live somewhere else.
functor
10d ago
There have been christians there for 2000 years so why aren't all christians allowed to move there?
functor
10d ago
Yet people who haven't lived there for 2000 years are allowed to move to Israel.
Israel is continuing to attack its neighbours, continuing to steal land and continuing to attack christians.
functor
10d ago
The goal is to wreck the middle east and keep all other players weak. The goal in Syria wasn't a prosperous democracy, it was to shatter the country into pieces with no functional economy or cohesion. The goal isn't to "liberate" Iran, it is to weaken its leadership, keep the country poor and keep it in a constant state of turmoil. This is great for Israel, expensive and bad PR for the US, horrific for the middle east and brings blow back for Europe.
functor
10d ago
Israel failed to control Gaza in two years of war and Hamas is still running it. 70 000 dead people and they couldn't control an area the size of a small county with closed off borders.
How has controlling Yemen gone with relentless bombing for 12 years?
functor
11d ago
Just bombing until they give up worked so well in Vietnam. Afghanistan and Yemen have been bombed relentlessly. It didn't work.
The US isn't going to control the middle east by just bombing.
functor
11d ago
Libya was completely destroyed 15 years ago. This war shows that drones and cheap missile technology has leveled the playing field. Gadaffi couldn't really do anything. Drones and loitering munitions have made a repeat of operation desert storm infeasible as fast maneuver warfare is substantially harder today. Meanwhile the US bases are getting pummeled with rockets and shipping through Hormuz has ground to a halt.
functor
11d ago
Fundamentally Israel failed in Gaza. They couldn't ethnically cleanse it.
functor
11d ago
Israel was pushing hard for sanctions and destablization in Syria. Israel backed jihadists in Syria, bombed Syria and were actively trying to undermine it.
functor
11d ago
The big refugee wave from Israel's warmongering was Syria. It was a disaster for Europe. Luckily Ben Gvir failed and we did not get a major exodus from Gaza. Fundamentally Israel got stuck in a forever war it can't win. They aren't really managing to expel large numbers of people or win. They are stuck in a permanent state of emergency. Israel today is like the French in Algeria 70 years ago. They can't really win, they kill a lot of people and they are burning political capital at a high rate.
Israel is not going to collapse any time soon. Untenable states can hang on for some time. With that said a country that small can't be stuck in a permanent state of emergency and function. Rhodesia, South Vietnam and French Algeria seemed stable and were stable for a long stretch of time even though they had no way of functioning in the long term. Hamas isn't seizing Tel Aviv next month and Iran isn't going to eliminate them with missiles. It is going to be a slow long grind.
The more wars and the more chaos we have in the middle east the harder it is to repatriate migrants and the higher the risk of migrant flows is. We need stable regimes in the middle east, not forever wars.
functor
11d ago
This war was not popular before the war
The wars in the middle east tend to age like milk with steadily declining once they start running into problems. Trump is attempting to achieve in weeks what the US failed to do in 20 years in Afghanistan with trillions wasted. It isn't going to work. Oil prices will rise and the media will be full of pictures of war and disaster. Trump really shot himself in the foot.
functor
12d ago
How popular do you think dragging the middle east into a major war is? People hate Israel from the start, now their tourist business in Dubai is shut down because of Israel.
functor
12d ago
Various Somalis are in no way an existential threat to Jews and they would rather live in an area with some Somalis than an all white area.
functor
12d ago
The people in the middle east are not going to like Israel more after another Israeli war of aggression. Meanwhile the rest of the world gets a continued reminder of what a warmongering and alien state Israel is. More Americans supported Palestine than israel in a poll for the first time in the US. That number is going to take a big jump.
functor
12d ago
Their neighbors have been pushed back as Israel has stolen land and driven millions of people off it. Many of them are now in Europe.
functor
12d ago
In multiple ways. The US population is tired of these wars.
The US military is dumber, smaller, and worse equipped than before.
The US is stuck feeding a black hole of a war in Ukraine while trying to keep pace with China even though China is far more cost efficient and has a larger industrial base. A repeat of the Iraq war wouldn't be possible today.
They levelled Gaza and couldn't win. They failed at fighting Yemen in the red sea for a year despite relentless bombing and couldn't get cargoships through. Epstein fury is a bigger failiure as the straight of Hormuz is closed so we can't have years of crusading for LGBTQXYZ in the middle east and mass immigration into Europe.
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