sleepyegg
6hr ago
Seems unworkable because while the process and technology is sound, the main barrier is individual lack of planning. Suppose you made IVF 100% subsidized and free, you still have to convince young women to undergo an invasive surgical procedure. Many women would probably delay it until it was too late to be worth doing. Countries like Israel which make heavy use of IVF have religious-cultural-social pressure for young women to bear children, so the women are more likely to freeze their eggs early.
Still, there would be some takers for free or partially subsidized IVF. Just need to convince the voting public it is worth the cost, a benefit for future generations that will not generate direct benefits for them.
sleepyegg
12hr ago
Solving infertility by supporting aging couples probably leads to increased genetic flaws in the general population over time. A sort of procrastination of dealing with the issue directly.
Whatever solution to bring up young women's fertility will involve older women policing the behavior of younger women, through a combination of carrots and sticks. It's the only way any religions or subcultures maintain high TFR.
sleepyegg
13hr ago
Oh yeah I did. I noticed after posting he said in a different comment chain that dairy was too expensive but at least the ants avoided it and that the eggs were not enough.
I have to believe this is some kind of troll at this point though, I don't think any real person seriously considers eating only bread and livestock lysine pills as a reasonable and thrifty way to live. But in the remote chance this isn't a troll then it's good we encourage him not to accidentally kill himself from radical nutrition lifehacks.
I guess there was always some guy eating weird things to test them as safe for everyone else, or else human society would not enjoy the unusual and tasty things we have today. Look at this mushroom Trog, it's totally tasty and not poisonous at all! Avoid those green ones though.
sleepyegg
13hr ago
He said there was no access to soy nearby. Dairy was expensive? And eggs were insufficient?
sleepyegg
17hr ago
Are you living in the US? Dairy is relatively cheap here, not subject to sales tax, and likely subsidized in the form of input feed subsidies.
Sorry, I assumed you were employed already but short on time. Learning to earn money is also a high priority.
Pre-cut meat products do expire quickly, but they usually last in the chilled portion of the fridge around 3-5 days at optimal freshness, unless the source is bad. National US supermarket chains without in-store butchers (centralized slaughterhouses) have problems with quickly expiring meat. I cook beef and chicken with only salt added and no spicing, so meat close to spoiling is easier to detect.
Without a working freezer, your options for saving money on food by taking advantage of deals is much more limited. You also will have difficulty storing precooked meals and raw ingredients, so I understand your difficulties.
Are you renting or owning a home independently? Or is it a situation where you are renting a room from a live-in landlord, who limits your kitchen use and freezer use as part of your rental contract? I have done the latter, and as a student with just a room you still have options.
The very best no-cooking heat allowed option is whey protein shakes. I am lactose intolerant so I used to mix my shakes with lactose-free milk and took lactase pills. You can mix whey with plain water too, it just tastes much worse. Whey protein is arguably superior to meat, the somewhat unpleasant taste of unflavored whey is the main hurdle. You can buy big 5 lb jugs of flavored or unflavored whey protein online and search for the best deals. You mix protein shakes with water in a blender bottle, or a cup and a fork if you can tolerate lumpy clumps of unmixed powdered whey. Whey shakes are a complete protein and extremely satiating, you will have no problems with hunger. Cost-wise whey may seem more expensive than bread but you need much less whey to feel satisfied so it may be a cost savings depending how much you are spending on bread.
What kind of bread are you currently buying? US supermarket presliced white bread? Or are you a customer of a local bakery? How much are you spending on bread every week?
And on the poor human gut absorption of vitamins and amino acids in pill form, I mention it not specifically about your intended lysine use but for nutrition in general. It may or may not apply to lysine, I don't know about that. I only know that bodybuilders usually dislike "wasting" time on cooking but even they will not use single amino acids pills for nutriton because it delivers suboptimal results at best, and in the worst-case scenario you will find yourself paying an expensive ambulance and emergency room medical bill.
Following the gay guy analogy, what if the gay guy posted on a forum asking why everyone assumed he was bi or straight even though he checked every gay guy stereotype? He said he was annoyed everyone kept telling him to get married to a woman - he was so gay that he couldn't even walk in a straight line!
He did confess that despite all this, he might actually be attracted to some women, some of the time. My advice to this gay guy would be to try and date some women again, and maybe he could finally figure out his gayness or lack thereof. Even if women had never worked out for him in his entire flaming life, maybe he was just unlucky all along or something. But if he didn't feel like dating women again, that was okay too. Some gay guys just have straight-conformity anxiety, and it will probably never go away.
If you have the time, I highly recommend learning to cook. You will save money, improve your health, and learn a skill valued by everyone around you (might be culture dependent, YMMV).
A complete protein has all the amino acids your body cannot create itself from base ingredients like the glucose in bread. Prolonged deprivation of complete proteins will weaken your body and mind. The good news is that you can get complete protein meals easily by eating meat, milk, or eggs. Air fryer steaks, drink milk, boil eggs. Very easy to do, tasty, but more expensive.
You can also do this as a vegetarian but it takes more effort and you will need to invest more time learning to cook. Beans need soaking, vegetables need washing and cutting, etc. It can work well but needs some attention to pairing complementary sources of amino acids, like beans and rice.
Some nutrients are not absorbed well in human digestion in pill form. There may be genetic variance and/or gut microbiome issues with taking concentrated vitamin or amino acid pills. You may try to compensate for poor nutrient absorption by overdosing and risk poisoning yourself.
The reliable way to get nutrients is to eat real food cooked yourself so you can be assured of the taste and quality. There is no shortcut here, unless you have a trusted family member prepare food for you.
I was lucky enough to have my mom prepare home cooked meals for me growing up. I didn't understand that I was lucky until I lived alone and ate a lot of empty starch like bread and instant noodles. I permanently ruined my health doing a few years of this until I learned to cook a little bit. I just tried to poorly imitate some of my mom's simpler meals at first, but gradually developed my own style.
If cost is an issue, you should pay attention to weekly supermarket ads which usually have a rotating selection of discounted but fresh meats. You can use plastic freezer bags to buy meat cheaply in bulk and save it for cooking later.
Early romances like you describe, which start out fiery but often end quickly are exactly the kind of experience you can't get while being homeschooled until college. It's practice in romance. Separately, flirting practice is important too.
There are also fiery romances in college, but the expected social knowledge about romance is higher as everyone is older and usually more experienced. Women can get away with being completely inexperienced, in fact many men prefer an innocent maiden. Inexperienced men are just seen as clumsy, like a partner leading a dance who keeps stepping on your foot and elbowing you in the face.
My high school was relatively packed at 2500+ students, I never got the chance to know most of them. I had about 5 or 6 classes and different people each semester, so YMMV. For guys, there's always a fresh crop of freshman girls for the incoming class each year. There were at least 3 junior high schools feeding into my high school.
I agree high school isn't great, but the alternative is college with no practice or hard lessons learned before that. College for me was a "whew, this is a chance to start fresh" opportunity that I did much better in after applying the failures in high school. Sexual access for men is competitive, why hamstring ugly sons for no reason.
sleepyegg
2d ago
For my friend's cousin, I tried to point out to her what a mess of her life she was making by working at the strip club. Initially she was just a cashier/hostess but she was obviously being groomed to be a stripper. I wasn't successful in pointing this out though, and I was also not willing to take on the big brother or dad role she obviously needed. I had my own issues to fix at the time.
Makes sense. Women do good with an older brother figure, especially if the dad is checked out or otherwise absent. That she was allowed to even party hard in the first place makes it seem as if one or both of her parents were not that involved in her education.
My friend's cousin in the strip club, her dad killed himself early on in her life and her mom is also a party girl. There was no older male relative to have her back, so her life got messed up. Last time I saw her she was clearly on meth and dropped out of a full scholarship in state college to strip for a customer base of lonely, desperate men. The men she met there were mostly of low quality (gamblers, dealers, etc), and the higher quality men were not looking for something long term with her.
sleepyegg
2d ago
That's a very sensible explaination. I figure for those in religious communities, they figure they can help arrange an early marriage to a girl from a good family. If the parents can deliver on that then there's no problem for the boy.
I don't see how parents not tied to any religious or cultural association plan to have things work out for their boy though, if he's not naturally a tall handsome charmer. They may be copying the religious homeschoolers actions with only a part of the whole plan.
Just curious then, why help her at all? Does enabling a family member who partied all year and asks for your help the night before on an important paper seem like it would be good for her in the long run? What would be the worst case scenario for her without help, being expelled from her high school or repeating her grade level?
It seems you reinforced a lesson that lying and plagarism can make up for a consistent work ethic? And that when she gets caught she should double down in denial no matter how obvious the deception?
The inability to pronounce genes is just terribly funny though.
sleepyegg
2d ago
The 529 can be used to pay rent so it's quite incredible. Enroll in virtual classes half time, pay with tax advantaged savings.
sleepyegg
2d ago
I have to ask, in hindsight, were you trying to fail your cousin? Because it's pretty funny.
You were in high school but also homeschooled? Wouldn't that make you not homeschooled?
I do agree that success begets success, assuming you were aware of the real reasons for success and not misattributing success to other reasons like "being a nice guy". But failure does not always beget failure. There is a type of crippling rejection failure that can be damaging, but it can also be viewed as a learning experience, like "that which does not kill me makes me stronger".
sleepyegg
2d ago
Ah, I thought your cousin faked a reasonable accomodation need with so much determination he used a hospital bed as a prop.
I was really respecting his hustle! Too bad (in both ways) it was actually malaria.
sleepyegg
2d ago
Well said, I have had similar experiences. And I believe it is never good to be a backup man and/or piggy bank, but most men tire of it as they age and see the orbital relationship for what it is. My friend's female cousin is an absolute man eater, to the detriment of every man she lures in and to her own life. Predictably, she works in a strip club, has no dad, and was raised by grandma. She has many, many orbitals.
sleepyegg
2d ago
No, I think you are preaching to the choir here, I do believe female-female friendships are more shallow compared to male-male friendships. It's why I think HereAndGone2 has trouble finding friendships worth sustaining, there are too few fish in the pond worth the effort.
For a man, it's hard for him to develop confidence with taking the lead with women unless he gets to practice it in an environment with plentiful women. As a short, conventionally unattractive man, I had to work hard on improving my body and conversational skills to speak to women. This involved trying and failing many times. Women thought I was weird. I mean, I'm commenting here on the Motte so you know I'm already at least a bit autistic, and talking to women did not come naturally at all.
Homeschool would have been the social death of me I think, but I can't say that with certainty. If I was tall and/or more conventionally good looking, it wouldn't have mattered because I would have had more easy chances to socialize with women anyway. Women are easy to talk to with practice, but the opportunities to practice depend on your social environment (home schooled or not) and your physical looks (can be innate or self-improved).
So, my recommendation is that short, somewhat autistic boys should not be homeschooled unless you want them to have little chance for them to be seen as a suitable mate for women. If they are tall or good looking though, then homeschool is perfectly fine because the women will come naturally later.
Does homeschool education work well, in your experience? I'm assuming you're a man, did decreased female contact make things harder when you decided to date or marry? I feel homeschool works out worse for boys unless they have a church or equivalent social area to mingle with. Moms can teach you how to be nice be not how to get into a woman's pants. Dads can only do it indirectly by example, through Mom.
sleepyegg
2d ago
Think you meant female-female friendships in the end of your first paragraph. I may be personally have grown up around many self-centered women, because I noted the female-female friendships seemed shallow without much work put in either direction. Hard to tell though from the outside. This is mostly an observation of my female relatives and former classmates.
Well, I'd vote for $10k subsidies, but good luck to any politican who tries to get the public behind it. There would probably be serious opposition from women too old to benefit from it, and it would be reframed as a form of neo-patriarchal enslavement of wombs.
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