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gwalabo
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2mo ago
Do you not understand the difference between teenagers shitposting on casual discord chats and on tiktok vs professionals posting in work related chats?
Which of these are people getting "canceled" over in regards to Charlie Kirk?
There's a pretty big difference between joking about something dark to be edgy, and joking about something dark because you well and truly celebrate it.
Part of what made people joke about 9/11 is the fact that there is such a widespread consensus that the speaker knows the listener will probably not interpret them as actually feeling good about the tragedy. Comedy is about breaking expectations, not reinforcing them. If you interrogated the average 9/11 joke-sayer about how they feel about the gruesome details, they would most certainly admit that it was awful. That's why it's funny when such a person will spin a bit of dark comedy out of the situation.
What makes Charlie Kirk's assassination incomparable is that the reaction was open celebration. Leftists joking about Charlie Kirk is less like Americans making a 9/11 joke, and more like if an Al-Qaeda-affiliated terrorist did so. Such a person is clearly not advancing black comedy, it's just somebody who dehumanizes his opposition celebrating bloodshed. That's the same as what you're effectively defending.
Or do you think chuds joking about "41% of trannies commit suicide" as they celebrate a bridge where a specific 14 year old transgender girl jumped off are exactly the same as random black comedy too?
You come off like you're running cover more than anything else, denying that such ugliness can possibly exist, driving a false equivalence narrative to argue that it's silly to call it out. Comparing this to generic dark humor is convenient to mask the actual, very real hatred.
To advance what Botond said, I think you need some perspective if your answer is "6'3'' male virgin is easily able to acquire a one-night-stand." This doesn't really in any way offer a solution to a large portion of men that are practically seen as subhuman in a dating context and are also not interested in one-night stands. It's cool that a guy who meets an elite standard can get the bare minimum, but what about everyone else?
I agree with you on a lot of what you're saying and I think hating women as people is unfair and a dead end, but the fact remains that they pretty much hold all the cards in a dating context and seem to be taking every possible path to make themselves unhappy when given the choice, and the biggest victim in this story seems to be unwanted men that no one sympathizes with. Constantly they are told that they must improve themselves, they must become highly-fit breadwinners with perfect attitudes (let's talk about height as little as possible), but then you have to ask: what are they doing this for? My problem with the war on the sexes is that men are being held to an elite standard despite so many of them being disqualified for standards they have no control over, while at the same time we demand women be naturally accepted with no standards even as they raise ever-increasing standards upon others.
Regarding this and all arguments pointed at men: You need to realize that a lot of guys complaining are not merely wishing for sex. These are not necessarily the same individuals. For instance, asking men to keep themselves in check when judging women, and seeing this as a potential road to recovery, is actually a total dead end. Aggrieved incels are not the ones getting laid repeatedly and rewarding women in the short-term for their long-term self-destructive behavior. Women are not incentivized to do anything at the whims of incels. Bottom-tier women have a lot more pull than below-average men. The bottom rung of men have zero influence whatsoever. The guys complaining have no sway here. This power disparity is why any calls upon men to do more for women are (as always) deeply misguided when women seem to be losing themselves even more year after year and are not being met with any calls for regulation of behavior (such calls are viewed as deeply suspicious).
Likewise, guys with standards who want a serious relationship even if they can pull a slut are easily ignored if they're not so desirable. The guys you're complaining about are a rather select few who have nothing to gain from listening to you but this kind of complaint is always generalized to cover all men, including the ones who would change it if they could, and are doing nothing to drive this issue.
Full disclosure: I'm gay, so my stance is perhaps naturally male-biased, but I have no vested interest in the straight dating market.
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