hanikrummihundursvin
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hanikrummihundursvin
1mo ago
It does. But it seems like a necessary step to take to prevent more genocides.
I mean, if you're suffering from FOMO and it's your wish to get the last one in before we stop you're welcome to make your case.
hanikrummihundursvin
1mo ago
I don't know. Is there apartheid lore I'm missing from the middle East?
hanikrummihundursvin
1mo ago
I'm OK with the existence of a jewish homeland. Israel as a particular project is problematic as it infringes on another peoples homeland. I'm also reluctant to offer much support for the Israeli side in that dispute given how belligerently zionists have behaved.
hanikrummihundursvin
1mo ago
Unlike the many zionists and jewish people I've interacted with online over the years who continuously argue against ethnocentrism, national security and sovereignty for people who are not jewish, I'm supportive of all nations having a secure homeland.
hanikrummihundursvin
1mo ago
There's nothing interesting to that objection. It's the equivalent of stating that a labrador and a border collie can not both be dogs since they're not exactly the same.
hanikrummihundursvin
1mo ago
The argument following those admissions is that either Israel is an apartheid state because they don't intend to ever return sovereignty to the Palestinians. Which is what has been the de facto state of affairs for decades. And no one has any reason to believe otherwise.
Or Israel is placing Palestine under a prolonged illegal occupation. Be that the discrimination, illegal settlements and de facto annexation or whatever else. In either case there is nothing positive for Israel here.
But that's the argument: Its not apartheid, it's illegal occupation. Fine, say that. But the argument is not 'actually it's not apartheid when we do it because we rewrote the laws so the words don't line up 1:1 with South African law'.
hanikrummihundursvin
1mo ago
I'm sure we can all appreciate the real world difference between the Russian owned coal mining outpost of Barentsburg, hosting a population of ~300 that operates on Norwegian land, and Palestine.
Or appreciate that refugees from the Israeli Palestine conflict are not the same as Palestinians living on their own land.
Pretending that no one understands what apartheid means is just annoying wordplay. Israel occupies land and legally distinguishes between the populations within using various criteria and discriminates accordingly to maintain control for the designated ethnicity, just like SA did. They employ de facto separate voting rolls, just like SA. They even deploy the same alleged tokenism SA did. It's as close as you can get to the original to the point of parody. But regardless of that, the practical effect is the same.
The Israelis as they exist today never intend to relinquish any relevant representative control over the explicitly racially defined jewish state of Israel to anyone other than jews. They define themselves ethnically. They define their state ethnically. It is not possible for Israel to exist without jews. It's not possible for the state to be jewish without jewish sovereignty.
But when you live on the same land as a population group that is not jewish then you either make your bed as an apartheid state to maintain your ethnosupremacy over the land or you let everyone vote. There's no argument for why West Bank jews can vote in Israeli elections but West Bank Palestinians can not that is not de facto apartheid driven.
hanikrummihundursvin
1mo ago
Outside of the oil sheiks, all of them are already either in open conflict, proxy conflict or cold wars against the US. I don't think it's selective at all to go after Israel given the US is already going after everyone else. Outside of the oil sheiks, of course. But they, despite everything, managed to play the PR game better than Israel so it's hardly a mystery why their heads are not on the lefty chopping block first.
hanikrummihundursvin
1mo ago
If we care about doling out equal punishment to all at the same time based on nothing but moral intuition then the same logic applies. Doubly so if we pretend we are not human beings with agency and capacity for strategy and understanding of context but instead mindless automatons that have to follow every possible strand of 'logic' to its conclusion or our heads blow up. But that's obviously not the case so no.
The current issue being focused on is Israel. The current strategy is aimed at disrupting and ultimately stopping the regime. If the power of anyone relevant can be leveraged to that end in any relevant way then that should obviously be done so long as it's beneficial to the cause. To that extent everything that's going on with this political theater is 'logical'. Mamdani has to demonstrate ill intent towards zionists at the behest of his electorate. And if you asked the NYC electorate if risking the sanctity of the UN was worth disrupting the Israeli government that is terrorizing Palestinians then the answer would be yes.
hanikrummihundursvin
1mo ago
I'm not seeing a failure mode for Mamdani voters here. As far as they are concerned their moral principles are the reason the UN exists in the first place. If the UN is not serving those principles then what's the point of venerating it? Create a migrant hotel for Palestinians out of the headquarters instead. Host an annual anti-zionism conference. Do something that lines up with the morals of the demos.
To steelman the lefty base, Israel has been waging its ethnocentric terror campaign against the Palestinians for decades. The time to invoke the sanctity of our international institutions passed us by a long time ago. The moment Israel stopped pulling their punches after Oct.7 and the UN did nothing, any surface argument for maintaining the pretense that these institutions matter went out the window.
hanikrummihundursvin
1mo ago
The hysteria over this flies both ways.
The DOJ has no grounds to take any action against Mamdani as he has only said that he was in active conversation with the legal team over whether or not he could arrest Netanyahu. That can't be illegal, can it? Following that the law apparently says he can't arrest Netanyahu so this is just PR for the lefty base.
That being said, Israel is an apartheid state engaged in terrorism against civilians in large areas that it wants to ethnically cleanse and settle with the genetically correct people. The UN is by their own standards denigrating itself via inaction against such a regime. As is the rest of the world who holds on to the pretense that this is bad under any other circumstance.
To that extent the UN can not act as if their own inadequacies and failures are excusable when they fly in the face of the moral decency felt by free and democratic societies that are fast seeing their electorate turning into single issue voters due to the corruption and crimes committed by zionists and Israel.
Maybe the people of NYC don't want to host the UN if this is what the organization stands for.
hanikrummihundursvin
1mo ago
Who are those leaders and what is their relationship with the US and the UN?
It seems pretty obvious that what's driving the negative PR hounding Israel is decades of hawkish zionist aggression that's been destabilizing the middle East and killing millions. Their most recent outburst of killing Palestinian civilians and dragging the US into conflict with Iran doesn't help either.
But on top of all of that zionism, Israel and Netanyahu still hold on to reverence and support from many western elites. Who constantly belittle themselves in front of their own people to suck up to zionists like beaten dogs.
So it's hardly a mystery then why far left candidates like Mamdani signal hostile intent when the entire far left wing hates Israel.
hanikrummihundursvin
1mo ago
The USS Liberty is the case in point example for zionist influence in American politics. If zionist influence had vained or stopped being a relevant factor then yes, bringing it up constantly would be a little off. But zionist influence has only grown.
To that extent JIDF posters can only pretend to not understand the context or attempt to denigrate those who do.
I guess it really has been a hard time. Now that I think about it It's been a while since I saw subscription box videos on YouTube. But looking at the data, the market has been growing...
Edit, looks like it's the general geeky and more frivolous 'loot box' side of the equation that has crashed. But people still sub for makeup and razors at a growing rate.
hanikrummihundursvin
1mo ago
The Funko Pop economy is booming.
The point is not that they were 'slow' to develop. Rooney, for instance, was very mature physically as a teen. The point is that they demonstrate a development curve that doesn't peak at 18 but rather ~25. Unlike many of the African prospects that go through academies as stars and then seemingly plateau or completely fall off after 18.
So if we take that concept and apply it to a more average European academy player, how are they supposed to demonstrate their 'potential' if they are competing against players who've already peaked? If both are similarly skilled at 18 but one is done developing and the other has years of improvement left then we're reaching closer to the issue.
hanikrummihundursvin
1mo ago
Why would that make them bad examples?
hanikrummihundursvin
1mo ago
Yeah, Rooney is not the clearest example as he probably matured faster than most in his age group, and he was physically capable enough at 16 to play with adults. But as you say, he kept on developing mentally. He wasn't just his physicality and I'd argue that many of his best performances didn't even revolve around his goal scoring ability which is what defined his earlier years.
And whilst it is of course true that youth stars of all stripes don't always live up to the hype, there's a difference between talent like, for example, Januzaj and the examples I gave. Whilst Januzaj had a lot of hype, he ended up being a middling player at the top level. That's a far cry from never even making it to the top level after being sandwiched in accolades between Toni Kroos and Bojan at 17 like Macauley Chrisantus. Not that a professional career in 2nd division football is a failure by any means. But it's certainly not living up to the imagined potential.
hanikrummihundursvin
1mo ago
I don't think many people notice that American soldiers are blacker than the general population, where the armed forces are 17% black and the general population 13%. In fact I'd wager most would not think such a thing at all considering blacks are underrepresented as frontline troops, sitting at around 10%.
A quick nitpick:
Every European country values youth football. Nations like Norway and Croatia are not exemplifying a distinction by having a good run this WC. Smaller nations periodically field strong teams, usually due to a coincidence of a talented generation synergizing at the right time to fit the right tactic. What historically separates the "big" football nations is their sheer depth.
A larger talent pool allows managers to select players who fit a specific structure, rather than being forced to field every decent player they have out of necessity and then organize around it. They are also more tactically flexible, whilst the current Norway squad, for instance, would find itself lost without Haaland at the top, there would be no lack for creative midfielders for Spain. Ultimately, no country in Europe treats football as meaningless. Every major club and most minor ones run professional and serious youth academies.
A more general thought on youth academies and the representation of foreigners:
What the mainstream often ignores about youth development is the role of HBD.
Many Sub-Saharan African players mature physically at an earlier age, making them dominant in youth cohorts. Whilst undeniably talented, their early physical advantages can skew academy recruitment. As clubs increasingly fill limited academy slots with these early-maturing players, local European prospects find themselves competing for fewer opportunities.
This can manifest in predictable ways. Where, to take an American example, dynasty establishing talent like Tom Brady can only shine through via high resistance to adversity. Or where team defining players like Travis Kelce are far from first picks. This early peak contrast becomes clearer in adulthood. Players who relied on early physical dominance at the youth level and are described as having a lot of 'potential' often plateau after 20. Meaning there was no 'potential'. They were at their peak at 17 to 20.
The most extreme examples being Freddy Adu, Macauley Chrisantus and Dominic Adiyiah. All extremely accomplished on the youth level with golden boots and the whole charade, but falling off a cliff when the physical advantage wasn't there for them to rely on. Compared with European players with 'potential' like CR7, Messi or Rooney that had 'potential' as teens and then hit their stride in their mid 20's. There is an obvious skew there despite the many variables and complexities of football.
hanikrummihundursvin
1mo ago
The Death of Nationality is the Death of Meaning
This identity crisis is endemic at all levels of the game. It starts at the lowest level, where local coaches are wont to scout outside their townships and communities to plug squad gaps. Which can eventually leave supporters wondering who exactly they are cheering for when none of the players on the pitch are local. This trend scales all the way to the top, where elite clubs deploy international scouting dragnets to vacuum up global talent.
Leagues try to patch this wound by mandating "homegrown" player quotas, while clubs aggressively market their academies as 'local'. But these measures are at best bandaids when the 'local' academy prospects are ethnically foreign anyways.
This lack of organic connection has fundamentally altered the mentality of the modern player. Today's game lacks the raw, tribal intensity of previous eras. Most notably exemplified by the 'Golden Generation' with players like Roy Keane*, Steven Gerrard, John Terry, Gary Neville, Paul Scholes and Frank Lampard to a lesser extent played with a borderline obsessive ferocity. The tribalism was so severe that it actively sabotaged the English national team where the players didn't even socialize or eat together, discounting Keane who is Irish.
You might say that's a weakness, and it obviously was. But it was also beautiful. A human story that contextualized an era.
All of this is to say that when football relies entirely on global mercenaries, when the goal is for the symbol of the team to win, you lose the ability to build genuine dynasties or narratives. Without a shared local or national identity, victory becomes sterile, and the emotional connection between the fans and the pitch is severed. That doesn't mean you can't enjoy things. But it's a level below the 'original'. The true story is with the homogenous teams that represent the essence and effort of distinct people and everyone watching feels it.
hanikrummihundursvin
1mo ago
I feel like music and movies share the same feature in that as soon as you give anyone involved an ounce of reverence or respect a part of your soul dies.
The list should all be Taylor Swift. She writes the best songs in her niche of 'all white women' and it's not even close. Except #3 which should be Fred Durst, for managing to take the essence of angsty rock rap and properly commercialize it without pretending to be a gay communist. #1 and 2 should be shared between Henry Wayne Casey and Eminem for showing the world that white people do black people better.
hanikrummihundursvin
1mo ago
One could presume that Iran knows that as well. So the assumption they would sacrifice themselves to nuke Israel is, again, a very unfounded prior.
hanikrummihundursvin
1mo ago
It's a big deal for a US foreign policy that's predicated on certain ideological priors that maintain that Iran is an existential threat. I don't find those priors very convincing.
It's an illegal occupation of Palestine. If we're concerned with using the correct terms. If your argument against SA apartheid is that it's just internal election laws then I'd want you to also recognize that SA wasn't an apartheid state either.
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