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I saw a lot of persuasion in the last two years. Plenty of people were persuaded to try Trump one more time in 2024, and plenty of people were persuaded to keep him in check in 2026. Think of Obama-Trump voters, they must have been persuaded. Even persuading them to stay home and not vote is itself a kind of persuasion. Trump, in a way, persuaded people not to vote for him. Also, to chalk off entire groups of people as propagandized and kool-aid drinkers of the "never-ending fire" media is just being condescending towards the American people. Young men 18-29 didn't swing 39-points from +14 Republican in 2024 to +25 Democrat in 26 so that you can call them "new voting-age kiddos". And if the Dems fuck it up, I wouldn't be surprised if the population swung again.

I also think there is a tendency to overestimate the intensity of partisan conflicts. "blood-boiling elections" are still double-digit steps in the ladder of conflict before reaching "outright war". And I really don't see many people being trampled by the others. Maybe it's because I'm an immigrant, but America and Americans are quite peaceful and prosperous, and sufficiently high on the Maslow hierarchy of needs that Sayre's Law is being performed at societal scale.

They can only be resolved through decades-long grueling lawfare.

Not gonna leave any room for persuasion or the "changes come one tombstone at a time"?

Progressives are perfectly capable of shoving a political issue down the people's throat regardless of public opinion. California voted against gay "marriage" in 2008. It didn't matter; Prop 8 was found to be unconstitutional by the judiciary, then the Supreme Court decided Obergefell v. Hodges in 2015.

Gay rights are not the best example because public opinion on gay rights really did change that fast. "Same-sex marriages should be valid" went from 40% approved to 60% approved between 2008 and 2015 if I look at the chart in https://news.gallup.com/poll/710810/support-lgbtq-issues-remains-down-peak.aspx