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It’s also issue and fact based, which 99% of political discourse is not. Arguing about the optics of a political issue and about issues you have no control over not only doesn’t make actual governing better, but prevents it.
Arguing about the budget and the size of government makes sense if you understand tge budget on the table and what it changes as compared to last year’s budget. Arguing the Marist of a program makes sense if you know what the program is, what it’s supposed to do, and if it’s meeting its targets. Just yelling into Twitter isn’t politics.
I mean I wouldn’t mind so much if the vibes based people weren’t absolutely involved in politics and weren’t absolutely convinced that they are the serious ones. The vibes based political discourse that most people mistake for politics is destroying the country. We’re possibly the first civilization that will blow itself up simply because we’re bored. And it’s happening. We’re seeing political violence that usually only comes to civilizations in actual crisis— high inflation, high unemployment, mass arrests, etc. We have none of that. We have bored people yelling about politics, marching in the streets, and shooting people in an economy that’s probably no worse than the 1980s.
I wish that people would find politics boring so that policy could be made by wanks who actually know what is going on without having to worry about idiots on social media who see sad images on Facebook and decide that the other side is evil. I want it to be safe to disagree without having to think about whether it threatens my job, my family, or will end a relationship. But here we are, trying to turn an artificial cold civil war into an actual hot civil war. I wish the common response to politics was “boring”. And TBH real politics (reading the text of the bills, looking up statistics, reading FRED reports, and so on) is boring.
My point has nothing to do with Trump. I don’t like him anyway. My point is that pretty much any supposed “warning of authoritarianism” is so overbroad that literally any political figure doing something that the accuser disagrees with can fit into the usual definitions of fascism Or authoritarianism.
So in answer to the question, the first step would be to come up with an empirical definition of the points of fascism Or authoritarianism that even someone who agrees with the policies would say “sure I think we can agree on this point being fascist and not just using power in a way you don’t happen to like.” As it sits, this isn’t true. Eco’s 14 points are nearly as bad as Lichmann’s election keys: undefined terms, vague rules for deciding what counts, and lots of vibes-based handwringing. So I’ll answer by saying that I’ll take the cries of fascism by Trump seriously when you can explain why for example Obama’s trillion dollar bill to go around congress isn’t a fascist power grab, but Trump using Tariff funds is. Or why Eisenhower using the National Guard to arrest the governor of Arkansas for standing in the school door isn’t fascist, but tge National Guard protecting ICE agents is. I don’t like how Trump is doing things, but that doesn’t make it fascist, it means I disagree.
I have major qualms about throwing around these kinds of accusations without a lot of proof for a couple of reasons. First and most obvious is that they essentially declare the sitting government to be “outlaws” in the sense that the Western moral ethos has decided that any government that is authoritarian or fascist is to be opposed by any means necessary. It’s a declaration of war, it says that the government and anyone who supports them for any reason is evil and to be condemned. This is how you get assassination— and we’ve already had one. Second, Theres a danger that I think has already happened that so many false alarms have been issued that nobody takes such claims as literal anymore. You simply cannot because pretty much every conservative government that tries to govern like a conservative government is decried as Fascism. Reagan is fascist. Bush is fascist. Thatcher. If that’s also fascism, how do you actually raise the alarm if you get a genocidal regime who wants to actually rule with an iron fist?
The problem with claims of “authoritarianism” about Trump or anyone else is that the entire thing is so unempirical that it’s basically “boo outgroup” name calling.
Trump is going around Congress? What about Obama threatening to simply mint money to pay for things? Trump is using the National Guard, but in the 1960s the National Guard enforced desegregation including removing the Arkansas governor from the school house door. It’s not what laws are bent or broken, it’s scored differently depending on whether or not you agree with the goal and like the guy doing it.
The number of moving parts on this are insane. Even if you could technically do this, there’s huge problems of coordination, defection, etc. that you can’t get rid of.
If the guy actually elected refuses to step down what plausible mechanism does anyone have to force him to go along? I’m gonna go out on a limb and say that a contract specifying that person X is to run for president in place of Trump who can not be elected and step down is likely to be unenforceable. So Marco Rubio runs for president saying he’s going to resign and Trump will be the real president. He doesn’t. What’s the next move?
You also have the related issue of convincing Trump voters that this scheme is the real deal, that Trump will actually be the President and that the other guy is a ringer. That might not work. There’s only the Mel Carnahan senate race where that actually worked and people voted en mass for a candidate they didn’t want to win (he was dead at the time) and even then there was a bit of pushback because the GOP thought this was illegal. And the democrat voters had no assurances of exactly who would fill that seat. Democrats will absolutely push back on a candidate who is running on being a ringer. They would almost certainly sue, they might try to not certify the results, or have alternate slates.
Rigging elections is hard just because so much is happening in local precincts. Even if you have control over the dominion systems, not everyone votes by machine. If you have the machines down, then 2000 votes show up by voting machines, you have a problem. Even having the numbers right, you have to match the exit poll numbers (which you won’t have, as they’re taken after voting begins. You have to be pretty close to the poll’s already released, at least close enough that the media looking at the numbers buy the election results as plausible. You have to pay attention to down ballot races and issues as a wide discrepancy between the numbers for president and the numbers for senators, representatives, ballot issues etc. would raise eyebrows. You also have to have the final numbers seem random enough that statisticians are okay with the results.
I don’t think anything like this is plausible, but watching someone try to do it and fail would be pretty wild.
I mean quite low as in 10%? 5%? I mean I don’t think there are tons of them but without some estimates it’s hard to gage just how big the issue is.
Okay I’ll bite, and im sure I’ll regret it, but what percentage of conservative Americans would have an active interest in Nazi or neonazi ideas as in actually want them instituted into policy? Because I think at less than at least double digit percentage of actual Nazis, it’s kinda like a lot of the negative health effect Headlines. Yes nazism doubled, from 1% to 2%. It’s still pretty small and for most purposes negligible. If we’re going from 5 to 10%, sure it’s a problem, going from 10 to 20% is a problem. And for that matter, what counts as mainstream? FOX I think most people would call mainstream conservative media. The GOP caucus is mainstream. Ben Shapiro and Rogan are pretty mainstream.
I think there’s a bit of truth to it. Not that no woman is capable of Law work, but that the social style of women is not how law is supposed to work (or things like science or the military (which I fear a bit more than Law simply because the one army that keeps their military masculine will have it’s day with any country with a feminine military)) as it’s supposed to be about the fair and impartial application of rules, whether or not the outcome is one you prefer. Women tend to have a harder time accepting outcomes that feel mean even if the law is fair and the case is judged fairly. Sure a couple of women probably isn’t going to do it, but enough of them to have the circuit courts full of women who see the fair outcome of a jury trial as mean to someone from a disadvantaged group is going to make a shambles of blind and impartial judgement.
Classrooms are not low impact though. If you want to have a white collar job you’ll have to get some sort of educational certification and teachers especially in late high school and in college can tank your chances pretty quickly. And so kids either learn to fake the right opinions or actually hold them if he wants that kind of respectable job. Most kids end up holding the positions because they learned to ape them so well that they don’t bother to question it.
And the point being that wasting time and energy going after the 1% of supposed Nazis in the conservative world not only wastes time that should be used for policy, but actually cements the view and gives oxygen to the idea that fairly minor figures that nobody not already in the far right knows about are prominent figures in the right movement. Like let’s play that movie. JD Denouces Fuentes. And the story then is a million profiles of prominent Nazi Nick Fuentes, who is important enough to the conservative side to get the attention of JD Vance. Does this actually make people think the right is dealing with Nazis or do they think that the right is full of Nazis. If you denounce wife beating, people would assume that you abuse your wife and you are deflecting. They aren’t going to hear that and think it’s not a problem.
I can’t imagine massive denunciations of far left woke ideology is going to fix that either tbh. The wings have sucked the oxygen out of real politics and has nothing to do with political power. They also generally don’t drive policy. They’re not important except in managing the banding of the party.
To give the other side of the coin it’s due, Nick Fuentes and Myron Gaines are not super influential outside of far far right politics. Tucker is still sorta mainstream, though he’s not really on public airwaves or mainstream cable. And as I keep pointing out, as far as I can tell, a vanishingly small near lizard man constant levels of conservatives have any serious support for Nazi/Neonazi ideas. It’s simply not mainstream in conservative circles in any real sense, and only helps the left to constantly denounce Nazis as if they’re a major faction in conservative politics. Constant denunciations of nazism are a win for liberals because it feeds the impression that the left wants to create that the right is crawling with Nazis and therefore dangerous.
If a guy is constantly starting every conversation saying “I hate child molesters”, it doesn’t actually create the impression that he’s actually against child molesters. Instead, it causes normies to ask “why is it that this guy is always talking about child molesters?” And a good portion of the people noticing that will come away thinking that he must either be a child molester or be protecting one because most people do not go around denouncing things everyone else hates. I don’t want anything to do with child molesters. But im not bringing it up because I have nothing to do with child molesters.
Crosswords aren’t bad, but if you want downtime games, Sudoku and other logic puzzles are less bound up in authors trying to be clever. Even word searches are fun.
I’m not in favor of even hipsters ironically Nazi-posting, in case I wasn’t clear. My issue is that the conservative movement is expected to denounce their lizard-coefficient portion of the movement, while it doesn’t happen for other groups. The Left can be pretty antisemitic in its own right. There are “pro-Palestine” people who will repeat every trope that the old-school Nazis did (own the media and Hollywood, lie constantly, cry out in pain as the strike you, etc.) but nobody on the mainstream left is asked about it. And even getting away from that, the level of hate for even regular Christians and conservatives is pretty far beyond any good taste or social norms. A guy on the Democratic side got caught texting that he wanted to kill the wife and son of his political opponent. Not only are mainstream democrats not asked to denounce it, the man still has the support of the party. It’s a one sided thing. Both sides have rare extremist elements; all groups do. But it’s very obvious that there’s a KTO KEGO dynamic here where democrats can ignore or even support their fringe movements without being blamed for them. No one sticks a microphone In Kamala’s face asking her about antisemitism on the left, communism.
I mean it is pearl clutching if the support for Hitler is a very small portion of the Young Republicans. You can find crazy people in any population of people. There are blacks who believe the Natiin of Islam’s Yacuub theory. There are outright communists on the left. There are Christian nationalists who want to make other religions illegal. I find the isolated demands for decorum to be a bit silly simply because it’s always the right who has to justify and denounce its crazy people while the left gets a complete pass. Yes, Nazis are a problem, yes we should denounce them, but im still waiting for democrats to be forced to answer for: communists, woke crazies, “the resistance” (who insist that the current administration is “the regime” to be opposed at all costs), and anti-religious zealots. It doesn’t happen. It’s just the right told to denounce crazies. Kamala was never asked about groups like “Refuse Fascism” that posit that MAGA is fascism. They are never asked to tone down the rhetoric or denounce crazies as the price of being seen as respectable. Why should the GOP be asked to pre-smear itself with craziness (by calling attention to it) when it’s so one sided? It’s the “have you stopped beating your wife” thing on a political scale. To answer is to smear yourself.
I don’t think there’s any actual evidence of foul play here. What you are calling a Russian attack is at best a Post-Hoc claim. Trump promised more weapons to Ukraine, and threatened more tariffs for Chinese goods, and got a ceasefire agreement in Israel. Any one of those could be the reason for an attack. But that assumes there was an attack at all. Maybe it actually was just an accident.
Honestly, three and four don’t work simply because of geography. Israel and Palestine are fighting over pieces of land that in total is the size of New Jersey. Problem being that any missile launched can reach just about anywhere in that land area pretty easily. Which means that if either side ever defects, it’s back to square one. And thus Theres at best the return to form — ceasefire, rearm, and start another war.
The only way to have a permanent peace is to do the suitcase or coffin solution, as nothing less will survive the first defection.
I mean maybe im not into the philosophy scene enough to be in on those conversations but I’ve never seen any other philosophers treated as Marx is. People in the Woke/Marxist movements insist that you aren’t well educated in political theory until you have studied Marx. This isn’t what people claim about Kant, or Shoepenhour or Pascal. Nobody’s passing around Critique of Pure Reason like they do for Communist Manifesto. Some weird libertarians might pass aroun$ Milton Friedman, but it’s pretty rare. The closest I’ve seen to people treating philosophers like prophets is the Neo-Stoic movement that encourages people to read Seneca and Marcus Aurelius.
Any tool has its uses. LLMs are pretty useful as a first brush with a topic type question. It’s a good jumping off point for the start of a project, but it’s not going to do it all for you.
Most of the left are the laptop class doing bullshit jobs. Which I find rather hilarious. They act like email jobs are so stressful and demand even more money, but never really did anything honestly productive where results matter. It’s even funnier when you realize that most of these people who consider themselves working class have jobs that they couldn’t fail if they tried.
I think there is a tipping point where the cost of migration and training and related expenses would be worth it just to get a better production environment. But the cost of switching is high so the cost of continuing to work in the Microsoft environment has to be high than that.
It’s the stupid recall equation from fight club. The probability of a failure from using the product times the projected loss from that failure < cost of replacing the product = we don’t replace it.
I don’t think that’s true, or at least not necessarily true. Microsoft has a huge advantage in “lock in”, meaning that you run into a lot of problems if a company decides to go with other software platforms. The files they depend on to run their business are made in Microsoft products and thus in many cases, unless the company had the foresight to enforce a rule that ensures that they didn’t all save all their stuff in formats that only Microsoft can use, switching to something else imposes a burden. That’s before considering the learning curve for switching to a new company. It’s enough of a PITA that most don’t switch unless the software is really bad.
Even if the math did work, there’s always the CEO’s perfect out— outsource their front-line labor to a company that does staffing and then only be compared to the C-Suite officers who make 80% of what he does. And I can’t imagine putting all coffhouse staffing under a temp to hire company is going to improve conditions let alone pay as it now makes wage competition nonexistent.
I prefer the coins simply because most of the times im using a dollar is in a vending machine because a coke or bag of chips is more than a dollar. And really I think bills should be reserved for denominations of money that would buy more than mere snacks.
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I agree. I think it should be basically a faux pas to bring up politics and for that matter religion in the workplace simply because it introduces friction into that workplace to no benefit.
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