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Culture War Roundup for the week of October 24, 2022

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this argument has been tossed at Georgism for over a century

Why do you suppose that is? The colloquial meaning of "land"--let's say, "the patches of dirt that are not submerged beneath rivers, lakes, or seas"--makes claims like "nobody creates land and it cannot be created, only improved" clearly false. So when Georgists say "land," they apparently have a technical definition in mind that goes beyond what people think when they hear Georgists say "land."

That sets the whole discussion up for failure straight out of the gate, because you're either being deliberately or inadvertently obtuse about the central subject of discussion. In the United States today, the physical coordinates over which people claim ownership are often the least of what their "real property" (as we call owned land) entails. On the prevailing "bundle of rights" view, in addition to the physical coordinates you own, your "property" also includes things like a right of quiet enjoyment, a right of access, a right against trespass, and so forth. Those are real rights, and often they are not the kind of right that you can really put a fair dollar value on.

There is a school of legal thought, "Law and Economics," which holds roughly that the purpose of law is to facilitate efficient economic exchange. Its founder, Richard Posner, has broadly disclaimed its universal applicability. Much of the law is concerned with economic exchange, yes--but not all of it. Individuals have important interests that should not be violated, not even if the majority says so, not even if the majority would benefit. Just as "land" on your view can also mean "the sea," "real property" means much more than spatial coordinates over which you happen to have dominion. Whatever its effects on markets, Georgism fails to appropriately account for its effects on people.

Great points I’m missing a key part of the Georgist framing. George does explicit define land, labor, capital, and wealth to explain his system. I’m definitely missing some key steps in outlining the argument and assuming people here already know it.

Thanks for the heads up I’ll see if I can make a post summarizing the arguments that convinced me.