cjet79
Anarcho Capitalist on moral grounds
Libertarian Minarchist on economic grounds
User ID: 124
cjet79
7hr ago
I felt like too much of a druggie taking caffeine pills. Tea doesn't have much flavor and certainly not enough caffeine. Downing enough soda or energy drinks to get my caffeine fix seemed much more unhealthy than coffee.
I buy cold brew from the store. Its just the least bitter coffee drink I've managed to find. And again, when im done with mixing things in, it barely tastes like coffee.
cjet79
7hr ago
EVE online was somewhat similar. Lot of activities in it were time gated and required you to be paying attention but didn't require you to actively do anything. So socializing with a group of people that were all paying attention was perfect.
cjet79
17hr ago
I think the first point is wrong, gamers respond to incentives, and you need to worry about attracting the right people in the first place. And a game with betrayal mechanics will attract gamers that want to betray.
I think what is needed is downtime. A time and place for people to just talk and shoot the shit. Hopefully while doing something fun or productive feeling. Humans are naturally social creatures, they just need a space for it to happen.
cjet79
18hr ago
I thought the coffee haters would be for people that actually hate coffee, not people that like coffee enough to be picky about it.
I'm an actual coffee hater. I dislike bitter flavors. The cold brew coffee I drink I mask behind a vanilla creamer.
cjet79
2d ago
I see a report of a comment and I usually check the list of past warnings / bans / AAQCs. Yours is just a long list of crap comments. No AAQCs. Looking through your comment history its just nothing interesting or substantial. I could sum up your stance on every issue as "we should defect harder". With a 4channers sense of what is appropriate, so sometimes you'll suggest things like murdering the wife and children of the healthcare CEO that was killed.
I really don't think this place is right for you. I think you should leave and there is nothing here for you. Your occasional rule-breaking is redeemed by nothing so I don't think we should have to put up with modding you. This comment and most of your other rule breaking violations are not enough to justify a permaban. So this will be a 30-day ban and I'll add a note to have future bans also be a minimum of 30 days.
https://www.themotte.org/post/3128/culture-war-roundup-for-the-week/364212?context=8#context https://www.themotte.org/post/2368/culture-war-roundup-for-the-week/355052?context=8#context https://www.themotte.org/post/1841/culture-war-roundup-for-the-week/319738?context=8#context https://www.themotte.org/post/1277/culture-war-roundup-for-the-week/274640?context=8#context https://www.themotte.org/post/1249/culture-war-roundup-for-the-week/269389?context=8#context https://www.themotte.org/post/1100/culture-war-roundup-for-the-week/236406?context=8#context https://www.themotte.org/post/1087/culture-war-roundup-for-the-week/232497?context=8#context
- 6 others
cjet79
2d ago
Ha that's what I heard. Sadly my wife got hit hard too, which is the hardest to deal with when both of us are sick and still have three active kids to take care of.
cjet79
3d ago
Mine usually only last a day or two anyways. I'll try a saline rinse in a day if it seems worse. Got a little better today.
cjet79
3d ago
I've been sick for four weeks at this point. I'm finally seeing a light at the end of the tunnel.
First it was some kind of flu or cold, which turned into just a lingering runny nose, but then that turned into bronchitis. During that time my family and I all got lice. Now I have a tongue ulcer that makes it painful to eat or cough.
Talking and laughing lead to more coughing so I've been avoiding both for about three weeks.
It's just low-grade misery. I'm so done with it. Want my health back.
cjet79
4d ago
So the policy suggestion you have is "never be vaguely in front of a vehicle with its engine on"
That is too restrictive and I can't imagine trying to follow that rule in practice without basically giving up anytime anyone brings a car to disrupt your operations.
cjet79
4d ago
Oh no! Too much empathy! Too much due process! What horrific threats to the stability of the country! How pesky.
Knock off the sarcasm, its not conducive to discussion.
cjet79
5d ago
This is too low effort / antagonistic.
I'll only do a 5-day ban. I know you are capable of quality contributions. Try to do more like that rather than your 14 other warnings or bans for bad stuff. (jesus how fucking lenient have we become with shitty posters). I'm gonna suggest a more lengthy ban next time, maybe a few months or permanently.
https://www.themotte.org/post/3442/culture-war-roundup-for-the-week/398451?context=8#context
https://www.themotte.org/post/3359/culture-war-roundup-for-the-week/382800?context=8#context
https://www.themotte.org/post/2254/culture-war-roundup-for-the-week/348024?context=8#context
https://www.themotte.org/post/2015/culture-war-roundup-for-the-week/331751?context=8#context
https://www.themotte.org/post/1913/culture-war-roundup-for-the-week/326801?context=8#context
https://www.themotte.org/post/1860/culture-war-roundup-for-the-week/323664?context=8#context
https://www.themotte.org/post/1860/culture-war-roundup-for-the-week/323664?context=8#context
etc.
cjet79
5d ago
I think many of the good things came from hope and misunderstandings. I'm atheist and I realize exactly how many of our founding fathers were christian in their beliefs and behavior (approximately 100%). I don't know why it is necessary to believe in a Christian god to value human life, but it seems to be an objective truth of reality for most people.
cjet79
5d ago
Report a post and move on if you think it breaks the rules. Do not respond in kind.
I'll give leniency in this situation because @EverythingIsFine did the same shit.
Your punishment (or reward if you choose to view it that way) is that you are not to engage with @EverythingIsFinein this subthread.
This will be mirrorred for @EverythingIsFine.
cjet79
5d ago
Report a post and move on if you think it breaks the rules. Do not respond in kind.
I'll give leniency in this situation because @theSinisterMushroom did the same shit.
Your punishment (or reward if you choose to view it that way) is that you are not to engage with @theSinisterMushroom in this subthread.
This will be mirrorred for @theSinisterMushroom.
cjet79
5d ago
Honestly, transcripts are annoying. They are not your words, and we can't speak directly to the person who said the words. I chose specifically not to address the transcript in my comments, and mostly just addressed your commentary.
cjet79
5d ago
Not if you split up the states!
I say that only semi-jokingly. But I'd love for an incentive to exist that splits up states into smaller entities. America is just getting too large to govern effectively.
cjet79
5d ago
:sadface:
Too true it hurts.
A few more months and this experiment will turn 250 years old. In terms of the age of nations, pretty young. Divine right of kinds definitely seems to have more longevity. I think the world has at least enjoyed some of the fruits of this experiment. Common law has had slightly more hold in this country than in others. Self defense is at least a legally defensible concept in the US, rather than an admission of guilt as it is in Europe.
cjet79
5d ago
Even the ultimate defensive weapon could easily be used to commit the very commonly recognized crime of false imprisonment.
occurs when one person intentionally restrains another in a way that confines the individual within a bounded area without consent or legal authority.
Imagine impenetrable shield. It cannot hurt anyone. But it also cannot be bypassed. A person with this this shield could surround another person and prevent them from going where they want. This would be textbook false imprisonment.
And it seems exactly what she intended to do to ICE agents. Physically confine them to a bounded area without consent or legal authority.
cjet79
5d ago
You are likely right that I'm underestimating the demographic impacts of the situation. I'm always looking at the actions of individuals. I did write a post a while back that I mostly ignore race as an information category.
I will say that there is some uniqueness in this ICE situation where people have been using vehicles to obstruct ICE. It's definitely not the first time people have tried to obstruct vehicles. But usually it's human bodies vs vehicles. Some exceptions I know of: during the Canadian COVID lockdown protests it was parked vehicles. During French farmer protests they took tractors into the city to block traffic.
There is some question remaining of how the white mom demographic responds to this incident. If they never use this tactic again then maybe it shows it was a poorly thought out tactic and once the danger is apparent they abandon it en masse.
I think they perceived it as "using your body to block others" and they didn't realize they were doing the equivalent of waving a gun around. Their privilege and lack of experience with dangerous situations could probably excuse them for not thinking through the consequences of their actions. I've said elsewhere that I doubt Good fully thought through the consequences of using a vehicle to obstruct law enforcement. Typically the result of someone carelessly endangering other is that they injure others. In this case Good was shot dead. In an alternate reality she ran over an ICE officer and the news story is being buried like the one where ~15 people tried to shoot at ICE officers in an organized attack.
cjet79
5d ago
As I've said before I don't like litigating split second decision making. Most of your post is that.
The only real person with the ability to make decisions beforehand that could have prevented this is Good. She could have chosen to exit her vehicle at the protest or to turn off the engine. The other possibility that I just thought of is that ICE starts using armored vehicles and just starts ramming through obstructing vehicles. I don't want ICE to adopt that policy, do you?
She choose to use a vehicle to obstruct other vehicles and to drive in an area with pedestrians and people on foot. Her obstructing vehicles is part of the reason there were officers on foot in the first place. Unless she thought it would just be a perfect statement where she gets to obstruct a law she doesn't like and the result is that ICE just politely sits in their vehicles going no where and letting her obstruct them?
Your truck example is the false equivalence. Try using your truck to block the entrance to the police parking lot or your body to block the entrance of the front door. Those are equivalent.
Or line your truck up with the pedestrian exit to the police station and rev the engine like you are about to run them over. You will be treated like you are holding a shotgun. They will aim their guns at you and tell at you to get out. If you instead start moving the truck towards them they will unload as if you had lifted the shotgun into an aiming position.
In your example they get out of the truck. I suggested that was one of the things Good could have done to deescalate the situation. The equivalent would be leaving your shotgun in the trunk of your car. A weapon that you do not currently possess is of course far less threatening in the immediate situation.
If a policy relies on people making split second complex judgements then the policy sucks. I already put some fault on ice for being too willing to use deadly force. But that is because I hold agents of the government to a higher standard than I do individuals. And I think any individual would have been justified in using deadly force against a vehicle in this exact situation. In the US they'd also be legally in the clear, in Europe, which doesn't believe in self defense, probably not.
What policy changes would you suggest that could have prevented this? Being reasonable in the sense that any policy that amounts to "be ineffective anytime someone uses this tactic against you" is a non-starter.
I say this as someone that disagrees with the goals of ICE. But I do not see a policy that would have lead to a guaranteed better outcome here.
cjet79
5d ago
You are allowed to defend yourself and others in this country from threats of deadly harm with lethal force. A vehicle driving at someone is a deadly threat. This is already the law of the land.
cjet79
5d ago
Using a car as transportation is not something I'd say qualifies as intending to use a deadly weapon.
Using a car's physical mass, and the threat of that physical mass to intentionally obstruct others? That is definitely crossing into weaponization territory.
Also what happens when Good's obstruction is determined to be illegal? If she is on foot the authorities can use their bodies to arrest and restrain her. If she is in a vehicle they need her to cooperate and leave the vehicle. If she decides instead to flee in that vehicle she has now created a hazardous car chase scenario. Even if she had not nearly run someone over and no one had shot her, she still did the wrong thing by driving away.
I doubt she was thinking through any of these things, but thats exactly the problem she escalated the danger of the situation for others by adding her vehicle to it. The fact that she was ultimately the one to get killed feels a little harsh to me, but if anyone was going to die that day for what happened I'd have most preferred it to be Good.
Scott made his request for a culture war thread on Feb 14th of 2016 https://slatestarcodex.com/2016/02/14/ot43-roses-are-thread/
This is one of the oldest culture war threads I could find from reddit (and it might actually be the oldest):
https://old.reddit.com/r/slatestarcodex/comments/470zk9/culture_war_roundup_for_the_week_of_february_22/
It is weird seeing comments from myself in the thread. About a third of the usernames in there are deleted. Some of the other ones I hovered over are suspended. No one else I could find from there is over here on themotte. Was anyone else there for the inception of the culture war threads? Did you just have a different username back then?
I can't help but feel old. But I was young then and am arguably still young now. My opinions have hilariously not changed an inch from back then. I guess that could be good or bad.
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