netstack
Texas is freedom land
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netstack
Texas is freedom land
19hr ago
And you’re blaming that for a rash of violence dating back to July, if not last year?
I mean, I guess I think the trend is overstated, too. But it is obviously not due to cancellation.
netstack
Texas is freedom land
19hr ago
No and no. The courts have routinely protected far more aggressive speech, as in Brandenburg.
True threats can be legally prohibited, but “mere advocacy” is not enough.
netstack
Texas is freedom land
22hr ago
It’s not polite, and it’s not good epistemics; weak men are superweapons. But public discourse is never held to that standard. People insult and insinuate by analogy all the time. Technical usage of the term “bitch” does not prevent me from using it as a shorthand.
netstack
Texas is freedom land
22hr ago
Not “turbulent priests.” “This turbulent priest.” It wasn’t ambiguous in the slightest.
And I think you’re overstating the amount of violence on the ground. One murder is too many, but it’s simultaneous not an awful lot. It represents less of an ongoing threat than, say, Summer 2020.
netstack
Texas is freedom land
22hr ago
Just because you don’t like something doesn’t make it “fighting words,” and it definitely doesn’t supersede the 1st Amendment.
netstack
Texas is freedom land
22hr ago
“Well of course I know him. He’s me!”
For the benefit of our FBI agents: this is a joke. I don’t really post on Reddit anymore.
netstack
Texas is freedom land
22hr ago
While I would consider myself an aficionado, I have yet to see any pictures of the gun itself. Just a 5-round stripper clip of FMJ rifle bullets. I figured it was most likely a something like a 1903. But there are certainly Mausers floating around the Midwest.
Hoping we get more details. It’d be incredibly stupid if the media tries to paint this guy as a Wehraboo.
netstack
Texas is freedom land
23hr ago
the right can cancel better than the left
Funny, the rest of this thread is insisting that the left still holds all the cards when it comes to cultural power. Where’d you get this idea?
netstack
Texas is freedom land
1d ago
Tangential, but have we gotten any reliable information on the weapon used? From the one picture reposted everywhere, I figured 30-06. Now tabloids are saying 8mm Mauser. Weird either way. After the tacticool Butler gun and Routh’s trap house special, are we going to get a third style? Is the next assassin going to use a spetsnaz knife?
netstack
Texas is freedom land
1d ago
It depends on how much you’re already boozemaxxing. What’s your star sign?
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Texas is freedom land
1d ago
Presumably, it’s the same thing which kept Trump I from sending the FBI after them in 2020, when they were actually doing stuff. While I don’t take Trump as a principled Bill of Rights enthusiast, he doesn’t seem to have thought he could make it stick.
Lone-wolf assassins are a pretty stupid reason to change that legal strategy. Guilt by association requires, you know, association. Our best chance on that front is the July 4 ambush, where at least one of the perpetrators “met someone online” who encouraged them.
If it turns out that Rose City or whoever was funding these psychos, even talking to them—there’s your justification. Throw the book at them. But if not, you’re just making an excuse for something you already wanted to do. That’s unjust.
netstack
Texas is freedom land
1d ago
Re: Gundam, what’s special about two arms? Robits are strong, and I’m not even sure which beam weapons have recoil. If one has more than two arms, how many of them have to be used to qualify as a rifle?
I propose that the deciding factor is whether or not there’s a stock (or brace; ATF be damned) behind the grip. But Gundam variants are worse than Pokémon, so I assume there’s plenty of weird models that violate this scheme.
Unrelated, but “declaring the property blighted” has got to be one of the cooler turns of phrase for city bureaucrats. I’m sure they’re thrilled to break that one out.
netstack
Texas is freedom land
1d ago
This sounds like a @coffee_enjoyer theory.
And while I’m loath to put too much stock in any categorization, just because it’s not presecriptive doesn’t mean it’s not descriptive.
netstack
Texas is freedom land
2d ago
Something tells me the kind of guy taking potshots at ICE isn’t on that sigma grindset.
netstack
Texas is freedom land
2d ago
- “oh god oh fuck they’re turning around I can’t spend life in prison”
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2d ago
It feels so weird because you’re a reasonable person. Most people who go out and shoot at strangers are not.
You don’t need to appeal to imaginary mind control tech and shadow agencies to explain it.
netstack
Texas is freedom land
2d ago
Yes. I sorted that list in order of descending agreeability. I expect most people would find the first reasonable, which is probably why Democrats are actually doing it. Same for the second, except for the free-speech maximalists.
I probably should have made it a smoother gradient, but the question was genuine. What would “the left” have to do, in your mind, to show good faith?
It might work for the ICE attacks, where we have a clear policy, perpetrators in custody, and alignment with other groups. I’ll say that Democrats could and probably should do that. Make it clear that what the President is doing is legal and will be enforced, even if it’s challenged in Congress and court.
Not so much for the assassins. No surviving perpetrators. No conspirators at all. No comparable groups to discredit, no social networks to ban, no pet issues to excise from the party planks. Maybe not even an appetite for restricting the means.
The shortage of obvious targets is what moves it from table stakes to absurdity. You’ve either got to double down on the most similar cases—Luigi?—or widen your criteria. And widening them enough to punish all of antifa, the Democratic Party, or “the left”…that’s going too far. I understand that it feels natural for an average Republican to make that equivalence, but I believe it’s wrong.
netstack
Texas is freedom land
2d ago
If such a shooting happens, that flip-flop is basically guaranteed. So is the corresponding flop-flip.
I don’t see why either would contradict Goodguy’s statement about prevalence.
netstack
Texas is freedom land
2d ago
Hey, I thought the point of ice bullets was that they didn’t leave evidence!
Maybe I shouldn’t joke about this. It’s tragic, and disturbing, and speaks to an increased temperature in the lunatic fringe. Nothing good can come of it. As such, I’m not going to make excuses for the fucker.
Instead, I want to ask y’all what “the left” should be doing. What constitutes a “serious attempt to resolve” this situation? Does it involve public disavowals by the leadership? Cancelling any streamer stupid enough to say something edgy? The DNC taking responsibility for a terrorist act like it’s al-Qaeda? Maybe some time in the stockades, or a few televised executions? What would it take for you to feel like “the left” was making a good-faith effort?
Because this isn’t it. Whatever detente you have in mind, I cannot imagine that it involves writing bitter essays about the inhumanity of conservative scum, their unwillingness to admit that there is a problem, the inevitability of consequences when they continue to overstep. That wouldn’t be healthy. It wouldn’t feel like you were winning at all.
You are eager to treat “the left” as one organism, one will, a mouth speaking platitudes while its hand fumbles for the knife. How dare they create this situation? How could they normalize the idea that their political opponents were isomorphic to subhuman monsters?
Don’t you see the symmetry?
You recognize that “the right” is barely a coherent category, but you fail to apply that knowledge to the outgroup. How does this double standard possibly improve the situation? How can you equivocate between the normies who disagree with you and the psychopath who pulls a trigger?
If—when—the roles are reversed, “the left” is going to write pieces just like yours. They’ll try to hold you responsible for whatever fuckwit decided to bomb a clinic or shoot a Democrat. You’ll rightly protest that you never had any control over the kind of person who would snap like that. And we’ll move one step closer to chaos.
netstack
Texas is freedom land
3d ago
My apologies, then.
I think if you’re rounding off Metoo’s most visible examples in favor of the modal supporter, the same standard should apply today. There just aren’t enough trans people to move the needle.
More broadly, I don’t believe you can gloss something as a class interest group just because its biggest support comes from that class. The demographics of soccer fans aren’t enough to make it a Hispanic interest group. They’re showing up for something else. College-educated women are disproportionately likely to be feminists because they’re wealthier, more independent, and better-informed. That doesn’t prevent them from having a broader interest. Feminism has a long history of backing women in different conditions. I don’t believe that’s changed.
netstack
Texas is freedom land
3d ago
Dude made it through COVID better than a lot of people in his weight class, too. Everybody talks about Butler as a timeline-branching point, but the world in which he died to COVID is even stranger.
Fun exercise, but I’m not sure why you’re so dismissive of “amateurs and historians.” Surely they could price in the same factors you’re considering?
A translation of the edict can be found here. You’ll want sections VII, XIX and XX.
I suspect the 12-16d number comes from “women weavers of tunicas,” the only wool worker listed with a daily wage. It’s hard to line up the terminology, but this seems to be a different job than either the linen or wool weavers
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