Come on. I am pretty sure that most women, feminist or not, would be disgusted at the thought of their partner having sex with dogs and would not need "Animals can't consent" as a justification for their disgust.
Of course they would be disgusted, daguerran was not denying that. But they would be unable to justify it as anything else than lack of consent because disgust is outside of the moral vocabulary of the modern liberal west (as per Haidt's observations on WEIRD morality). Try explaining why it's disgusting without resorting to a variant of "it hurts the animal" (or imagine a situation where the animal initiated, and is clearly unhurt by it). You'll inevitably end up sounding like a rabbi or an imam explaining why eating pork is impure. Of course, in many situations it probably also hurts the animal, so the objection is also partially genuine, but it's a different impulse that led to digging for a post-hoc justification for condemnation.
Similarly he posits that jealousy is outside that vocabulary, and that the justifications for porn-negativity given are post-hoc, even if they might still make a genuine point sometimes.
A good test for that would if someone offered as a solution that porn be mandated to be instructive in helping men bring women to orgasm, but otherwise could still be of hot younger women. Do you think the complaints would stop? Do you think there's any amount of accomodations that could be done for the goalposts to stop moving? Personally, I think he's right on the money that the only accomodations that would do it are those that make either porn unthreatening to the sexual value of those complaining about it, or so unenjoyable that men stop watching.
pigeonburger
1d ago
“I’ll have ninety-nine problems, and my VP can’t be one.”
So as a presidential candidate she had ninety-nine problems and her running mate being a bitch was one.
pigeonburger
2d ago
What I don't get from the second group is the pig-headedness refusal to accept workable compromises. Plug in hybrids are (cost and technical complexity aside, and the first's less a concern on the second hand market) mitigating almost all the issues of electric cars, but no one hates them as much as electric car fans. Daily commutes use no gas or a thimbleful of gas, and longer trips are not limited by infrastructure outside of already implemented gas stations.
pigeonburger
3d ago
If you let private corporations accumulate capital without forced redistribution it's not communism or socialism, yes, obviously.
pigeonburger
4d ago
This is what makes entertainers dangerous. I hear friends repeat and absorb arguments from stand-up comedians all the time and it pisses me off; being entertaining is not the same as being correct, and entertainers, be they writers, artists, comedians, directors... do not have access to a source of cosmic wisdom that makes them more likely to be right about anything than anyone. In fact, many of them live very atypical, non-representative lives that I would not be surprised made them more often wrong than the modal person of similar intelligence.
I keep telling people that but no one IRL agrees with me. Everyone is addicted to hearing "but what happened to characters after!!!" and few writers manage to write the stakes down or at least sideways in a sequel, the appeal of "recontextualizing" a perfectly good original as being only one part of an overarching, higher scale and higher stakes narrative is too strong. But unless you execute that perfectly, you actually damage the original. If you avoid scaling up, a lesser sequel does not damage the original, look at Back to the Future; part 3 is certainly lesser, but it can be ignored entirely if you want. It does not cheapen or weaken 1 and 2.
What was nice about Stranger Things from the start was not the characters, it was setting and vibes, those could and should have been preserved and the characters ditched.
Yeah, I don't know how someone can wave away the fact that it's possible to, on stock markets, bet against a company, and that it's trivial for a CEO to ruin a company in a sudden, stroke-of-a-pen way that makes frontrunning everyone on benefitting from the collapse guaranteed. The individual incentives becomes to wreck every single company.
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