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By that logic do you hold the USA responsible for 9/11 as well?

I much prefer Iran doesn't get nukes, but to be contrarian, why should Europe care? Iran isn't threatening to nuke Berlin or Rome.

This is a luxury belief for people who think that global security is a default condition. Europe doesn't have to care about the free flow of goods because the U.S. does it for them. It baffles me that the same people currently panicking about the traversability of the Strait of Hormuz would be indifferent to chaos or autocracy in the middle east. Is the supposition that, if the U.S. were to likewise walk away with "why should we care", peace and prosperity would flow unbounded?

Well I think this dispositive. If it's 50/50 whether the USA is morally culpable for the atomic bombing of a country it was at total war with, who vowed to fight to the end, and who started the conflict with a surprise attack, I don't find it at all believable that the USA harming uninvolved countries in response to an attack by China would be blamed on China by more than the lizard-man constant. I don't take any assignment of moral blame to the U.S. seriously because the U.S. is always held responsible for everything.

Interesting. Who do you suppose most people blame for the atomic bombing of Japan?

When it comes right down to it, America is the one who went in and started killing people and blowing things up.

Where was Europe's plan for preventing Iranian nuclearization? Did they care at all or accept it as a fait accompli?

If America were actually in really serious trouble as a result of outside aggression, we would do what we could to help our ally if asked, and I hope the reverse is also true.

Nobody I know honestly believes this, or at best, believes "what we could do" would amount to fuck all.

We are not burning your house down, but possibly we aren't going to put out the fire out of deference to you any more.