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Culture War Roundup for the week of October 31, 2022

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Might arguing with opposing alter egos of yourself make for rhetorically compelling reading for issues relating to the culture war or otherwise?

Nate Silver, of the political analysis publication 538, recently posted two articles ahead of the US midterms:

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-case-for-a-republican-sweep-on-election-night/

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-case-for-a-democratic-surprise-on-election-night/

The articles were formatted as transcripts of imaginary conversations between the author and "Nate Redd", his Republican alter ego, and then the author and "Nate Bleu", the Democratic version. Both alter egos suffer from prejudiced priors in favor of their political leanings, whereas the author, a Silver (which coincidentally might approximate gray?!) tribe spokesman, is presumed rational.

I'm sure partisans can pick apart plenty of issues big and small from their preferred versions, and I personally thought the Democratic version was substantially better written, and you can decipher what that might reveal about Silver's social circles and private beliefs (or mine, especially if you disagree with my take). Still, on the whole, I found the rhetorical exercise to be a productive deconstruction and rendition of how the average politically engaged reader thinks. The conversational format makes it easier to digest for the masses. It also has the bonus of being funnier, in particular in the Dem version where Silver took plenty of shots in poking fun of Mr. Bleu.

Back to my original question. Should more nonpartisan or rational bloggers/essayists/substack writers attempt something akin to this format every so often as they try to advance sophisticated takes on controversial subjects?

For Nate Redd, Silver is "Have you talked to any of your female friends about abortion?"

Insert eyeroll from me. Because of course every single woman is pro-abortion, of course a Republican-voting guy is not going to know any women who might be pro-life, of course no woman picked at random in the USA is going to be "I think the Supreme Court decision was great".

It is clear which side Silver is naturally on, but I suppose credit for at least trying, even feebly, to imagine what the bad horrible people might think.

Because of course every single woman is pro-abortion, of course a Republican-voting guy is not going to know any women who might be pro-life, of course no woman picked at random in the USA is going to be "I think the Supreme Court decision was great".

Are you reading the same article as me?

Redd: And by the way, I do talk to my female friends about abortion. Abortion is a problem for Republicans. That’s why I’m not sure if we’re going to win small or win big. But pretty much everything else lines up on our side.

As a red triber working in a blue city, it doesn't feel very descriptive of my situation, all of my female friends save one are pro life to the point of donating time and/or money to life focused crisis pregnancy centers. Many of the women I work with are I assume pro choice, but I avoid politics at work as much as possible. So I basically never speak to a woman who isn't pro life, generally more stridently than me.

That does nothing to dispute the claim that supporting pro life policies are costing republican votes. Ditto for basically everyone in the parent comment tree. I don't understand how so many motteposters are conflating "There's lots of pro-life people" (true) with "Being pro-life will make it easier to win elections" (do you believe this?)

"Being pro-life will make it easier to win elections"

Not what I said. I said Silver is acting as if Redd is unaware that women are pro-abortion, which is going to cost his side votes. I'm pointing out that you can't say 100% of women are pro-abortion, and the pro-life women are likelier to be on Redd's side of the fence, not Bleu's side.

I wasn't trying to dispute that claim, I was adding to FarNearEverywhere's point that Nate Redd fails the ideological turing test pretty hard.

None of my friends male or female have ever expressed anything like the thought you quoted from Redd. For most of us, it's horrifying enough that they've only expressed opinions along the line of preferring to die on that hill and lose election after reflection than compromise to expand the electoral tent.

Then you've missed the point of the article entirely? It's an election prediction site. Trying to put forward a case for a Republican electoral victory. It would be very odd and partisan to portray Redd as an anti-strategist that doesn't care about the outcome and "prefers to die on that hill and lose election".