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2. Bootstrap the rest of the fucking omnipotence.

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Iconochasm

2. Bootstrap the rest of the fucking omnipotence.

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I'll admit there is a certain appealing poetry to ending the immigration debate by offering Democrats a compromise that is front-loaded to what MAGA wants, and then ruthlessly stiffing them on the back end.

Yes, the happy chemicals after picking up the heavy things or covering a long distance makes me happy. The heavy things also have numbers on them, and if you keep doing it, you can watch the numbers go up.

Shame we'll never know because Trump backed off

We can't really say that based on this. Total number of hotel and farmworkers in the US is around 4 million. Even if they're all illegals, there's 20+ million illegals in the US, and some estimates put the number much higher. "Target that group last" is very different from just giving up altogether.

If food spending goes up by $300 per year, the media will have an amazingly hypocritical freakout about it. But if, at the same time, rents drop by 10%, ER wait times go down, and many common areas feel less crowded by people who don't share a common culture or language, I think the American people would be quite happy with the outcome.

I live near a popular tourist area, and we get flooded with Eastern European's on guest worker visas every summer. The jobs are in hospitality, which isn't that much more productive than farm work, if it is at all.

I straight up don't believe you. Many are friendly enough (to the limited extent they can be, without a common language), but an illustrative experience was spending fifteen minutes trying to use translation software to explain to a woman the difference between a square and a rectangle while she just looked at me sadly and said "no comprendo..." Then she asked me to help her commit welfare fraud.

Ok. Let me know when you get the political support to even begin tackling that goal. Remember, one party will actively lie and cheat the system to get welfare spending to illegals, so make sure to take that into account in your planning.

And when those foreigners are heavily subsidized by tapping into the American welfare systems? When they start voting to pick your pocket, and turn America into Mexico?

Tell you what, let's do 20 million deportations, and we'll save the million or two doing farmwork for last. And on the way, we'll see what effects that had on entitlement spending.

Yes, there are plenty of people who have no contact with illegal immigrants and suffer from a virulent Typical Mind Fallacy.

You do get that there's already people doing this down-the-tech-tree work, right? If you're this upset at the thought of some college kid or NEET picking fruit instead of playing video games, why do you want to import massive amounts of low functioning foreigners?

Huh. Now I need to track that other guy down and see if they had a similar pattern of flags or something.

Consider the possibility that your personal range of options doesn't perfectly generalize to the entire population.

Worth noting that "all the coworkers are illegal immigrants" is a major disincentive to taking a particular job. Even aside from status stuff, just being able to shoot the shit in a common language vs being the only gringo is a big deal.

Just casually stalk the subreddit. That'll expose you to some discussion points to start up, and people love nothing more than a chance to tell you why you're wrong - especially if you spin yourself as a foreigner who is willing to take the wisdom of the locals.

Decker is the one who said it was good to murder the Tsar's small children because their genetics and education might have made them better than average, right?

Really drives home how no one ever considers themselves the villain.

Do you think it's worth defending now? Do you think it ever was?

A lot of people seem to think and talk like their default assumption is that Democrats can just do whatever they want.

In this case, refusing to enforce the law while actively tyrannizing lower levels of government and citizens who object appears to be quite viable.

Just something to keep in mind when the next election rolls around, for anyone whose vibes are feeling blue.

Lol. The only reason anyone knows that basic bitch's name is because she's a naked whore who preys on quokkas. If she were anon, she'd be Substacker #4000. Aella is an object lesson, because she doesn't have the self-awareness to do better. The woman literally pre-plans to have people pin her down and force her to continue with her birthday gangbang while she's - per her own description - screaming in horror. This is probably not someone who should have been left free to run her own life. But if we're going to permit people to make terrible, self-destructive, delusional decisions and also to proselytize them, then we have an obligation to counter that advocacy with scathing rebukes. And, because a large portion of the population is actually not that smart (half are below average!), then we also need to acid-treat those memes into a more easily digestible format (this is what conservatism is, generally speaking).

All of which is to say that the discomfort from being shamed is literally the entire point. If Aella having a crying breakdown because people called her a dumb, dirty whore saves 5 other girls from trying that life path, then from a utilitarian perspective the bullying is an objectively good behavior. If being less mean about it means only 2 girls are swayed, then being kind was the evil option.

And if she doesn't care for that framing, then I would encourage her to consider the entire world of philosophy besides dipshit utilitarianism - probably with some sort of suicide watch on standby.

That's the difference between righteousness and self-righteousness. You can still sweep the steps of your trailer, and be content that you've brought a bit of cleanliness and order to the world, even if the neighbors scoff. You don't actually have to be a pretentious, stuck-up dick about it,

I can only assume there’s some sort of deep psychic/symbolic trauma associated with the making explicit of a contractual obligation that is usually left implicit. engaging in that trade with many different men with different hormonal/biomarkers that disrupts pair-bonding

Plus the consequences of faking emotions on a consistent basis. Practice makes permanent.

Yes, and you need to seriously reevaluate your thinking if you ever thought this is anything other than 100% certain.

Just imagine me looking up from my post last week to mug at the camera like a character from The Office.

If that "insightful answer" turned into any actual understanding on your part, you could have just reformulated the concept in your own words.

I don't see what Shapiro not being selected as vice president has to do with anything. Literally every Democrat not named Tim Walz wasn't selected.

Shapiro was such an obviously good pick (popular, moderate, highly increases chances of winning an important swing state) that not selecting him his strong Bayesian evidence that being a Jew is considered electoral poison by the DNC. If he's the nominee, leftist anti-Semitism becomes a major campaign issue and major source of internal strife for the Democrats.

I feel like it's trendy now to see the Democrats as a party in disarray, and while those criticisms are valid, the Republicans might actually be in worse shape going into 2028.

They're not in disarray, they're in freefall, posting record low popularity ratings. Meanwhile, Trump is polling in the 60's with Hispanics. A lot can change in three years, but Democrats are facing relegation.

Also, I think you are wildly overestimating how much people give a fuck about experience. Obama was plenty inexperienced, and look how that turned out.

I’m not entirely convinced that anyone can know the internal experience of any group that you are not a member of.

Don't worry about "knowing". Settle for "being able to usefully predict the results of". For example, I have read books from an author with a feminine name that I knew literally nothing about as a person. And halfway through my brain just says "Sorry, but there is no chance a woman wrote something this spectacularly autistic", and then I go look and of course the author is trans. There are tells, in what gets highlighted and how things are approached.

The actual best comparison is the 2011 Wisconsin statehouse takeover, wherein a large mass of hostile protestors Occupied the legislature building for the express purpose of preventing legislation from being passed, while openly calling for the deaths of the Republican legislators and governor.

But leftists disrupting legislative proceedings in DC is so common it's banal. There's procedures, where the "rioters" wait in line for their turn to get into the room, make a scene, get "arrested" and then released to go brag about it to their friends.