gattsuru
8hr ago
Correct me if I'm wrong, but federal immigration statutes require serious offenders to serve their terms here in full for local offenses before they can be subject to deportation. ICE can't just legally take some guy who's just been convicted of murder or rape and deport him.
It's 8 USC 1231(a)4.
If every one was going to languish in prison eternally, though... well, someone would complain about wasted tax dollars, but it wouldn't get that much of the Red Tribe's dander up. The problem's that a far greater number end up revolving door inmates.
What sanctuary cities do, if what I've just researched is correct, is not cooperate with ICE detainers, which are requests to hold somebody up to 48 hours after their release once they've served their sentence.
Sometimes. Most sanctuary cities/states will comply with ICE detainers for "serious felons" being released from prison, specifically, though the dividing line there gets messy since many sanctuary cities also have standing policies by their prosecutors to "consider the avoidance of adverse immigration consequences as a factor in reaching a resolution". They usually won't for those completing a jail or noncustodial sentence, and will almost never do so where they've arrested an illegal immigrant and choose to not bring charges. Many will also refuse to notify the feds on finding undocumented immigrants and some specifically prohibit releasing immigration-related information: this is probably illegal where enforced by law, but it still happens.
gattsuru
12hr ago
I do not think The_Nybbler was referring to "their strongest form."
... are you using "strongest" here to describe most extreme, or most defensible? Because I'm talking about the former.
PmMeClassicMemes does not seem to be saying "immigration laws should not be enforced" (in fact he says the opposite), and I don't know of anyone other than the most radical leftists who'd agree that literally no one, not even a convicted felon, should be deported ever.
That's nice, and all, but it's a formulation literally only you have ever said, here, and it completely swallows the difference between Nybbler and PmMeClassicMemes' position since both eVerify and direct deportation are immigration laws (hell, even Biden-esque operations are technically 'enforcing' the law, just not in any serious way). If we go back to Nybbler's actual claim, that people believe "going directly after illegal immmigrants is cruel and should be verboten", we see that PmMeClassicMemes clearly does not want immigration law used against actual illegal immigrants, even illegal immigrants with previous criminal histories. Nor is that specific to PmMeClassicMemes, as we can see by the regular refusal by sanctuary jurisdictions to refuse to honor immigration detainers at jails, or the unending panics over Kilmar Abrego Garcia.
Yes, you can imagine the actual enforcement that might be accepted or acceptable to you. But you're the one that had to bring up convicted felons. PmMeClassicMemes hasn't even used the term "convicted" or "felon" in the last month; no example brought here acts as a case where Go 100% Deportation. Maybe he agrees with you, maybe he sets the line a little higher (I don't particularly care if someone sold bootleg cassettes, for example) or a little lower, whatever.
But Nybbler's statement wasn't "literally no deportation against anyone, ever, in any situation, no matter the case". He said "going directly after illegal immmigrants is cruel and should be verboten". That's not the same thing.
The_Nybbler seems to be merely taking a shit, as he usually does, on people who have moderate-to-strong opposition to the maximal position.
Perhaps, but coincidentally he's also pointing out that people claim that eVerify policies would be just, that deporting immigrants is not, and they happen to come from immigration maximalists, and they're not very credible about that first point.
We happen to have an immigration maximalist in this thread making these specific arguments.
You're calling it a strawman.
gattsuru
14hr ago
I think nuance could exist in objections similar to the ones provided: a post that considered things like how sanctuary city policies have actually interacted with enforcement of deportation orders rather than The One Time Someone Got Caught, or whether immigration lawyers might lie in pleadings or asylum filings. I don't think it was shown, here, or that it'd be consistent with PmMeClassicMemes' other recent public positions.
There's nothing wrong with holding those positions. There's nothing illegitimate with arguing them! But they exist, in their strongest form; they are not strawmen.
gattsuru
14hr ago
I'm really happy with this soldering iron. Yes, I also have a standard weller rework station for serious work (which cost nearly three times used what this did new), but 95% of the stuff I do it's completely sufficient, the thing's easily luggable, I've ended up needing to solder in the field more often than I'd like to admit, and it's just an absolute joy to work with. There's still occasional situations where everything's so tightly spaced that I needed to haul out the old benzomatics, so I wouldn't complain if someone manufactured a version with a built-in battery, but being able to switch from wall power to a cheap usb battery pack and back is way more convenient most of the time.
These toolkits. They're not good -- the magnet inside the driver is held in by hope and prayer, the spadgers are about as strong as toothpicks, and the suction cup is aspirational -- but they cover pretty much any small electronics situation you're going to run into, and when someone inevitably loses the 5.5mm or the tweezers, it's just not that big a deal.
A good, quality, canvas satchel ('messenger bag') or hard-shell briefcase. Daily usage sorta thing, and extremely high-variance: I've seen mediocre bags in the 300+USD range, and 'classy' ones can get ridiculous (and I don't trust real leather to survive what I put mine through), but the low-end is crap that falls apart into plastic flakes in months if not weeks. And then there's also surprisingly good options in the 40-80 USD space. The ones I've been happiest with so far are Rothcos. They're not perfect. As you'd expect from a Chinese clone brand, there's some awkward design decisions, and I'd recommend hitting the shoulder straps with some reinforcement stitching. But compared to how floppy anything cheaper and canvas gets, or how quickly anything pleather degrades, it's a great sweet spot.
gattsuru
14hr ago
Multiple honest posters here have claimed that the lack of E-Verify mandate means that everything else is unserious and that failure to do so is why "many conservatives who actually care about immigration are pissed at Trump".
For the specific combination that employer mandates are the only reasonable approach and that going after illegal immigrants is cruel :
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how and why do they have the time to go get this guy who appears to be causing no issues, other than being illegal? I understand that in the minds of many, that is sufficient, and that anyone who's illegal should be deported - ok, but what is pursuing that goal worth? Is it worth sending agents of the state to chase people down? T
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No - they're simply sweeping up whomever they can find, arresting people with valid paperwork, who entered lawfully, on the basis that the government has decided it wants to re-think prior decisions. This policy is illegal, cruel, arbitrary, and capricious. This is what ICE is doing in Minnesota - illegally kidnapping lawful migrants. If this alone is not worth taking to the streets to protest, what is?
Can you provide any examples of European sympathy when Thierry Breton decided to teabag Americans?
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