hanikrummihundursvin
No bio...
User ID: 673
Depending on what we mean by 'rich'. You can derive a 'rich' life from servicing a litter of cats. That doesn't change the fact that the people who do so look, for some reason, desperate, pathetic and pitiable next to a person who serviced their own children instead.
I'm not trying to cast shade on people who dedicate themselves to servicing animals. It's just a matter of fact. Any substitute for an actual child and an actual family looks like the cope that it is. All energy expended in a direction that's not familial has, in some sense, an essence of waste about it in comparison.
'being liberal' didn't fall from the sky. The direction of American liberalism has been influenced and directed by jews for close to a century.
Ethnicity is an extremely important and deep topic in Europe. I don't know if you are missing the forest for the trees to make a point here but, bruh.
"Conservatives" and anti-feminists aren't the same thing. The distinction I see between them is that one tells men to get married, and the other tells men not to. Being opposed to divorce is just, at this point, a word game. Where both sides are against 'divorce' for completely different reasons.
No. What was being said is that statistically, in western society, being a woman is better, and that inserting our imagined important factors into the conversation is irrelevant since we can already see the statistical outcomes. You might value physical fitness, for whatever reason, and I don't need to care about it since every single metric shows that women still have it better than men despite men being stronger than women.
To illustrate, what good did superior physical fitness do for men? They get killed more, assaulted more, get less wages in multiple white collar professions, are more likely to die on the job, are more likely to kill themselves, more likely to be homeless. When we collapse everything, the end result is that if you are born a woman in the west then you are far less likely to fall into any of the big negatives. And controlling for intelligence, you are far more likely to fall into the big positives outside of the top .1% of western society. And even then you have mandated government programs pushing women into those areas.
No man. Maybe you have lost the thread of the conversation because it's been a day or two but the point being made was that statistically it was better to be a woman. There was no ambiguity in my replies to you about what 'better' meant.
I then made a point specifically addressing what you are doing now and have been doing, where you say that you feel that being a man is better without any qualifiers or definitions. The only argument here subsisting on a lack of definitions is yours.
Again, this isn't about what we personally think. In a statistical comparison women have it better than men in the west. Inserting our personal biases, wills and wants into the equation is pointless obfuscation.
The term 'apples to apples' here refers to job market comparisons. To reiterate: In multiple white collar professions women make more money than similarly experienced and educated men. The education and experience is the apple being compared. If being a woman was worse you would not see this.
You had stuff like this back in 2014 all the time. And there are probably examples much earlier than that. This isn't downhill. You're just on the wrong team.
Despite undernegotiating their salaries, in an apples to apples comparison women make more than men on top of everything else in multiple professions. Moreover, men don't get to decide to have kids and have money. If you have children, as a man, you are either married, and will be paying for everything, or you are going to be paying alimony.
Again, this isn't about what we personally think. In a statistical comparison women have it better than men in the west. Inserting our personal biases, wills and wants into the equation is pointless obfuscation.
It's not really about what we personally think. Statistically it's very clear that being a woman is better than being a man in the west. Especially when controlling for intelligence.
With regards to every one of those metrics, being young and smart as anything other than white is better than being young smart and white. So I don't really get your point.
I am assuming, if some institution drags you and your family through the coal because of your race, that you put on your big boy pants, as the paterfamilias, and eat shit with a big proud smile on your face. I don't understand what you would propose to do as an alternative given that any advocacy on behalf of your race is prone to get you irrationally annoyed.
I mean, if an institution announces they won't be hiring your children because of their ancestry, you don't get annoyed?
I mean, if a group of blacks beat your son to death and the justice system practically lets them walk, what does a paterfamilias do? Is it not "annoying" that the guys who caved in your sons skull whilst laughing about it get to walk free?
I mean, if a black guy executes your 5 year old and the media refuses to cover the story, does that make you more or less irrationally annoyed than seeing white males engaging in grievance studies?
In all seriousness, I am having a hard time understanding the relative strength and power of the 'slapper' from your analogy. Are you, as a paterfamilias, 'stronger' than the justice system? Media? Corporate America? The implied pride you take in being above racial grievance feels more like the cope of a servant father who tells himself that one day, at least, his son might become a janissary.
If I remember correctly Lynn didn't measure Ashkenazi Jews to have an IQ of 110. He wrote a book about Jewish IQ where, after looking at inflated IQ numbers for jews, and contrasting them with numbers from a test he actually did, which turned out a verbal IQ score of 107, he collapsed all of that together into a 110.
Think about it from the perspective of someone who has no exposure or knowledge at all. Say, a student coming into it for the first time. They might grasp that the ideology is contested, but they wouldn't be able to make an independent judgment.
That's why I said the book is good for what it is. Doesn't change the point being made, that liking or disliking something because it's fascist or marxist is silly.
Gottfried, hilariously enough, both coined the term "alt-right" and rejects it entirely as describing himself. But even if you think he's alt-right there is some amount of history that is going to inform what definitions of alt-right are more accurate than not.
I know who Gottfried is. You should focus less on point scoring and more on what is actually being said. To reiterate for you: Despite everything, Paul Gottfried can be quickly categorized as alt-right. This is true, regardless of what Gottfried is or wants. And this matters because, as I wrote in that paragraph, the people who control the meaning of labels and words can throw all of his work out the window by association. You can't be Gottfried and do what amounts to apologetics for fascism. Even if it's true.
It's really surprising me why this is like pulling teeth when you hit on similar notes yourself in the intro for Gottfried.
Really? I would think most modern Republican conservatives aren't fascists. Seems like that would be a large group.
Most republican conservatives are not like French, Ryan or Dreher. Most republican conservatives are much farther to the right of the people they elect to office. The go to examples for this being immigration and general distrust of institutions, government or otherwise. If we take Gottfried's distinction of fascist and non-fascist, how many actually fit the bill of not being fascist when most people don't trust the government apparatus. I'd call it more along the lines of 50/50.
'Gather followers'? This is silly. Akin to calling someone responding to your comments 'harassment'.
The bullying part.
If someone thinks an ideology is bad but doesn't know the policies, they are just chasing labels and looking for an excuse after the fact to support their fashion statement. I find that silly.
For the second part, if I want to quickly categorize anything, this book isn't going to help. I don't live in the past, and neither do the people who control the meaning of labels and words. Gottfried, despite everything, can be 'quickly categorized' as alt-right.
As for the third part, I agree, but ultimately would also have to concede that I'm not the modern non-fascist republican conservative that Gottfried manages to cover for in this book. And I don't know how many people who aren't David French, Paul Ryan or Rod Dreher would manage to fit into that description of non-fascist.
This comment is irrelevant to what I wrote. I'm not unaware that there are rules and preferred etiquette here. The point being made was that due to the rarity and novelty of the post you can let it slide.
On the other hand, no, there are not legal reasons at play here. The post did not break laws, which is why it was not removed and the user only got a 3 day ban. You can, in fact, make very provocative statements about what you think should have happened or what you think will happen or should happen in some undetermined legal manner in the future to some group.
For what it is, the book seems good. But as far as historical analyses of 'movements' and 'ideologies' go, I always find the topic somewhat silly. Tracing history back to its roots in this sense just seems pointless. Why care if something is marxist or fascist?
I don't understand what you mean.
You are muddying up the waters by using labels that have loose meanings. 'Liberal' or 'Monarchist' is a placeholder. Relying on a culture relative historical definition of monarchism to pontificate on what a 'monarchist' person was like in the past is nonsensical. Our historical definitions have no relevance to what people were actually like. They tell us nothing about what stimuli it was that made someone, in whatever sense you want to interpret it, a 'monarchist'.
Every single psychological trait is heritable. You are an expression of your genetic material in an environment. There is no partial cause. It's 100% total. Your response to stimuli is not accidental. I'm sure that, through some extreme environmental control, you could pacify someone by controlling their stimuli, but in a modern society, with the stimuli as they are, the people are as they are. If your reaction to the stimuli of modern society is anything other than acceptance you have in you some form of maladaptation to modern society that is incompatible with it.
This incompatibility is an existential threat to modern society as it creates bothersome things like the paradox of tolerance. If modern society wants to survive then people who are not compatible need to disappear from the face of the earth. It has no mechanism for that type of existence.
I think it's kind of pathetic to not let the guy have a chance to respond. Just looks like effeminate bullying.
Banning comments like this is bad considering how rare they are. If they were more common I'd agree with a ban, but there is a genuine discourse to be had when people have put their obvious intent of destroying the outgroup into the open. Preventing people from engaging with it by banning the person who opened up leaves this space poorer for it.
I don't understand the relevance of the point or how it relates to anything Sailer, or anyone else, has said.
I'm not unsympathetic to them. I'm unsympathetic to the people who would have, prior to this event, gloated about luddites being regressive or reactionary and used the term as a pejorative. This class of rainbow people who cheered on automation and censorship right up until those things were turned on them.

I think the truth value of the pity people feel towards a person who dotes over their cat as if it were a child is that cats are not children. A cat will never say 'I love you' back. So much emotional effort being spent on something that will never return it to anyone. It's the same reason people feel pity when watching someone earnestly playing slots as if they were going to win their money back. It's not visible to the person that is emotionally invested in their little world. But from an outside view the entire endeavor is obviously sad, since you can so easily see the futility of it. Instead of throwing your money away, maybe save it or buy something useful. Maybe instead of investing all your love into a cat, invest it into a child.
I think Catholicism is much more than just desperate, pathetic and pitiable. It's tragic. And that's, I think, part of the point of the plight of nuns and the burdens of celibate clergy. There is beauty in sacrifice. There is honor in deadly devotion. And those elements exist precisely because of what is being sacrificed. None if it changes the fact that it is stupid, and that I am against the practice of celibacy for those who have so much to give. But at least, to some extent, they are self aware. It's a plight. A burden. A sacrifice. Proof of devotion to a higher power. An overcoming of sin. I don't think many cat oriented people couch their love for animals in the same manner.
More options
Context Copy link