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Culture War Roundup for the week of October 24, 2022

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  1. Well, it's all relative I guess.

  2. Nope, please quote the part that implies any malicious intent?

This part: "I think the action is purposeful, and aims to change the worldview of vulnerable and impressionable people." Surely you did not mean to imply that manipulating "vulnerable and impressionable people" is a good thing.

And, BTW, your original claim was: "If I call someone a groomer for showing porn to a 5 year old, technically I'm also doing it only because I disagree which materials are appropriate for which age groups."

So, either you are calling someone a groomer "only because [you] disagree which materials are appropriate for which age groups," or you are calling them groomers because you "think the action is purposeful, and aims to change the worldview of vulnerable and impressionable people"

Surely you did not mean to imply that manipulating "vulnerable and impressionable people" is a good thing

Are you using the word "manipulating" in the most technical meaning, as nothing more than a synonym for "change" or are you relying on the word's negative connotations to put words in my mouth again?

I don't think what they're doing is good, but I think they believe what they're doing is good, which is why your characterization of what I'm saying is wrong.

So, either you are calling someone a groomer "only because [you] disagree which materials are appropriate for which age groups," or you are calling them groomers because you "think the action is purposeful, and aims to change the worldview of vulnerable and impressionable people"

Sorry, I responded to you shortly after Gemma, where I referred to queer theorists, and when I got to your reply I was still thought they're they're the main topic.

If this was just about pedophiles, likewise I don't think they believe what they're doing is wrong, so your description of my beliefs is wrong.

I don’t understand how what they think is relevant. The question is whether you think they have the intent to do something bad, and you do. You just said so: "I don't think what they're doing is good."

"Intent to do something bad" assumes they agree with my moral valuation of what they want to do.

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