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Small-Scale Question Sunday for December 29, 2024

Do you have a dumb question that you're kind of embarrassed to ask in the main thread? Is there something you're just not sure about?

This is your opportunity to ask questions. No question too simple or too silly.

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I have a lot of questions about India and the Indian diaspora (whether US, UK, or elsewhere) that I feel uncomfortable asking anyone I know in real life. I feel like I have no sense for the actual role caste plays in life, both in India itself and in its diasporas. I’m in a STEM field so naturally I interact with many 1st/2nd generation Indians. Over the years, conversations have on rare occasion drifted to these topics and people have mentioned things like sometimes when other Indians ask for surnames they’re really trying to figure out your caste, or how their parents are have a pretty low opinion of Indians from X region. I didn’t quite feel right asking for more detail, but it seems we have quite a few Indians here so I figure I’ll give it a shot. These are rather broad questions so shrink the scope as you see fit.

  1. How confidently could you guess someone’s ancestral state based just on a standardized passport headshot?

  2. How confidently could you guess someone’s ancestral state based just on their family and given names?

  3. How granular/significant does regional discrimination tend to get in India vs in diaspora communities? (North vs South, state by state, city by city?)

  4. How confidently could you guess someone’s caste based just on a standardized passport headshot?

  5. How confidently could you guess someone’s caste based just on their family and given names?

  6. How granular/significant does caste discrimination tend to get in India vs in diaspora communities? (North vs South, state by state, city by city?)

  7. Can you tell what Indian language is their native language based just on their accent while speaking English?

  8. Do social groups in diaspora communities tend to cut across regional/linguistic lines? As a point of comparison, being in a STEM field I naturally also interact with many 1st/2nd generation Chinese. Obviously caste isn’t really a factor there, but it seems they also make little distinction by ancestral province or Chinese dialect. I’m wondering if, when I walk by the large groups of Indians playing cricket at the park speaking a language I can’t identify, are these groups usually, say, the Hindi speakers hanging out amongst themselves while the Tamil speakers have their own group? Presumably they all speak English being in America so if they were a mixed-region group they’d be using English but I rarely see large groups of Indians speaking English with each other.

  9. Do social groups in diaspora communities also tend to cut across caste lines?

Can answer as a 2nd gen for good measure

  1. I couldn't, maybe very broadly North or South but tons of room for error
  2. Fairly confident with the more common last names (Patels are Gujurati, Singhs are from the Punjab region or around there) otherwise I couldn't
  3. Among 2nd gens I know, nonexistent. Among 1st gens (according to my father and some family friends who work in tech), Hindi speakers are sometimes a bit cliquey, though this really does seem to boil down to language more than any North/South enmity
  4. Basically couldn't
  5. My mom's family is Tamil so I know Iyer/Iyengars are Brahmin but that's about it (neither of my parents are Brahmin)
  6. Among 2nd gens, nonexistent. My father works in tech and is very dark skinned and has also never faced any caste-based discrimination in America. Mother is very lightskinned and other immigrants have never mentioned each other's caste to her either.
  7. I only speak English so N/A
  8. Among 2nd gens not at all, 1st gens yes some linguistic lines
  9. Among 2nd gens (and 1st according to my father), not at all