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Culture War Roundup for the week of October 24, 2022

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More specifically, they're creating a cultural environment more conducive to pedophiles raping kids in general.

Than what? The traditional cultural environments made it pretty easy to rape kids as well. It's different but I am not sure it is worse from that perspective. In one the kids may not report it because the cultural environment around sex is shame and they do not understand the situation. In the other they may have a better understanding of what is going on due to more openness around sex but someone can use that openness to get to them.

I've a background in working with victims of CSE and I am honestly not sure which one is directionally going to result in more child rapes. I certainly don't think it is anywhere near as cut and dried as you say.

Victimizers will take advantage of the cultural mores whatever they are, that much is true, I think.

Than what?

Than schools or professional organizations that aren't doing ideological queerness stuff. I mean, yes, nothing here is really going to stop kids from being abused by their families. But if a coach, a priest or a scout leader want to ensure kids have access to porn, and knows the adult is open to confidential conversations about sex and private parts and they promise to keep it secret from the parents - we would consider that extremely alarming!

And when the adult doings that is an art teacher or librarian with some inane academic word salad to justify it - still extremely concerning!

Making sure gay kids don't hate themselves is a fine goal, but I don’t see any reason we can't do that without dropping existing useful heuristics about protecting kids.

Than schools or professional organizations that aren't doing ideological queerness stuff.

Yeah my point is that this is a point very much not in evidence. A priest in a traditional church can take advantage of the shame around sex that is promoted to keep his victims quiet. And of the increased trust to get easy access.

It's a just so story either way. It is certainly possible that neither is the correct option to reduce CSE.

Yeah my point is that this is a point very much not in evidence.

It seems like it is. There are a decent few states with laws that encourage teachers to immediately affirm kids, and then actively conceal it from parents. Much of the shitstorm over the Florida law was about a provision that forbid concealing that stuff from parents, with an exception for situations where the teacher had a sincere concern that the kid would come to real harm, presumably at which point normal mandatory reporter / child protection stuff would kick in. What should I infer about that mild requirement sparking livid fury?

Again though that is not evidence that you get more CSE in that environment. That is the claim remember. Is there evidence that a more permissive environment leads to more CSE.