crushedoranges
Can Marx explain the used panties market?
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crushedoranges
Can Marx explain the used panties market?
2d ago
Because you're sniffing your own farts.
Because I have a whole library worth of janny cracks if you're going to start insulting the users. I've been holding back, because I am a well mannered boy, but if you're going to break that gentleman's agreement then I don't have a reason to hold back. I assume that because of this precedent, I can volley back and make predictions about the moderators in general?
crushedoranges
Can Marx explain the used panties market?
2d ago
If I was offended, you'd know it: I have a medly of mauve, a profusion of plum, a violence of violet for those who get my goat.
I'm tired of limp-wristed passive-aggressive talk from people that should know better. If you have an argument: present an argument. If not, fuck off.
crushedoranges
Can Marx explain the used panties market?
2d ago
I don't appreciate you casting such an allegation to everyone here. Recently, magickittycat called me a fascist: what you're doing here is approximately N x (number of users) worse.
crushedoranges
Can Marx explain the used panties market?
3d ago
No, there is one screen: Hasan's defenders telling us to not trust our lying eyes. There is some merit to the post-truth era but this one is not it. How can you claim it to be two screens if you've never seen it for yourself?
crushedoranges
Can Marx explain the used panties market?
3d ago
It's not just a video. When you livestream your life, it's impossible to hide what you do and who you are. Is the outrage fueled by partisans who hated him to begin with? Yes. But that doesn't diminish the fact that it happened. Lorenz is not speaking truth to power, but is a proxy defending her master in the LA streaming scene after he changed his story too often to be credible.
crushedoranges
Can Marx explain the used panties market?
4d ago
Everyone involved in the production of alcohol is productive: anything else is a luxury good that can be cut in times of austerity. Of course, you need a military to defend your distilleries, a road network to connect those distilleries to hops and barley farms, as well as to their final markets. Maybe a bauxite mine to get the aluminium to can it all. And then a tax collecting scheme to ensure that those militaries are paid. Oh, and I suppose all those beermakers, soldiers, farmers, and miners need wives, too. So we'll need a few women around.
With those necessary individuals, civilization can be preserved.
crushedoranges
Can Marx explain the used panties market?
6d ago
Japanese emperors in a certain period would abdicate to gain more power, and the current ruling Emperor would be just a puppet.
crushedoranges
Can Marx explain the used panties market?
6d ago
Hanania is the Ibram X Kendi of white people.
crushedoranges
Can Marx explain the used panties market?
7d ago
Mea culpa, I did not phrase it very well and your read was completely understandable.
crushedoranges
Can Marx explain the used panties market?
8d ago
I'm not going to say it doesn't work, but robbing your movement of authenticity by commanding it from the top-down is a tactical play for long-term strategic disadvantage. Most reactionaries have accepted that gay marriage is beyond the reach of even the most right-wing of policy while trans is an issue they can hammer forever.
crushedoranges
Can Marx explain the used panties market?
8d ago
Do you actually have an argument, though, or is it a boneless 'return to the noble losers that you used to be' kind of rhetoric?
crushedoranges
Can Marx explain the used panties market?
8d ago
It always amused me how comically small the bribes American politicians took in exchange for compromising their integrity, but perhaps that reflected that it was a buyer's market. Paying tens of thousands to influence the spending of billions has a ROI that no legitimate investment could ever match.
crushedoranges
Can Marx explain the used panties market?
11d ago
I will buy panties from you - if you wear them in a manner that is confirmable by a third party, for a long enough period of time for them to be noticably soiled - at a price that the market will bear.
crushedoranges
Can Marx explain the used panties market?
11d ago
You're evading the question.
The value of eighteen year old nubiles underwear is trivially answered with Subjective Theory of Value, because there are a lot more men who want to buy panties over anyone else wanting to buy a man's boxers. Trying to reduce it to labor is not only nonsensical, in this case: it's meaningless.
And you can do this for pretty much anything you can imagine. Why is a Stradavarius more valuable than any other violin? Why is a signed First Edition book worth more than a reprint? You can't dodge into 'socially necessary labor' - because who defines that? Who measures it?
In every material sense, these goods are no different from other commodities of a similar nature, identical in function and content. But one is worth much more than the other. Where does this value come from?
To admit that there is a subjective value to commodities is to dismantle the entire Marxist argument. Why should a blind person's art be worth less than a Da Vinci? What is the natural talent of a eighteen year old girl to wear underwear? Your examples crumble under the least scrutiny.
It is human beings who decide what the value of things are. And if you still argue against this, what's the value of a bitcoin on a desert island? A bar of gold? Where does the labor come?
crushedoranges
Can Marx explain the used panties market?
12d ago
Our old friend Impassionata is far more likely a suspect: crossposted over there. https://rdrama.net/post/403216/themotte-catches-darwin2500-in-the-act
To be honest, I enjoy a dishonest shit-stirrer, if only as a vaccination against bad arguments. It solidifies my political convictions, if anything.
crushedoranges
Can Marx explain the used panties market?
13d ago
No, you can speak for me. It's fine.
crushedoranges
Can Marx explain the used panties market?
13d ago
I was the one who wrote the Hasan post and nowhere in it did I allege that Democrats approved of or condoned such behaviour. Twitch drama may be lowbrow, but it is undoubtedly culture war. Hasan's bad behaviour - not just rhetoric, mind you - reflects only on himself.
crushedoranges
Can Marx explain the used panties market?
13d ago
You want to call all of the right wing Nazis, so that doesn't make me particularly special in that regard. Give me some credit. I'm not stupid. Obviously you made this post not out of a desire for sincere debate but to tar every Republican as a Nazi by association.
So call me a Nazi if you'd like. So what? What does that change? What should a hot-blooded American do to a Nazi? Tell me what you're darkly hinting at.
There is no symmetry to this, because you could be openly and without hesitation be a communist and still be in polite society. Hell, you could get tenure. Do you know of any explicitly fascist professors in American academia? Is there a organization of fascists in similar scale to the DSA, heck, the Communist Party of the United States of America?
No. There was a cordon sanitaire that was working very well until leftists started to abuse it to push social and economic conservatives out of the overton window. There is no red scare in the modern day that is comparable to the brown: your argument is basically 'no u' with a bit of effort. Communist is not a slur in the same way fascist is. It should be - given how much atrocity has been committed in the name of class warfare - but it isn't. And you know it is.
Yes, it's a big problem, and it's your fault. To be specific, it's the left's fault for calling everyone they disagreed with a Nazi. They called Bush a Nazi. They called McCain an Nazi. They called Mitt Romney a Nazi. They even called Trump a Nazi (how a unashamedly pro-Zionist figure such as him could be is beyond me.) The sum total of all your pearl clutching and ad hominems is that actual Nazis have snuck back into the Overton window.
The very understandable reaction: "fuck it, you're calling me a Nazi, I might as well be one."
So stop using it as a slur against milquetoast social conservatives and Christians, for fuck's sake. You, and people like you, have welcomed the browns back into the political discourse because they are the only ones who have the steel in their spines to tell you to go to hell. And boy, do they look strong in telling liberals and wokes to fuck off. An entire generation of young men thinks it's cool to give you and those like you the middle finger.
What you can do to stop the Nazi menace is to stop calling people to the right of Stalin Nazis. You, in fact, possess the agency to turn down the heat. The left have purged all of the people that could be coerced with shame: now, only the shameless remain. Why are you so surprised at this? Why do you come here and post these links - which amount to insinuating that your political opposition are Nazis? I've never heard of that one before. Don't you see that your actions are counterproductive?
You don't say the devil's name because you tempt him to come. Now he is here.
crushedoranges
Can Marx explain the used panties market?
15d ago
You're not beating the logs-in-eyes allegations. None of anything you said would reflect on how Arabs would treat Jews in a hypothetical one-state solution. The evidence we do have is from the expulsion of Mizrahim from all Arab countries to Israel - a pogrom you blame on Zionism. But they didn't do anything for Israel. They were completely innocent in the matter, but they were expelled and had their property confiscated anyway.
That was, undeniably, ethnic cleansing at the least. Genocide, if you stretch it. And you deny it so pithily, with a single sentence. As if the actions of Jews in Judea and Samaria reflected upon them as a whole.
Why should I trust you accusing Israel of genocide when you downplay the Arab one?
crushedoranges
Can Marx explain the used panties market?
15d ago
Having weak and marginal Jews in your community that paid the dhimmi tax and that you could coerce the beautiful daughters into Islam is nothing like brotherhood, unless you want to tell me that the European ghettos were similar exemplars of tolerance and understanding. The Jews don't want to be dhimmi. No one wants to be a non-Muslim subject in a Islamic country if they can help it. Even the most tolerant Palestinian wants the Jews to live in a box outside of the holy places and be milked for taxes by the bridge troll.
I'm sorry, but your historical read is just wrong. The leftist perspective is simply delusional: too focused, as it were, in the splinters in others eyes to mind the logs in theirs. Your romanticization of Muslim tolerance is historical revisionism at best.
Cultural Marxism is a demonstrable thing, unless you believe that culture is some sort of fungus that shows up on economies. What do you think Homo Sovietcus was, anyway? Only orthodox Marxists care to elevate their dogma as some sort of materialist science of history, which it obviously isn't and has failed on its falsifiable claims over and over. Late-stage capitalism has come and gone like so many proclamations of the Rapture.
Wokism is the bastard child of communism, and the connection strengthens in spite of strenuous denials of paternity. People realized you could substitute historical materialism for any other sort of intersectional nonsense. They could add infinite categories to the class-based analysis to suit their own purposes. As an active heresy and schism of the left it remains after Communism itself discredited its own legitimacy over a hundred years. They even claim to be communists themselves!
This was birthed from intellectuals on the left. History didn't stop with Kapital. Pay the damn child support - with words, if not action.
crushedoranges
Can Marx explain the used panties market?
19d ago
The simplest explanation is that yes, corporations can gain such scale and power that paying the CEO 100 million dollars makes sense in a free market economy. Corporate officers are merely the highest-paid employees in a corporate structure and their salaries are not fixed by a mysterious cabal. If a board of directors could pay them less, they would and could. The ability and talent to grow a firm is rare: you can't hire Steve Jobs and Elon Musks off the street, and even if you can, you have to pay them for the opportunity cost of them not going off and pursuing their own ventures.
The problem is that low impulse control people say "Ha, I'm not like those other idiots" and then mag dump at IHOP.
The truth is, you don't know who you are, deep down inside, until your life is on the line. A rational well meaning person that operates 99.9% of the time in a rational and logical manner can turn into a bloodthirsty animal in the outlier. Most Americans do not find themselves in such a situation in a daily basis.
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