Corvos
15hr ago
I think your thesis is really overstating this, or is extrapolating from a group that is not normal. ‘Wanting your daughter to have sex in the context of healthy relationships with men you approve of’ is not maximally permissive or sex positive but it’s very far from thinking she’s 6yo and that you’ll be cucked if she ever has sex. It’s a parody of fatherly psychology.
Corvos
17hr ago
The US used anti-colonialist Third-Worldism to appeal to the third world in the Cold War. Part of this was making very clear that the old imperial powers were being dealt with. See for example the incident of the Suez Canal when Eisenhower threatened to crash the UK economy if we didn't withdraw. Increasingly craven displays of acceptance were the only way to retain any world influence at all, and nobody with influence foresaw (or wanted to foresee) how far things would go.
The same broad impetus was behind many Civil Rights decisions in the US as well: the US government was well-aware that overt Jim Crow style racism against blacks in America was being used to entice resource-owning African countries under the USSR's welcoming skirts.
Corvos
18hr ago
are you only interested in her because she's
green andmalleable and can be moulded to what you want
I do note that the gender-reversed version of this - wives should get a husband who's not yet set in his ways and wives can and should mould their husbands - is lindy and entirely uncontroversial. Sure, there's no move to bang 16 year old boys but this seems like another case of things that used to be expected for both sexes now being abandoned on one side for the sake of female freedom whilst the male version tightens if anything.
Corvos
22hr ago
It seems a valid observation of the kind of dynamics this will inevitably introduce.
Yes, but I don't mean men marrying down in the sense that "she's pretty and sweet but lower class and thick as mince". I mean that my female cousins (who tbh are pretty and vivacious but with exceptions not up to much) married smart, handsome, capable men that everyone loves having round. Our general attitude to them is, "Go to it, my son, hope she's treating you right".
By contrast my male cousins are conventionally successful but married/dated girls with fairly dubious personalities who nobody likes - one is a self-absorbed compulsive-organiser who doesn't like my cousin spending time with us and acts like everyone around her is a gaggle of Sunday school children who have to be constantly shepherded in case they wander off. The other was indifferent bordering on hostile, rude, and so absorbed in a vocation that she had no time for my cousin and saw him a few times a week while getting him to effectively sub her angel-of-mercy-but-no-pay job.
I suspect this state of affairs arose at least partly because my aunts are very no-nonsense and probably told their daughters exactly what they what they ought to look for and how to get it, whereas I can't imagine my uncles ever having that conversation with their sons (and my own parents have been pretty useless on the topic as well).
The cuck framing just doesn't make sense at all to me, culturally. If anything, we reared and then sacrificed my female cousins in order to bring fun, useful men into the family in the traditional manner. (I jest of course, my cousins are fine and happy.)
Corvos
1d ago
I just don’t relate to this at all. Admittedly I don’t have daughters, but I’ve watched all my cousins getting married and everyone loves the husbands and thinks it’s great to have a new smart, capable chap in the family.
If anything the wives and girlfriends have had a much worse reception, though I think this is because the girls in my family have mostly made good marriages and the guys have mostly made fairly dubious marriages, rather than reflecting any meaningful gender element.
Corvos
1d ago
I want to see this conversation happen in a supermarket car park, with both parties in full regalia and at top volume...
Asians probably find us natives loud and obnoxious.
They probably do make better market making algorithms and GDP goes up.
He's not saying he's better than Asians. He's saying that lots of people with an American passport are still different people from his people and he wants to be around people like him. I can relate.
Corvos
2d ago
We're getting into the weeds here, but let's take a shot at it (to mix all the metaphors)
You can totally do this. You're golfing: you've got the ball in the weeds, now you're standing over it to make your shot :)
Corvos
2d ago
Fair point. And notably the Eastern church is the only one that the Catholics (at least now) consider a real, proper church on a near-peer level. But I don't think it's representative and certainly SSPX isn't on that level.
I think that they would quibble with the word “schism” for subtle canonical reasons that I am too evangelical to understand
My understanding is that "schism" in the Catholic usage means 'breaking away from the church'. It's not division, you don't get two churches. You just get the Church and Not!The!Church.
SSPX, who consider themselves to be defending the true Tradition against unlegitimate encroachment, would never see themselves as a breakaway sect.
Corvos
2d ago
The government must grant patents, which I wasn't sure was the case. So maybe this has merits. In practice I think you would struggle: the judgement of 'valid against prior art' is somewhat subjective and is also a high bar to clear even when you're getting a normal patent. I suspect the patent office would find it fairly easy to deny your claim. "Design" or 'Marketing' patents are much easier to get.
I will say that having Labour win in the UK was almost certainly better than having the Tories limp back in, even if they had an anti-immigration leader. They would have been under constant attack from a Left who could plausibly claim that they would be able to fix voter concerns in a nice and sensible way and voters just need to get the Tories out.
That was Keir Starmer's whole platform, and it's failed totally. Now, the Labour government has done a lot of damage - decriminalising homelessness this morning, so now we can have our own tent cities! - but they've actually tried reasonably hard on immigration and (in a sense) on public order, and failed totally. Which has produced a much stronger sense of 'the current system is completely broken and needs radical (R)eform' than anything the Tories could have got a mandate for.
It feels kind of perverse to say "I hope my guy loses" but losing isn't always a terrible thing. I suspect Trump 2020 would have been a far less powerful president than Trump 2024.
Corvos
4d ago
But trans activists' whole thing is to alter cultural and linguistic norms so that "she/her" or "woman" no longer imply anything factual about people's reproductive organs. We want a world where everyone knows that some "women" have penises rather than vaginas.
This is one reason people get really, really upset about being forced to use the 'wrong' name. We know that you are trying to rewrite the way we think and talk. And forcing us to use the wrong name is coercing us into aiding your project against our will. If you want an intuition pump, imagine the culture was taken over by paedophiles trying to erase the child/adult distinction such that everyone knows some "adults" can't talk yet and the concept of being underage becomes taboo. (This is an intuition pump, I am not accusing you or anyone else of being a paedophile or a pervert.)
Speaking as somebody who has been in the exact position of suddenly being forced to call somebody by their new name, I will straight up tell you that I found it humiliating, coercive, and frightening. I am not asking your permission to feel these things, simply telling you I felt them. If your goodwill towards mankind extends beyond your ingroup, please consider that forcing people to refer to trans people as their preferred gender is not 'nice'. It is mean. It is mean as hell and produces lasting resentment.
I don’t disagree with any of that, but you were asking whether education has a greater effect than breeding and I was making the obvious point that the effect is asymmetric.
Your examples follow the same pattern. You can certainly reduce crime by putting people in prison or shooting them in the head, but it is very hard to educate somebody into not being a schizophrenic.
Corvos
5d ago
But the Middle East is awful! The whole point of remigration is that you don't have adopt the Middle-Eastern mindset and can readopt the wholesome, high productivity Lockean one.
It's relevant because American power projection and global export economy relies on other countries preferring to have you as patron vs. the alternatives. If the choice for Iran is genocide and America running their country vs. letting China come in and run some chunks of their country, which do you think they're going to pick? And what are you going to do when making Iran play nice involves bombing Chinese citizens and tripwire forces?
Likewise the Gulf States. They don't like each other much and America has been pretty good at keeping things stable and paying for oil - far from perfect, but good. When it's a case of "any American President may genocide us because half the electorate considers us enemies", guess how fast they will seek a new Patron? And guess how fast they will seek nuclear weapons?
America has up until now made the calculation that one uppity little regional power that is fairly isolated is much better than big groups of regional powers who agree on little else except the need to have tripwire alliances and patrons to guard against the US, and are happy to pay for it with resources that America's global adversaries want.
TLDR: America's foreign policy has always been founded on putting together lots of NATOs that allow it to project influence, and to avoid becoming the target of NATOs owned by other superpowers. That means being careful how you escalate.
Why should the world be so convenient? Give Albert Einstein enough alcohol and you can make him a slurring, slumped vagrant. But there is nothing you can drink that will turn you into Albert Einstein.
Right, but I wouldn’t want somebody to pump and dump my cousins, and it’s not because I harbour creepy incestuous love for them. It’s because it’s not nice. And I would have broadly the same sentiment towards my male cousins.
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