sun_the_second
could survive a COD lobby and a gay furry discord server
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sun_the_second
could survive a COD lobby and a gay furry discord server
11mo ago
I'm reminded of a cranky user from /r/learnjavascript who was like "you don't need any library, not a single one, everything can be done in standard JS". From my understanding, this works as long as you're the only one maintaining your own code.
sun_the_second
could survive a COD lobby and a gay furry discord server
11mo ago
The planes fly, don't they?
sun_the_second
could survive a COD lobby and a gay furry discord server
11mo ago
On the other hand, when I rely on having precise knowledge of what someone is doing, I'd prefer them to state the technical truth and nothing but the technical truth, rather than make shit up.
sun_the_second
could survive a COD lobby and a gay furry discord server
11mo ago
I think someone who sees "if we Republicans can't win at the ballot box we should grab our guns and start shooting" is right to be worried that the shooting will be not entirely discriminate.
You live in a village and hear a young passionate man with a red band on his arm state they'll only expropriate the needed share of corn from only the lazy bloodsuckers who exploit others. How confident are you?
sun_the_second
could survive a COD lobby and a gay furry discord server
11mo ago
I'm sure civil war will respect all of those fine details you specified.
If you want to discuss, then discuss. "DAE just start shooting is the only choice here?" is only technically discussion.
sun_the_second
could survive a COD lobby and a gay furry discord server
11mo ago
The next time you see blue tribe normies freaking out that Trumpists literally want to murder them all, remember that it's not just the top-down Democrat propaganda that made them think that. You contributed.
sun_the_second
could survive a COD lobby and a gay furry discord server
11mo ago
You’re acting as though getting falsely accused of shoplifting is something that happens to middle-class white people all the time. How likely do you actually think that scenario is? I’ve gone my entire life without ever being accused of shoplifting.
Is this meant to imply that we should accept low-class nonwhite people being falsely accused, because they're not us?
sun_the_second
could survive a COD lobby and a gay furry discord server
11mo ago
How would they do that?
sun_the_second
could survive a COD lobby and a gay furry discord server
11mo ago
What are the investments to make if one believes that Trumpworld will arrive in 50 years? Given that few seem to really believe it, it should make bank if true.
sun_the_second
could survive a COD lobby and a gay furry discord server
11mo ago
Without licensing, how can an average homeowner tell the difference between a plumber whose work will catastrophically fail in 6 months and one whose work is unlikely to do that?
sun_the_second
could survive a COD lobby and a gay furry discord server
11mo ago
You don't really expect people to outright say "damn that Trump, why is he so appealing?" even that's what they feel, do you?
I expect people to say "damn those republicans, why are they so easy to appeal to with what does not appeal to us". Which people do say.
This is completely backwards. There is no evidence she has spent a single day working in McDonalds. It's Trump who's honest here because his "lie" is just advertising, and everybody knows how it works. Kamala is the dishonest one, because people (including you) actually believe she made a factual statement about herself.
This is also how we know people upset at this aren't upset at dishonesty or stolen valor...
I suppose you're right here. I'm not so much criticizing Trump, I'm just incensed that it's working. The way I see it, fool me once means shame on you. But fool me twice, thrice, a million times, and you're an "honest liar" and we're supposed to regard you as someone so detached from truth that it's not even in question whether anyone is actually being deceived.
According to some sources, there is (or was, back when conscription was 2 years and dedovschina was more prevalent) a similar role reversal day in some Russian army bases among conscripts, where the "older" conscripts took on the roles of the novice ones. According to the same sources, this role reversal was not very humbling - none of the novices would dare to subject the "granddads" to the same tribulations they were subjected to, because the next day everything would be back to normal.
I don't know if the slaves in Rome were much consoled by Saturnalian symbolic role reversal. Did they have the presence of mind to think "the master will just go back to his usual oppressive self tomorrow"? Perhaps. Could they state it out loud?
If my leaders are going to put on airs of being worldly, I want them to keep the pretense up for more than one day a year.
sun_the_second
could survive a COD lobby and a gay furry discord server
11mo ago
but they'll be drowned out by legions that are upset that Trump did something mildly appealing to the common folk.
Where are those legions who express the belief that it is unbefitting of Trump to appeal to the common folk (as opposed to saying it's wrong to falsely appeal)? I've linked mine.
"Of those service workers whose viewpoint I do see on Reddit" had to pass through so many filters that it will bear no resemblance to any remotely normal person. Reddit is a propaganda platform.
What's your platform that is not a propaganda platform?
The only visceral feeling I get here
Here on the Motte? If not, then where?
I agree with other users that it's a clever publicity stunt, in that it will work with his base and the opposing base, naturally, is irrelevant to him. It's also bad, in my personal opinion, because it's transparently dishonest to associate yourself with menial work that you do not do and have never (in my knowledge) done. If Kamala is acting like her time at McDonalds was a nightmare, she's at least being honest even if she'll alienate the voters (likely red-voting anyway) who think menial work is always ennobling.
sun_the_second
could survive a COD lobby and a gay furry discord server
11mo ago
but no one who's freaking out about it seems to be credibly approaching it from the "stolen valor" angle.
No one? Not one single person on planet Earth? Well sure then.
What's your definition of "someone"?
Do you think /r/antiwork is in any way representative of a typical McDonald's worker?
Well no, I think a typical worker in service industry or any other low-paid job posts on TikTok, not Reddit. Of those service workers whose viewpoint I do see on Reddit, or for example on various discords, they're closer to /r/antiwork in their ideology than to "it's 'onest work".
This isn't about The Motte. It's one of those things that has visceral resonance, and the more you push back against it, the more it will look like Trump had a point to begin with.
Unfortunately, our visceral resonances seem to be at odds.
There's definitely a stolen valor angle. "Kamala had actually worked there while Trump never had a day of retail work in his life". Do you think upper PMC democrats are the ones posting on Reddit about the entire thing being a sham?
McDonalds is the most well-known public-facing minimum wage job, but I don't doubt there'd be stolen valor vitriol over CostCo too.
To me it looks like there's a huge disconnect between themotte's view of a typical democrat voter and reality. Just off the top of my head I'd assume there are more low socioeconomic class "that's why I shit on company time" democrat voters in the country than upper class "mcdonalds is too good for presidents" snobs.
sun_the_second
could survive a COD lobby and a gay furry discord server
11mo ago
They use the same rhetoric where they want to educate homogenous nationalistic citizens, if that makes you feel better.
sun_the_second
could survive a COD lobby and a gay furry discord server
11mo ago
Recreation is not a valid use? Why? We have a long list to go through if we just start crossing off anything that's not at the bottom of the Maslow pyramid.
sun_the_second
could survive a COD lobby and a gay furry discord server
11mo ago
The Society of Critical Care Medicine and the World Health Organization are top authorities who disagree with that.
They do? Good to know! Next time I go volunteering to Gaza, I'll make sure to trust those top authorities and not the Hamas militants next to me.
sun_the_second
could survive a COD lobby and a gay furry discord server
11mo ago
Also, I was under the impression the most fanatically religious Jews were exempt from conscription, or at least try very hard to avoid military service.
sun_the_second
could survive a COD lobby and a gay furry discord server
11mo ago
"Willing to stick with it" does not sound as impressive when you're just funding the work, not personally putting your nose to the grinder 12 hours a day. And maybe Musk does put his nose to the grinder, but I don't see him doing that. I see him posting midwit takes on twitter.
He needs a PR team to tell him what to do to look more like the modern Tony Stark and less like, well, Trump.
sun_the_second
could survive a COD lobby and a gay furry discord server
11mo ago
Is "directionally true" the new buzzword that means "actually not correct, but we wish it was"? Might as well say Johnny's answer to a math problem being "three billion" is "directionally true" when the real answer is "five". It's totally meaningless.
sun_the_second
could survive a COD lobby and a gay furry discord server
11mo ago
"I want a civic ritual that will unite all of us"
"No, not like that!"
sun_the_second
could survive a COD lobby and a gay furry discord server
11mo ago
The sentiment is that those Native Americans were more like each other than Europeans and Natives were like each other, and the internal affairs of Natives are, quite literally, different than an invasion from beyond the sea.
Ironically, the interruptions of the storyline are the worst thing about this supposedly backbreaking wageslave job.
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