iprayiam3
5d ago
You can be reminded all you want, but these are not really remotely comparable. Donald Trump was a decades long, successful, popular mainstream celebrity businessman with the top TV show for years running.
Because Donald was elected, isn't reason to bring 'disqualifying flaws' down to zero in predictive value of other people in other contexts
iprayiam3
6d ago
‘was interviewed by Tucker’ != ‘has become a major force’. Sure, I’ll grant minor updating toward the premise, but certainly nothing that has come to pass. Tucker mostly isn’t interviewing the major players, and his own star is on the decline
I do think that the Right will become increasingly split on Israel, and that this will include some loud antisemitic voices, some loud voices questioning blind support and being called antisemitic, and a lot of people quietly sliding away. However:
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Specific, fringe antisemtic voices will be a minimal contributor to the process and
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Pro-Israel voices will amplify and blame the fringe voices in #1 as a way to deletions disagreement with their fading hegemony.
Nick Fuentes is not and there is no strong evidence of him becoming anything more than a fringe, very online persona.
iprayiam3
9d ago
Sure, the women wearing baggy jeans aren't trying to dress woke or bad on purpose. I'm suggesting that it's more downstream on the causal chain, as a product of a bunch of media and fashion trends that intentionally sidelined traditional beauty aesthetics.
iprayiam3
10d ago
I'm surprised to hear you say you're not seeing this. This is year 3 of the trend, with it first getting popular in winter of 2025. I would call this the average level of fit on women I see these days. None of the women under 30 at my organization have every worn 'skinny' or even slim fitting jeans. I was at a pumpkin patch with my kids yesterday and about 80-90% of the women were wearing baggy wide legged pants.
Assuming you’re correct about the trend, though, I would gently suggest that not everything can or should be tied to “woke.”
Ok sure. But this specifically, I am hypothesizing is related to a general trend in media over the past years that have pretty explicitly pushed a reaction against conventional beauty standards of body shapes and fashion styles, and general downplaying of overt 'sexiness'.
It is a combination of very obvious representation decisions made in media, and my 'hot take' is that baggy fitting clothes are a lagging outcome of part of the trend. Showing skin is very 'out', and I don't think it's crazy to say that woke is part of the culture that's produced it.
iprayiam3
10d ago
I don't think it's fully attributable, but I do think that's part of the equation. Surely Covid is another, with everyone living in their pajamas for a few years. But I do think that there was an androgynous uglificaiton / anti-beauty trend that went mainstream around MeToo. The body positivity stuff, plus size models, etc. It's what the Syndney Sweeny ad was a reaction to / return to form against.
There were several years where media and fashion pushed hard against conventional beauty representation, and I don't think it's crazy that it worked its way into fashion generally
iprayiam3
10d ago
Sure, a flowing can be nice when it draws attention to another part or the whole of the aesthetic. But the current incarnation is not Princess Jasmine. It's paired with over-sized baggy sweatshirts, and a general amorphous pajama vibe. I think the whole current vibe is very anti-aesthetics.
iprayiam3
10d ago
Yes, it's part of a cycle, but the specifics and timing of the manifestations differ under different context. The last 'cycle' of baggy jeans was in ~2009 with the "Boyfriend cut" as a reaction to the all-in jump on skinny. But the boyfriend cut was 1. less pervasive, and 2. much less baggy and androgynous (ironically), because 3. paired with more feminime styles. Baggy jeans were rolled and paired with heels, etc.
iprayiam3
10d ago
When are women going to realize how bad the baggy jeans trend looks (especially as part of a whole loose baggy style)?
Women walk around now looking like they’re in pajamas.
This seems like a lagging element of the anti-beauty aesthetics of woke, and I’m confused how wide spread anti-feminine dress has become
iprayiam3
19d ago
This already happened with 'racist', which was replaced with 'white supremacist' around 2021. Nazi is just the next word on the euphemism treadmill
iprayiam3
21d ago
At least some of the “praise for hitler” was mocking their own side/base for being far right.
Don’t know much about the rest. They should resign, but for being stupid and a liability not for their jokes.
In this day and age how is anyone dumb enough to make edgy jokes in professional or at least “official” forums.
Save it for the bar. Be friends with people IRL that you can meet with physically and say dumb shit to.
iprayiam3
24d ago
But that aside, it seems to me like "have you asked AI" is the 2025 equivalent of "let me Google that for you", and is just as annoying as that was.
At one of my first professional jobs, I had a very knowledgeable teammate who I relied on for a lot of advice and information. Constantly asking, have you tried googling it, what actually one of the most helpful pieces of mentorship I ever received.
On the other hand, your boss doesn’t realize it, but he’s digging his own grave. You respect him now, but you won’t still when you realize he’s outsourced his job to ChatGPT, while getting paid more than 20$/mo.
I’ve had this with several of my senior leadership, including a C-level or two. The folks who are doing their jobs, specifically the leadership parts and insight-providing parts, withAI have lost the troops.
While I use AI constantly behind the scenes, I absolutely never let it mediate communication with my team or peers.
Yes; the goal of overprescribing declining zionism of the american right to goblins like Fuentes is another vain attempt to discredit the viewpoint as unacceptable. In reality Fuentes is at best a downstream symptom of the changing tides, not a cause or much of an instigator.
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