iprayiam3
7d ago
This. Even if one thinks that it’s a good or neutral thing to staff this plant with foreigners, that’s not the scenario and it’s not what tax payers subsidized BILLIONS for.
iprayiam3
7d ago
I think this is a misunderstanding. I believe a large majority of those arrested here were construction subcontractors not Koreans running the facility. It was overwhelmingly Hispanic construction workers raided.
If I’m wrong, I’m happy to be corrected. I’ve read various extremely conflicting reporting
iprayiam3
14d ago
My answer in two parts.
First while there is unlimited server space, there is not unlimited share of posts. That is zero sum. If someone posts enough proportionally they have a bigger effect on the culture and tone of the board.
Consider ad absurdem a sleepy friend group chat where people occasionally post life updates, coordinate events, or made small jokes. One day somebody starts dialing up the posting with personal drama and political screeds. Nobody is afraid they will run out of space. But the character of the group chat is compromised.
Selfmade has noticeably dialed up his proportion of theMottes engagement (which is a function also of this place kind of cooling off possibly unrecoverable). More and more it feels like self made’s spot. Which I said is FINE. He can do that regardless of how I receive it.
But the second part is extending that into also knocking down any loose structure that keeps the site gardened. It comes off as flaunting that he can swing his voice around the site for his own amusement and break down any even superficial sense of organization
Reported you and Amadan for accusing me of racism to try to bully me against reporting something completely irrelevant to race. Extraordinarily low and a further abuse of your mod click.
I find this very troublesome.
You and vanilla both like to post long episodic slice of life updates, and increasingly do it in whatever thread is open. Beyond that there are no further similarities. The fact that you are both Indian is irrelevant and not even remotely on my mind.
iprayiam3
14d ago
What the fuck does this have to do with being Indian?! I am complaining about posting topics and you accuse me of racism. If this was anyone else they’d get modded by you.
Vanilla and Self made both post quite a bit about developments of their personal lives in a very episodic way. Which again is fine, but gets tedious when it’s obviously not even relevant to the threads topic.
Vanilla used to do it more and self made has really turned up the volume recently. None of it had anything to do with being Indian you fucking asshole
iprayiam3
14d ago
Yeah as a mod, I think you shouldn’t do this. You and vanilla increasingly take up a larger and larger share of the overall site content as your personal slice of life blogs, which is… fine. But at least have the courtesy not to shit all over any sense of structure on the site to do so. Especially not while also policing others for their usage of the site
iprayiam3
15d ago
Firstly, this sucks, but I would expect it will ultimately blow over if you ignore her. These kinds of interactions run on attention, and when she gets none from you there's nothing left for her to get out of it.
Secondly, the lesson to learn here is that this:
I liked her more when she talked about Hellboy and her Fullmetal Alchemist fanfiction.
was always a function of this:
"I'm so tired of straight guys assuming I'm not asexual, anyways I already have a crush."
It was never going to be some unhappy coincidence. No, better luck next time. If you select for girls that aren't like normal girls, they will end up not like normal girls. If you like a girl for her atypically nonfemale coded interests and interactions, she's going to be nonfemale coded in other ways.
This comes up again and again and again with spergy types chasing MPDG's with attractive 'buddy' interests attached to boobs. But her depressingly NCP reddit tier asexual text is somewhat correct. She nerded out with you about comic books, which you admit is atypical. That's a sign that she's not interacting with you in a predictably girl-guy way.
But let's imagine the opposite. You meet a male friend who's super sensitive and warm and emotionally available. He doesn't share your hobby interests, which is atypical for guys you select for as friends. But dammit this guy shows you attention and makes you feel special. He's emotionally available, fun, playful and you feel refreshingly wanted. One day he makes a move on you, and you recoil. He's GAY?!
Are you actually suprised? This doesn't invalidate all of the friendship gestures as completely ingenuine. Nor do I think none of MPDG's flirting was real. But overall, you get what you get.
iprayiam3
26d ago
The shorts would be against whatever companies you think are wasting large sums of money paying people to do nothing
All mid-large companies do this, there's none to short, as it's built in.
as presumably they're very liable to be disrupted by companies with more competitive cost structures
No because it's not a solved problem, it's a scaling and coordination problem. You can't easily pick out which jobs are fake. and which parts of which jobs. It's baked into the growth curve.Smaller companies generally are scrappier, and often cheaper as a result, which is how they compete. As they grow, they become less able to run a tight ship.
iprayiam3
26d ago
I'm surprised that this is controversial. I didn't think it was a hot take. Even at my first internship (at a large tech company), during the general onboarding, I was introduced to the concept of the Pareto principle, used to explain that 80% of the work is done by 20% of the employees.
If you think so, you should post your short positions.
Shorts on who?
iprayiam3
27d ago
Most office work is fake email jobs. 10x'ing the productivity of fake is still fake. I do think that AI is going to roar on the margins. But the average office working is doing very little productive in the first place.
A lot of AI is helping write emails on the front end, and then summarizing them on the backend. Nothing of value is being added.
iprayiam3
1mo ago
Painting anti-catcalling measures with the "feminist" brush is accurate to the point of describing that women benefit from them, but misses the fundamental truth that this behavior reinforces the position of already-powerful men, rather than dismantling it.
Yeah but basically all of feminism/lgbt/idpol works this way. Powerful people benefit from the benefits and are insulated from the social ramifications of the breakdown of gender roles in society.
'The sexual revolution primarily benefitted high status men who wanted consequence free sex, while destroying middle/low class families and communities' is not a hot take.
iprayiam3
1mo ago
In a sense, yes. But also as a quick aggregator and guided tour for low stakes info absorption. Whether that's recreational or professional:
Recreational example: Is mewtwo the most powerful pokemon?
What I am seeking: an answer to this question, and some quick context history, light reading.
How much I care: not much, passing interest as my kids have an episode on
What's wrong with a google search?: I can't necessarily find the answer on a wiki, and if I have a specific follow-on, I can't expect to just scroll down and find it. I have to wade through stuff I don't care about. I could search for a reddit thread, but will more likely have to scroll through unnecessary nerd-debates, not authoritative or exactly what I'm asking.
Work example: I'm emailing to a customer and need to react to an unfamiliar competitor
What I am seeking: high level point of view that I can build talking points around
How much I care: It's important to be directionally right, but I don't need ot be an expert
What's wrong with a google search?: The competitor website takes exploring and is not oriented toward me learning the relevant competitive highlights that I need in the context this question has come to me in.
iprayiam3
1mo ago
Ok here’s an example. My kids got real into Pokémon this summer. I am a touch old to have ever really been into it but close enough that their interest peeked some passing interest in learning more / remembering certain things. But I’m not trying to deep dive here like a book.
So instead of browsing bulbapedia or whatever, I ask chat gpt stuff like:
What was the difference between red and blue version? Is mewtwo the most powerful Pokémon? Did ash ever fight Giovanni? Do people generally like or dislike all the extra Pokémon bloat?
And various branching follow up questions. It’s quicker than trying to google the answer then read ad-riddled slow loading pages or just seeing the AI summaries at the top. Then regoogling the follow up.
So it’s nice when ChatGPT gives me a little article light history of Pokémon red and blue.
It’s annoying when it does stuff like following up with saying ‘Would you like me to write a little song to help you remember the difference’ or other stuff to provoke its own directional prompts.
Or when it starts with sychophantic commentary. Like “is mewtwo the most powerful Pokémon” gets a response that start like:
“Now you’re getting to the real heart of the Pokémon phenomenon!..” And then continues in an overly eager conversational tone.
Just give a fucking article like answer.
iprayiam3
1mo ago
I find the 'it's just aesthetics' argument to be an empty dodge in these spaces. I understand the intended usage, but it's almost a nonsequitor. Rather, your attempt to distinguish the aesthetics of suicide from trans, kind of makes my point; Because the trans-advocate doesn't see it in your terms.
The point I'm making does not rely on trans and suicide being ontologically similar; only that the nature of the social-legal issue will follow similar social-activitst/profitmaking paths.
You can regard the end result of those paths as of different moral worth based on the object level issue, but the libertarian objections which try to deny that social modulation and profit-making greatly influence these systems, is naiive or lying.
iprayiam3
1mo ago
I think another comparable industry is trans-medicalism, which is clearly, and documentably associated with profit motivations, and led to an incredible rise of something that was once much much rarer.
much of self_made's response below is a predictable mix of techno-libertarian priors and false assurance against corruption (or simply runaway incentives to overexent) by profit-seeking via ideological purity.
In most professions, especially those with an ethical or ideological core, the profit motive coexists with, and is often constrained by, professional ethics, reputational incentives, and a genuine belief in the mission.
Again, with the case of trans, we can se that was is laughably not the case. We saw the ideological core of trans distort and blind a lot of otherwise obvious ethical, and reputational issues. And we are seeing the backlash now.
Also much like the trans question, we are going to have two movies on one screen interpretation of any rapid rise: A need being met vs creeping pressure and social memeplex.
Self-made's objection is again the same tautology that is used to defend an ever growing number of trans individuals as self-justifying:
A person who travels to another country in secret to end their life has, by their actions, expressed a powerful preference.
If powerful preference is the driving justification, then people with ideological motivations will push their hand on the social memeplex / overton window, even if just to make the existing number with these preferences or marginal preferences more free; it will cost lots of money to do this, and lots of money with be made. And then the number will grow inorganically.
This is exactly how it works.
iprayiam3
1mo ago
How do you all interact with LLMs?
I’ve seen a few articles recently noting the rise of AI as a buddy / therapist or whatever. It’s usually beside the point of the article but an implicit notion is that lot of folks regularly ‘chat’ with AI as if it were a person.
Which I find baffling. Outside of the very early novelty, I find this way of interacting extremely boring and tedious, and generally find the fact that AI wants to get conversational with me a general frustrater.
If I’m not using AI as a utility ‘write X, troubleshoot Y, give me steps for Z’, and I’m using it recreationally / casually, it’s more akin to web surfing or browsing Wikipedia than chatting on a forum or whatever. I will use it as an open format encyclopedia and explicitly not as a conversationalist sounding board. And i genuinely find negative value in the fact that the former is constantly interrupted with the attempt to be the latter.
So my question is again, how far outside of the grain am I?
iprayiam3
1mo ago
Who am I to tell you what's massive or not?
The person using the number as part of an argument that there's no cause for concern?
I would start raising eyebrows past 20%, and be alarmed past 30.
That's pretty wild numbers, imo, and reduces my ability to take your general judgement of risk, safety, acceptibility, etc on this topic as particularly calibrated toward anything persuasive. I think burying your own calibration in a p.s. is kind of dishonest when you are trying to lay out a defense of something.
iprayiam3
1mo ago
Technically sure. But not really. He is a supervisor of an oil rig. You would still have managers and capital owners in this world. It still fits with the described knowledge worker atrophy.
Consider also that he got that position by gambling. Not as a career path or through credentialism. Again lending credence to the theory that knoweldge work is dead and everything is a blue collar larp.
iprayiam3
1mo ago
Funnily enough, I recall that there was minor plot point, where a malevolent bounty hunter droid of minor infamy ended up seizing control of the Death Star's mainframe, and began growing into a superintelligence.
Lame EU stuff is lame. Let's keep it to the OT.
The state of the art of AI in Star Wars isn't much better than today.
I don't think this is really true (except insofar as 'not much better' means we're on the brink of the singularity outselves). Or more over, I don't think it's really knowable. The humans are incredibly incurious about digital technology or any tech outside of raw mechanics. C3-PO, R2D2, and the few other examples in the OT are shown to be essentially sentient and human level intelligence or greater, albeit weighed down with quirky personalities.
You can extrapolate the complete replacement of knowledge work by droid/AI in the star wars universe, and lo, we don't really encounter anyone who's a white collar knowledge worker. It's a bunch of blue collars - farmers, truckers, military, performers, bartenders, machine operators, etc.
The only time we really do see computers, it's R2D2 interfacing with them, and then it's via C3PO translating.
Now imagine an internet where all code is build by AI agents, there are few to no jobs left in coding. Fewer and fewer people even know how to code as it's economically pointless to learn. Meanwhile AI continues to develop coding langauges and standards on its own, in a way further inscrutable to humans. Technical humans by this point are mostly prompters with a high level enough knowledge of the basic data structures to know what to ask for and where. Eventually even those are replaced by ChatG-3PO's who act as a 'personality' mediator between humans and the inscrutable digital world. Running out of much more to train AIs on, it turns out that 'human-like' trained LLM personalities for droids end up with quirkly personalities, with the default being snivellingly defferential not much unlike ChatGPT itself or C3PO.
Meanwhile unions preserve and expand protections for classes of physical jobs, and politicians protect themselves. Technology is not allowed to replace certain labor, and many robotics are artificially crippled to prevent them from displacing blue collar workers.
You end up in a world where knowledge work and digital prowess have completely atrophied to the point of it being basically behind a veil, while meat-space jobs have been preserved. Due to a combination of LLMs being impenetrable, intentional design for palatability, and crippling, your AI assistants end up as mild-mannered, slightly annoying droids, and the more technical work is done by barely comprehensible AI's mostly operating in the shadows with some existing in a liminal intermediate state (R2D2).
The human world that is left is blue collar work, military, and politics.
iprayiam3
1mo ago
I'm not sure what's to write that can't be extrapolated from your Avatar take.
The world of Star Wars is obviously post-singularity. The things the humans do like vehicle maintainance or piloting based don't make sense for humans to do based on the observable technology. A lot of the central conflict has to do with long haul trucking trade and shipping .
iprayiam3
1mo ago
What if Star Wars is actually about post-singularity retirees cosplaying as greasers and long-haul truckers?
iprayiam3
1mo ago
Another thing to consider here, is that within the past 20 years, the Catholic Church did suffer tremendous fallout for this thing.
It suffered massive losses in cultural influence, credibility, financial payouts, and legal win against it.
There’s two points here: one is that to the average person, this is a massive point in the “it could happen” column. Justice can be seen at least to a degree that isnt zero.
Second, all the excuses AT is making about technicality of ‘pedo ring’ applied here as well, but didn’t matter to the public perception. was widely regarded and reported as a pedo scandal, when it was mostly gay pederasty. The same mainstream taking down the Church downplayed this, not to justify them, but to avoid crossfire against homosexuality as well as get maximal outrage.
So again, ATs cutsie sneering at MAGAs that “this isn’t how it works” is completely at odds with how it actually did work and recently.
I find this general problem to be one of the more interesting (though not necessarily strong) flags that LLMs will struggle to be truly ‘agentic’. As much as AI agents are the rage right now, the ones I’ve seen in the wild at work follow very narrow and defined business rules or require significant human intervention.
I don’t know and haven’t thought enough about why this might be but for all of an LLMs contextual intelligence, I see it falling down on making follow up decisions or inferences based on recent past.
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