Botond173
51m ago
Rape is seen as an extremely severe crime committed against the sacred honor of the victim and her family in patriarchal societies (IF the woman in question is seen as having honor). Alternatively rape is seen as an extremely severe crime committed against the sacred sexual autonomy of the victim in feminist societies (unless the perpetrator is the member of the ingroup). This is a rather big difference.
Botond173
1hr ago
She seems to be a usual middle-class white female NPC who reads too much female-oriented porn. Maybe she assumed the two guys were about to have sex with each other and were merely inviting her to watch?
Botond173
1hr ago
I'd argue that raping the local women in the conquered lands of a heinous defeated enemy is mostly seen as not objectionable in most patriarchal societies especially if we apply the feminist definition of rape to the matter at hand.
Botond173
1hr ago
We should normalize people intentionally moving to regions with like-minded individuals.
This has actually been happening on such a scale and for such a long time that a popular book was released on its harmful effects back in 2008. I know this is somewhat off-topic but still.
Botond173
3hr ago
If you honestly think that "all women" are in a sort of cartel where they determine the cost of entry for "family formation" or engage in "resource siphoning," I'm not sure we will ever see eye to eye. Cartels coordinate.
Slut-shaming is an obvious case of such coordination, isn't it? Not the slut-shaming done by angry incels online, which is a huge social crisis existing only on the minds of feminist journalists, but slut-shaming done by other women.
I imagine there are far more women who are turned off by the median man than there are men who are turned off by the median woman.
This has always been the case though.
Botond173
4hr ago
I’m sorry but the female equivalent to male gambling, porn, anger, laziness and isolation is by no means merely ‘getting careers, delaying childbirth, or even having more sex’; it’s credit card debt, female anger (publicly directed at men and usually getting zero social pushback), (obsessive) female porn consumption (of trashy YA literature, dark romantasy or whatever and emotional porn marketed to women in general), social isolation (see the latter example), trashiness, frumpiness, OF ‘modeling’, camwhoring, pigging out, getting addicted to painkillers and alcohol etc.
What getting careers, delaying childbirth, or even having more sex represent on the part of women is simply them abandoning the social roles that the bygone Christian patriarchy expected of them – it does not necessarily entail personal degeneracy and dysfunction. Men abandoning the social roles that the bygone Christian patriarchy expected of them simply manifests as one no longer interacting with women from the perspective of responsibility and protection but from the perspective of pleasure and fun – in other words, delaying marriage and fatherhood, not marrying your first sweetheart etc. It's an overall situation where women no longer feel accountable to men and men no longer feel responsible for women.
Living in a coastal city and think the women are too feminist? Move. Having a hard time meeting religious people? Move. No luck on dating apps due to demographic asymmetries? Move. Dating and marriage, on the experiential level, have so little to do with the aggregate behaviors of the sexes, and everything to do with how one spends their time and the people they surround themselves with.
Do you think it's a reasonable request to be made to average single men or women to upend their entire lives just to supposedly increase their personal chances of finding a suitable partner?
Botond173
4hr ago
I think this false notion that women are somehow innately fit for marriage by virtue of having been born with an uterus whereas men need to basically be domesticated into this role is remarkably widespread even among people who should know better. I’m guessing there are two main reasons for this. One is that most people are capable of noticing that the average woman is only interested in one man at a time and thus practices monogamy even when she’s not interested in marriage. (Serial monogamy = promiscuity, as practiced by women.) The other is that when relationships are formed, the man is usually more averse to initiating commitment (averse to making this big change in front of his entire social circle, that is) than the woman is whereas the woman is more likely to be averse to staying committed. This means men and women are actually equally picky in this regard but it’s men’s pickiness that manifests earlier in the process which creates the notion that the average man is somehow a ‘commitment-phobe’.
Botond173
20hr ago
I’m somewhat familiar with the work of the reactionary blogger Jim and one thing I definitely never expected him to do was to use the Japanese light novel series KonoSuba and its anime adaptation as a talking point. But now it’s here:
In the anime Konosuba, Kazuma and Megumin frequently find themselves alone together and have a lot of physical contact. Kazuma, who is the main male character, is identified in the storyline as seventeen years old and is drawn as slightly younger; Megumin, who is the primary romantic interest, his waifu, his best girl, is drawn inappropriately young, and is identified in the storyline as inappropriately young even for a seventeen-year-old boy, but all the fanservice women, for example Aqua, are drawn as about Sydney Sweeney’s age. They are all drawn as obviously older than Kazuma, and most of them are identified in the storyline as inappropriately mature for a seventeen-year-old boy. All the other girls perform fanservice, and Megumin does not, but only Megumin gets time alone and extensive platonic physical contact with Kazuma. The storyline could be interpreted as the young main male character preparing her for a future marriage, while at the same time being distracted by all those attractive, far older eye-candy women, particularly Aqua.
One aspect he left out is that Aqua basically exists a comic relief character and not as a potential romantic interest (also the notion that she is ‘drawn as about Sydney Sweeney’s age’ is questionable at best) and that the other main female character who can be called a fanservice woman (Darkness) is basically a delusional pervert which rules her out as a love interest as well.
Anyway, that’s not the main reason I’m linking to it here and I also know this subject matter has been done to death here. The reason instead is the reference therein to mainstream accusations about the ‘Peter Pan syndrome’ among single men. I think it’s a fascinating culture war phenomenon and I also think Jim misses the point about it here. It’s not that it’s a pretext for aging and frumpy hags to whine, it’s that it’s based on the assumption that women are innately mature enough for marriage. I’ll quote a 2011 blog post from an Australian Catholic social conservative author who is also critical of the Manosphere:
On the other hand, what alpha Christian male wants to be sloppy sixth's to the modern shrew? The problem for this type of guy is the lack of quality women out there. He wants to get married but the pickings are so slim. Hymowitz thinks that today's average girl is "quality" product, however I think that there is a fair amount of legitimate disagreement as what constitutes quality No matter what her career achievements, a woman who has ridden the carousel and perhaps made a few trips to the abortuary is not quality material from a Christian point of view. A mature and responsible christian male would think such a woman is high risk material for infidelity and divorce and by-pass her. If there were an en masse movement to alpha up, the following would happen. The hedonists would pump and dump while the Christians would become more choosy; the pool of marriageable suitors for women would shrink.
Where Hymowitz errs, is in the assertion that today's woman is in some way more "mature" than the pre-adolescent male upon which she rightly heaps her scorn. She labours under the illusion that the modern woman is some sort of prize that men will aspire to. Hymowitz has framed her argument in such a way that would be laughable to the good men of the past.
Men and women of the past would both agree that men today leave a lot to be desired, but the fall in quality has been most marked amongst women. From the vantage point of the past, the modern woman today is vapid, slutty, superficial, unfeminine and hence extremely poor quality material.
What marks the transition from adolescence to adulthood is the gradual assumption of responsibility, maturity and independence. What separates the child, the adolescent and the adult is the increasing influence of reason over emotion. The mature adult takes his emotions into account but is not ruled by them. Enter the concept of the Rationalisation Hamster. The concept needs to be understood as the cognitive mechanism by which thought is subordinated and aligned to emotion. The function of this "hamster" is to provide a superficially plausible (if not logically consistent) series of thoughts to align and justify whatever action is required by the emotional state. It is effectively the thought process of an immature adolescent.
The "triumph" of modern Feminism has been to culturally and legislatively legitimise this rationalisation hamster. Marriage is no longer seen as a reciprocal relationship amongst two people, but rather a flexible arrangement of convenience based on the emotive state of the parties. The logic of abortion as a woman's rights issue (ignoring the rights of the father) is another example. The furthering of women into fields that they are totally unsuited to, such as the military, police and firefighting services yet another. Feminism has also been able to reframe feminine identity; what previous generations would have thought trampy and flighty, modern feminism has been able to portray as mature.
When Hymnowitz points to the Star Wards nerds, all I can think of is the "mature" female SATC equivalents. I admit that men sitting in mom's basement jerking off to online porn are pretty shallow, but so are the women who spend their lives shopping for bags, clothes whilst riding the carosel waiting for the enabling supplicant whom will provide them with lifestyle to which they are accustomed. People from a less enlightened age would consider a person who endlessly obsesses about their looks, the latest pair of Jimmy Choo's and who Brad is dating now, pretty superficial. It's the pot calling the kettle black.
Botond173
2d ago
This is admittedly a half-assed thought experiment of mine, but here it goes.
A voice recording surfaces one day of a discussion between some local ICE official and some prominent local Republican politician where they sort of joke around about some locally infamous MtF transsexual activist, calling "her" a man and an annoying twat or something similar. Both get condemned, even by many Republicans, and they release some non-apology "apologies" and otherwise keep their positions.
There are protests against them of course, but the local orgs/chapters of the Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, Patriot Front etc. announce a rally/demonstration in support of them. The local Blue Tribe generally gets fired up about this and some local LGBT groups specifically announces a counter-demonstration/protest. One of the announced organizers is this fringe mask-worshipping lesbian cult. These groups release a united statement that they are inviting all decent, caring, empathic etc. local citizens to attend, or something like that.
So what do non-fringe Blue Tribe groups do as a response? Do they state that they refuse to attend because one of the organizers is a fringe group of insane people? Or do they simply not attend and otherwise refuse to comment on this particular aspect? Or do they attend but refuse to have pictures taken with these mask-worshippers or to shake hands with them? Will struggle sessions ensue?
Botond173
2d ago
His subordinates either had him poisoned and falsely portrayed it as a natural death, or deliberately withheld medical assistance in order to cause his death. In either case his death is on them, particularly Beria.
Botond173
2d ago
Nobody is beyond reproach or suspicion regardless of position except for the one supreme ruler who is revered basically as a deity, that is.
Botond173
3d ago
I'm not sure it makes sense to ponder this subject. It can surely be stated that the executors of the wholesale repression of kulaks, Cossacks and 'treasonous' ethnic minorities etc. were themselves repressed afterwards but not for the reason that they committed atrocities. It was due to the peculiar logic of Stalinism and the overall nature of totalitarian systems which operate by the rule that nobody is beyond reproach or suspicion regardless of position or rank and everyone is to live in a constant state of dread.
Botond173
4d ago
The campaigns of collectivization and industrialization were initiated in 1929. Both of these essentially entailed show trials, local purges and waves of terror directed at 'wreckers', 'saboteurs', 'hoarders', 'terrorists' and other so-called anti-revolutionaries. The leaders of the state security service (GPU, formerly Cheka) who carried these out were so-called Old Bolsheviks, that is, participants of the revolution and civil war, not appointed by Stalin and generally lacking a sense of personal loyalty to him which he found suspicious. The short story is that these officials and their subordinates were purged during the great terror wave of 1937-38. The state security commissar who carried this out was himself purged in 1940 by his successor who was then himself purged after Stalin’s death.
Botond173
5d ago
They're not even mainstream among LGBT people. This is the fringe of the fringe.
Are you sure about that? Are they getting disowned and purged from the tribe?
Botond173
5d ago
the outgroup's most ridiculous exemplars
Does that also make them rare and irrelevant though?
Alternatively:
Rural – no traffic jams ever anywhere
Suburban/exurban – having to routinely get stuck in traffic jams when a) commuting to and from work via car b) going shopping on Saturday morning
Urban – traffic jams are the norm and not the exception; any car commute is basically impossible to schedule safely as there might be an accident etc. anytime
Botond173
6d ago
A stray comment on the culture-war thread from two weeks ago reminds me that, IMO, people on this website have been talking very loosely when they compare "urban", "suburban", and "rural" living.
Pinging @TIRM as that stray comment of mine was a response to his. I stand by what I said. I think the romanticization of suburban living is understandable in light of disastrous urban decay and dysfunction but ultimately still a bit silly.
Botond173
6d ago
I don't want to sound like a dick but we're living in the age of fancy, flashy, addictive touchscreens so the time your kid is going to willingly spend running around with your dog in your personal garden will be rather limited, and this will probably annoy the hell out of you.
Botond173
6d ago
I tend to agree with the view that suburbs actually combine the disadvantages of urban and rural living while offering the advantages of neither.
Botond173
6d ago
This is only tangentially related but I'm reminded that the adverse effects of unchecked mass immigration are mostly felt by those natives who have to live among the new arrivals - lower middle-class and working-class people employed in the service and manufacturing sectors. They usually rely on public transport and use public places in their neighborhoods so they have no option to avoid the masses of immigrants. Many of them don't have cars. They cannot afford to move to the suburbs or exurbs either, or to pay for private tuition of their children. And many of these people are also middle-aged or elderly with a small social circle. From the ruling class they receive nothing but mockery and disdain because NPC normies believe that anyone who cannot socially isolate oneself from the smelly underclass in general is a loser. In their frustration they often start supporting anti-immigration parties which in turns invites even more mockery, disdain, hatred and seething.
I don't think that's saying much especially when we're talking about some meathead on a sports scholarship.
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