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PLEASE GO STAND BY THE STAIRS

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I can definitely say that any LE shooting someone who is restrained and is not pointing a gun at someone is outside of it is outside of it.

By that rubric, if I yell "I'm going to shoot you!" and point something that is an exact facsimile of a gun at a police officer but isn't, and they shoot me, that is incompetent on their part, even though it would require psychic powers on their behalf to know the difference.

I think the problem here is that you seem to very much want to remove any subjectivity from the rubric, but this is just logically impossible without leading to absurd outcomes like the above. Subjectivity requires us to examine things like, even if there was no gun, did they believe there was? If so, why? Was that belief reasonable even if incorrect? If not, just how unreasonable was it? In this case, it hinges on factors like what the person may have said, how they may have acted, whether or not an accidental discharge took place, etc. These factors would determine whether criminal charges are appropriate, if so which ones, and whether and which workplace disciplinary actions would be appropriate.

Yes. It's adjacent to "hiding one's power level", as even if you have some political beliefs, you understand there's nothing positive that can be accomplished by talking about them in social situations. And in many cases, simply choosing to talk about it less actually causes you to care less, and happiness increases as a result.

I don't know, but that's at least relevant information.

Whether this charge is actually true can be debated separately, with no reference to Pretti's character or past actions.

This is not correct. If you're trying to assess the reasonableness of an officer's belief that someone's actions created an fear of imminent death or great bodily harm, you would have to take into account knowledge about that person's behavior and past actions that the officer actually possessed at the time of the decision point.

The central problem remains: it doesn't matter what the law says, if future administrations decide to not enforce it.

I thought their home country refused them, as would be sensible for known criminals

I always heard in the US it was due to the huge surplus of Union Army uniform elements after the end of the Civil War when professional police forces were getting organized.