iprayiam3
3d ago
Yes that narrative is 100% a fabrication based on a multitude of evidence and common sense and has always been a fabricated hopium, never evinced in any way. You can debate the shooting all you want, but the whole thing stinks of inauthenticity when the left started their position on a completely made up situation.
iprayiam3
3d ago
There’s a longer video of the honking out there, it kind of pans annoyingly back and forth on the street for several minutes. You’re seeing a cut version because there’s nothing of interest immediately after. She’s on the street honking and dancing him her car, parked perpendicularly and waving through non ice vehicles. At some point (off camera) she pulls back (to let non ice vehicles pass through).
The only think of interest there is that based on how far out the car was on various pans, it’s clear that she was pulling back and forth in the car, to variously obstruct and allow passage. She was not stationary until the attempted peel out. This (minorly) adds context to the agent not knowing exactly what she is doing / her actions being more unpredictable and the alertness / sense of danger being heightened.
I think that alone is a stretch but my point is that every single additional video that dribbles out throws addition drops (at least) into the full picture always looking worse for her.
We’ve moved far beyond “confused and panicked mom just dropping off her kid approached by masked strangers”, yet that remains the “moral” starting point from which every counter narrative tries to gap.
Instead we see that she was actively using her car as a deliberate object of obstruction, moving it strategically to thwart the ice activity, and was using noise to rile up the situation and interfere with ICE apprehensions. She was creating a dangerous scenario intentionally for several minutes, and that context is very relevant to what happened in the heat of the moment 3 minutes later.
At the very minimum she was hoping to help attempted detainees to flee arrest and prevent ICE from safely pursuing and apprehending them. So she was creating deadly conditions from the get.
Suppose she was blocking a SWAT team from a drug raid while also shouting into a loudspeaker to alert the suspects. There would be no question. That she was creating a physically dangerous environment and that would factor into the police’s actions and assumptions and benefit of doubt in those moments. It would be very different than reading the same outcome with the assumption that she had just been walking a dog by the raid and gotten confused.
Yet that initial frame was intentionally set to poison public opinion and create artificial priors in the public to emotionally distort the interpretation
iprayiam3
5d ago
I don’t understand the folks still taking about her tires turning. You have to take this video in with the next most recent one over the fence. There are agents surrounding her on multiple sides including one approaching on the other side of the car.
It is very unlikely she was trying to kill anyone. But it is very clear she was ok to plow through a group of agents without respect to their individual positions. She was recklessly fleeing a lawful arrest and put her getaway above the pedestrians she was plowing through. And she did this in a cold calm manner, not in some confused panic
iprayiam3
5d ago
You do not lose track of her face as she accelerates she is smiling and then closes her mouth with a grin.
iprayiam3
5d ago
Agree. Building “golden” off ramps is just going to incite more of this shit, where people think disrupting police activity is acceptable and then panicked fleeing when they are detained. Even if officers try to comically deferentially deescalate, it’s a fundamentally dangerous scenario to embolden. What happens when a detainee hurts someone or the fleeing driver hits a bystander in their recklessness.
And the whole, find them later and arrest them, is also a joke. First the massive waste of resources and difficulty, second what happens when those involve reckless fleeing. “Officer showed up at their home and they ended up shot” is going to be much worse optics than it happening at the scene
I read the first few sentences and got to “mask off moment” and thought: oh boy I can’t wait to see which side has taken their mask off.
Anyway, it is a scissor statement. It’s basically definitionally. I dislike a lot of rationaistisms, but this is about as scissory as they come.
Yes, I’m inclined to think that your side is just as much in full on dishonest propaganda mode as you think mine. That’s the scissor.
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