hanikrummihundursvin
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hanikrummihundursvin
4mo ago
When the choice is between guys pretending not to be white identitarian and guys pretending not to be zionist my wish is that we could all come together, stop pretending and just be ourselves.
hanikrummihundursvin
4mo ago
Musk representing himself as a powerful man is a break with the conventional institutional 'representatives'
The strength of the 'institutional representation' system is how intangible it is. Lies get woven into 'official' reports that get represented as fact based on 'scientific consensus' by completely replaceable 'spokespeople'. And when someone seeks to fact check these representatives and what they say they are met with the rhetorical equivalent of cold hard brutalist concrete: "Are you saying science is wrong? Do you not believe our intelligence communities? Are you anti-intellectual? Do you not believe in physics?!"
To this extent academia and media are just PR firms that wash dirt off of policy positions for the people in power. Like immigration being fantastic and without any flaws. Or that we can't share one last moment with grandma on the hospital bed due to risk of spreading COVID, but that we can protest against racial inequality by joining a giant street protest, rubbing shoulders with hundreds if not thousands of random people.
So, in fairness to Musk being incorrect sometimes: So to was the prior system sometimes incorrect! And just how incorrect it got and how impossible it was to fact check is practically why we have Musk where he is now.
I'm not sure what Hanania is after here, other than whining about the fact that X doesn't boost his posts when he links to his substack and that he wasn't picked up to be involved with any of Musks projects. Or that mass media has allowed people Hanania considers lesser than himself to reach heights of clout and upvotes he can only dream of... All things directly or indirectly mentioned in the article. To that extent the entire thing is just an embarrassing pout from the author. I mean:
The right-wing clubhouse Musk has created is just repulsive to anyone who is independently minded. I wasn’t surprised when Musk unfollowed me...
Yeah... At risk of breaking the rules: lol. lmao even.
hanikrummihundursvin
4mo ago
Why wouldn't we get the full story if the 'elements' are within Israel? I think some people might understand that sort of a cut off as a dark hint. Especially considering how outspoken Ian Carrolls is on the subject of Israeli influence in the US.
My family routinely works with the same pair of illegal immigrant contractors and they always do great work. The idea that immigrants do poor work is just cope from people who can't compete.
The opposite of my work experience. But regardless of that, the X in ten that happen to be proficient workers is not worth the hollowing out of the native labour force. Furthermore, my point still stands. GDP would go up if the assumptions made in my comment are correct. An obvious example of why GDP is a bad metric for this topic.
The original article tries to argue that immigrants are inferior to natives by using statistics from the immigrants' home nations.
Which is irrelevant to the point being made. We could see by simply looking at immigrants already here that they are 'inferior' to certain native populations. They are only positive when we lump in negative population groups into the native tally. This is why I said I don't like the term 'immigrant' and 'American'. We can see where the 'good' immigrants come from by comparing them to net positive native population groups.
Except that is what happens, as demonstrated by identity grievance politics! All this anti-immigrant, protectionism nonsense is as much grievance politics as affirmative action. You want to force pluralistic urban areas into giving you money for labor and goods despite the fact that you can't compete on your own merits.
You said they would 'disappear into the void'. That's not happening. They are advocating for themselves based on identity grievance politics. Stop trying to pivot out of your arguments.
The policies and beliefs that make California suck are Nimbyism and Prop 8. Anti-immigration, protectionist whining is just more of the same.
In the most polite way possible: I did not ask nor do I care about what your pocket theory for why California sucks. The point of contention related to how urban liberals are the lowest fertility demographic in the world. You said that their culture is 'strong' and here to stay. In reality liberals are on the fastest track to self replacement of all the demographics.
So why would I want other people to have children? That's just competition.
This is a fundamental disagreement we have. I don't see others people children as competition nor do I celebrate human shortcomings and failure. To that extent I think your viewpoint is extremely anti-human and ugly. Aside from it being very different from most Catholics I've interacted with.
hanikrummihundursvin
4mo ago
GDP is a bad metric for the topic. It goes up even when things are going bad. A 100% increase in foreign construction workers driving down pay whilst doing sub par work that needs to be repaired in two years is actually great for the GDP but terrible for anyone that wants to live in a well made house in a country with a healthy construction labour force.
Urban liberals are either dead end economic units with no children, or in their late 30's trying to move away from the city to find a better life for their children. Red tribers in America have identified the threat. They don't want those kinds of people in their neighborhoods since their policies and beliefs create places that are terrible to live in. It's less fear of supremacy, and more fear of a plague.
Did you read nothing I wrote? I'm not saying there are no differences between populations-- I'm saying that immigrants are not a representative sample from their native population.
Try reading yourself. Immigrants not being representative of their native population is irrelevant to the point.
But in point of fact, yes, forcing immigrants to stay in their home countries would improve them. That's why I'm against it!
The immigrants move, facilitating the western countries becoming worse along with their own. Everyone loses except a few economists that look at the world through a monetary lens and somehow can't wrap their brains around the fact that an economic theory that necessitates demographic collapse is a bad thing.
Let me drain the brains! I want all the backwoods towns and backward states to collapse into the void left by the absence of all their best, most motivated people.
Except that's not what happens. As demonstrated by identity grievance politics.
hanikrummihundursvin
4mo ago
If we are allowing ourselves to 'reason' so far beyond the bounds of data, we can just look at these nations today and see the effect of these sort of economic policies on aggregate.
All western countries are in a downswing. The cost of living is prohibitive, and the culture needed to keep the public open to immigration is functionally suicidal. The economic system that drives this is obviously dysfunctional and needs to be dismantled.
To that extent no further discussion is needed. If the genetically superior immigrants were who they claim to be, on aggregate, they should be able to make their own societies that far surpass the west. They don't because they can't. Thats the end for the immigration debate.
hanikrummihundursvin
4mo ago
should an intelligence allow itself to get swayed so easily by obviously biased input? The users trying to "corrupt" Tay were not representative and were not trying to be representative - they were screwing with a chatbot as a joke.
Representative of what? What should a chatbot consider to be 'obviously biased input'?
For whatever it's worth, terminally online racists have done a fair bit of work in establishing distinct and vibrant online spaces. Regardless of how one might feel about them, their discourse with each other is genuine. Why presume it's not genuine when directed elsewhere?
Regardless of the endeavor starting of as a joke or not, the racists are not laughing now.
hanikrummihundursvin
4mo ago
Yeah, and europe is worse than america so that's proof that the presence of hispanic and black populations are actually having a multiplicative positive effect on the welfare of the white population.
That sounds wildly far fetched, but is unrelated to the point being made. Which is that certain populations are net negative tax payers, and that factoring them into a simple cost/benefit analysis, similar to what's been done in overviews here, would obviously alter the native baseline. Which is why I supposed that the assumed benefit of certain immigrants is only relevant insofar as we are counting net negative population groups towards the native average.
For the rest of your post, if you are the diversity you will fit in fine with the rest of the diversity.
hanikrummihundursvin
4mo ago
I don't think there are that many who can realistically look at speedrunning as a career path. Especially not relative to how many participate in the activity. On top of that, many of those that are living off of it are living a sedentary isolated lifestyle where they have no responsibilities or costs that reach beyond their personal needs. Needs that usually don't reach beyond their bedrooms. Their 'living' doesn't cost all that much, and, sad to say, probably isn't worth all that much.
I'd also add that, relative to a 'good' hobby, you don't need an excuse like 'it makes me money' to confidently partake in it. You spend money on kayaking to go out on the water to paddle around and you still look far superior to someone who takes five hundred to a thousand dollars per month streaming their speedruns of Mario.
hanikrummihundursvin
4mo ago
I'm inherently skeptical of 'immigration' and 'America' as useful concepts in this context.
If you removed the already hispanic and black populations from the native tally of 'Americans' and compared it to the now mostly white averages, you'd be looking at numbers very similar to Europe. That's to say: Immigration from certain population groups can be economically positive or negative. Just depends on the population group and what you compare it to.
As for your freedom to do commerce with who you want... I don't believe I can convince a true believer that this is a negative. But I am sitting on the experience of watching free market absolutists change faces as soon as the diversity comes knocking on their door, and it's their progeny on the line, rather than those of some 'lazy rent seekers'. They sure can complain then, despite the root cause of their problems being nothing other than people's freedom to do commerce with who they want. They almost start mouthing off that the good of the commons sometimes need overwrite the freedom of the individual. Almost. I suppose they will leave that for their children and grandchildren to figure out.
And whilst my experience is rather Eurocentric, you can see the same thing established in practice in America. As exemplified with regards to housing prices and proximity to blacks.
hanikrummihundursvin
4mo ago
Could you? I think most normal people have a very immediate and visceral understanding of the difference between a 'good' hobby and a 'bad' one.
For example, kayaking doesn't seem to have any immediate 'practical use', but I can tell you with full confidence that it's a much better hobby than playing Donkey Kong Racing on repeat.
One could probably write essays on why and argue at length through whatever wordgames possible back and forth, but I think most people share this fundamental understanding on the matter.
hanikrummihundursvin
4mo ago
I find the idea of externally 'atoning' for your sins and/or expelling them in some way disturbing. If you do wrong and feel bad you deserve it. These emotions are yours now and you must carry them on with you. Trying to get away from this burden or attempting to ameliorate the pain through some self afflicting physical process is an act of rebellion against your own conscience. You are running away from pain your 'being' is telling you to feel. Paying a price for wrongdoing, for example a legal price, should not be seen as an excuse to free yourself from your deserved emotional turmoil.
Reading about pious pilgrims flagellating for faith, I'm reminded of people who speedrun video games. I feel sad when I see videos of them getting a new best time, springing out of their crusty chairs in a dimly lit room, screaming in elation: A new world record! Who knows how much effort, how many hours these folks spend on this completely insular and self driven compulsion to get the best time that is of no consequence to anything at all. But this perversion of effort and strife gets paraded around as an important accomplishment by similarly minded people.
Much like a sad teenager playing Super Mario for the millionth time, a pious pilgrim will do a real life barefoot desert speedrun. This is not an external exercise. It's completely internal. Completely useless and devoid of value beyond the perverted compulsion of the speedrunning pilgrim.
Reflection is important. Twisting and contorting your body to push yourself towards a better understanding of what life is for you can be noble and good. Struggle and strife for its own sake can also be good. But it has to be done for the sake of something actually 'real'. I think it's universally recognized that the only actually 'real' thing is having children and raising them. Anything else that is not working towards this goal is ultimately fake.
As an aside: To that extent you can pinpoint an ultimate 'gotcha' on the new religious right. As far as Christianity being a proxy for people successfully having children, it is obviously good. Beyond that, it's very little beyond philosophical speedrunning.
hanikrummihundursvin
4mo ago
Immigration discussion is two faced. You are either talking personally about individual people, in which case the average conflict averse person will have nothing bad to say to anyone's face, or you are talking broad statistical trends that factor over larger populations, in which case the argument against immigration is a very clear and resounding 'not very good'.
These two positions are held at the same time, but never in the same room.
hanikrummihundursvin
4mo ago
You should immerse yourself in the horror that is being facilitated, sympathize with the victims and hate the root cause
hanikrummihundursvin
4mo ago
Dysfunctional social policies cause/exasperate problems.
Problems are incompetently addressed with system bloat.
System bloat starts weighing the functional parts of society down.
Functional society members want bloat cut down.
Dysfunctional social policy advocates say system bloat cannot be cut down, citing: Who will address the problems?
The correct way to contextualize this predicament is through hate and sympathetic horror. Government waste is just a symptom.
hanikrummihundursvin
4mo ago
but I think discussing with someone about their posting is more direct and productive than just clicking report.
I am doing exactly the same thing, minus the report. To that extent we agree.
And, OP has -12.
I don't know what this means. I already see moderation here as way too user dominated. I'd prefer it if the mods weighed the quality and effort of the post put forth rather than buckling to dislikes and mass reports. Though that seems to be the opposite of what they are doing.
hanikrummihundursvin
4mo ago
As far as my imaginary vote goes, I prefer the ability to decide for myself what posts are interesting and what posts are not. Moreover, most of the utility of this place is in the discussions. I don't see the point in having to trust someone here to decide what post is likely to generate good discussion or not, when we can just wait and see.
To that extent I'd personally appreciate if you stopped asking posters to not post, and instead just clicked the - on the left.
hanikrummihundursvin
4mo ago
Seems to belong there.
hanikrummihundursvin
4mo ago
Do Pushups Post
Pushups from 18 to 21.
Pullups stay the same. 7. With an added focus on chinups for biceps. Using limited range of movement, not pulling too far up so the tension stays on the bicep.
Note on pushup form: Stand upright, put your hands in front of you mimicking a pushup. Instead of going straight, back and forth, push your arms up as you push them outwards. If you put pressure 'up' as you're doing the pushup you get much better upper chest activation. Makes pushups a real joy.
hanikrummihundursvin
4mo ago
This theory would be a lot more believable if there weren't any furries.
You're describing what you want, not how to get there. That's the fundamental difference between engaging with reality and not.
If colleges judge black people on their individual merit you will lose the vast majority of black enrollment overnight. Black people and many others will resent this. Black people and many others will organize based on their race and advocate as a group block for their group interest. This political movement will dominate politics. Call it 'Civil Rights Reloded'.
To fight this you would have to purge academia and nigh every single popular base of mass media in actions that make the Trump of today pale in comparison. That's the reality we're getting at.
hanikrummihundursvin
4mo ago
If anything Trump is doing now is giving you pause, what kind of America do you envision where you do not feel similarly towards whatever person it is that could push forth some kind of HBD driven policy? How would anything going on now not pale in comparison to that?
One of the reasons I assume centrists are not dealing with reality is because they never formulate their viewpoint into a political movement. Even if it's just an online larp on X. It never goes further than personal opinions and browbeating their left and right sides within the Overton Window.
I don't think it's a coincidence that when they actually do go into real politics, like Carl Benjamin did a few years ago, that they end up moving towards firmer ground, be that on the left, or in this case the right. Same thing happens all the time in countries with multi-party systems. The big 'left and right' parties scoop new 'not on a side' political parties up into government coalitions, they serve that sides interest and then implode next election. Or, like happened recently with my local Pirate Party, they refuse coalitions and instead slowly drift towards the left until there's no point in having them, and then they implode.
I can go on 'lefty twitter' and see what the various factions on the left are up to, same for the right. Both groups have animating theories for how the world works and what is best to do based on that. They can have fundamental differences with each other about what the world around them actually is. They stake their claims, dig their heels in and stand for something. I can't go on 'centrist twitter' and see what the propositions are from their side. What is their view on the fundamental problems and what answers do they hold? Moderate re-education camps? Racism 0.5?
At the heart of the left-right divide is a fundamental difference in how people see reality. There is also a shared understanding of the inherent necessitated logic that drives both theories. Both parties recognize this. 'Centrists', for the most part, do not. Which is why they seem endlessly bewildered why the two sides are so hostile to them.
hanikrummihundursvin
4mo ago
I'm having some vocabulary issues expressing this but:
I think people with actionable plans based on a theory of how the world works will generally place anyone who does not have any of that in the 'enemy' category. Coming in as Captain Hindsight after the fact to point out that this, this and that had negative outcomes so 'we were wrong for doing that so lets scrap our entire political project' is just, matter of factly, a very juvenile position to hold.
Being in charge is hard. In order to make policy you have to believe in something about the world around you. You then put this worldview to the test when implementing policy and change based on it. Hopefully the changes have the intended effect, but if they don't, quitting isn't an option. You can't scrap your worldview just because it's not infallible or without problems. To that extent both 'left wingers' and 'right wingers' will identify the same strain of short sighted 'centrist' conflict aversion as cowardice and sedition against their cause.
I would ask: Are they wrong? Do you have a solution for the problems that drove western societies towards the 'woke' and all of the precursors? If not, what is your point here? Should we do race communism slower? Should we do fascism more moderately? The vanguards of the left and right would both ask these question. If your answer affirms their worldview they might not brand you as an enemy, but if your answer is just a thinly veiled excuse for the enemy position then they will lump you in with that crowd. What else should they do?
'Classical liberalism' failed completely in solving the problem of the population group gaps within American society. You can approach the reason for as to why in multiple ways, but you have to engage with that fundamental problem. If you don't there is no point to anything you say as far as the political vanguards are concerned. They have to deal with reality.
And what was being argued by me was that the pursuit is flawed from the start, and that the reasoning given here:
I will argue that what makes Hitler literally Hitler, first and foremost, was not his nationalism, or his socialism, or his right-wingism, or his wars of aggression, or even his penchant for genocide, but his identity politics. I define identity politics as the embrace of a caste system with different moral standards for different groups, based on demographic characteristics such as race, religion, and ethnicity.
is just another misstep by fault of the post war consensus permeating everything. It's all 'identity politics', always has been. We've only been pretending it's not for the past century whilst the rest of the world watches in befuddlement and takes advantage. Hence why questions about Hitler and his allegedly distinctive ideology are flawed to begin with. We're passing judgement and pontifications from a historically abnormal ivory tower that's writhing and ready to fall.
But that might very well be presumptuous and unfair of me to say given there is more to follow, though I do feel compelled to defend my originalg post say that what I wrote does pertain to what's been written so far, even if it's just a driveby on a small part of a greater whole.
That's not much of a rejoinder when this system of the best and brightest in the richest and most information dense time in known human history can't figure whether men can get pregnant or not.
The argument is not about what system to use. It's about the nature of power and how the people who wield it will push their will through regardless. I prefer to know those people by name. Rather than rolling around in confusion and conspiracy regarding how on earth the American Anthropology Association managed to deduce that biological race is a mostly imaginary social construct cooked up by evil racists in the 1700's.
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