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Unrestrained parts of the 'economy' don't work towards the benefit of 'the people'.
So we start by defining who 'the people' are, and call that our nation. Then we decide what's good for them, like having families with happy well behaved children, and facilitate that through collective action. We can call it 'socialism'. A national socialism!... of sorts. We now have an objective barometer for whether things are going good or bad.
Now, that's only half the pie. There are these parts of the 'economy' that benefit from whatever it is that causes people to be sad and not have families. We can refer to them as 'The Powers That Be'. They, like the name suggests, have a lot of power through words and money, and they want to keep it that way. But ultimately they are just people with perverted incentives. You don't need to reengineer society, 'solve' women and somehow clamber around a maze of arbitrary rules and shibboleths that were created by TPTB and only exists to benefit them. All you need to defeat them is to make them aware of the fact that their power is an illusion next to people with conviction, and that they live in physical space, and can be physically reached.
So what can we do? We can start by freeing our minds. It might not go like you hope. But on the flipside we can finally stop apologizing for wanting to put a swift end to an evil anti-human culture that is dragging untold millions into a death spiral of self harm. Be a 'national socialist' in the privacy of your own head and stop burdening yourself with deference to a force that facilitates the destruction of everything you like.
So lets start: There is nothing bad about an 'authoritarian' solution that ends a mechanism that is making people into drug slaves for profit. The real 'authoritarianism' was allowing it to happen in the first place, not ending it sooner, and not punishing the responsible more severely.
All philosophy is a footnote to Plato, and all right wing thought is an echo of national socialism.
From the perspective of someone like Schumer, who is maybe a small z zionist, the assertion made here:
and to me it seems braindead obvious that Iran isn't going to stop harassing and extorting nearby shipping
is irrelevant. The assumption is not that Iran will for no reason harass and extort nearby shipping. Because that's not what they were doing before. There was always a catalyst: Hostile Israeli action under the leadership of Netanyahu.
The democrat anti-war position is a mix of internal Israel politics, where Netanyahu is seen as a corrupt moron that is turning the world against Israel, and internal US politics, where Donald Trump is seen like a corrupt moron that is turning the world against America. I don't think one can argue that this position is wrong at this point.
What should be done? I mean, what needs to be done? These problems are caused by US and Israeli action under Trump and Netanyahu and are demonstrably inferior to prior state of affairs. They need to stop.
I think a question the pro-war side needs to answer is: what are we losing? Sure, it's extremely embarrassing for anyone who put their stamp on approval on this war to fail your objective of meaningfully weakening the enemy so spectacularly that you are forced to strengthen him instead. But if you're an American voter with no particular interest in bombing Iran, what's the loss?
Stalinism mobilized millions to fight WW2 and industrialized Russia. Mao unified mainland China. Ba'athism managed to drag various backwards sects into the modern age. All of these nations had big problems, and these guys tried to solve them.
But these nations did not reach the end of history, except N-Korea, so therefor they failed? Unlike the glorious western powers that are in the process of transitioning towards third worldism in the most literal sense possible since they can't maintain their populations whilst being blinded by greed.
National Socialism is a solution. When societies have a problem that they can't solve, often because the problem is baked into the system itself, they need someone to break the glass and pull the fire alarm. The post we are replying to is pointing out problems and looking for solutions. I find it obvious and predictable that OP is gravitating towards authoritarianism, calls to duty, necessity and unity. How do you get those things? National Socialism.
To that extent your post is just a general screed against failed states. Well, so far every state is a failed state. Except N-Korea, of course. So what is the point? Are we pretending that the course of human history hasn't been dictated by authoritarian leaders? Are we just not acknowledging that our 'democracies' and 'open societies' are a complete anomaly, a living experiment that is in the process of failing completely in every single country around the globe? Or are we pretending that we can afford to ignore the problems until they just poof and go away?
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