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naraburns  nihil supernum  1yr ago (text post)   Edited 1yr ago   18912 thread views

USA Election Day 2022 Megathread

Tuesday November 8, 2022 is Election Day in the United States of America. In addition to Congressional "midterms" at the federal level, many state governors and other more local offices are up for grabs. Given how things shook out over Election Day 2020, things could get a little crazy.

...or, perhaps, not! But here's the Megathread for if they do. Talk about your local concerns, your national predictions, your suspicions re: election fraud and interference, how you plan to vote, anything election related is welcome here. Culture War thread rules apply, with the addition of Small-Scale Questions and election-related "Bare Links" allowed in this thread only (unfortunately, there will not be a subthread repository due to current technical limitations).

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And then instead of proving it by embarrassing yourself with an example of when you made a similar mistake in front of peers, you gave an example of a time you made a mistake about a bit of esoterica, of the biochemistry of a cow, affecting nothing and no one, as a result of reading too much about lifting.

This was the unintended take-away from my tiny story but I acknowledge your reading of it was reasonable. I've made other mistakes bigger than the example I used, but that was meant to be an illustration. Working backwards in time, one mistake I made was how I had previously heavily insinuated that Colin Wright was intentionally refusing to have his PayPal account restored as a way to grift more donations. I reached this belief based on how often he was shilling for donations and how he ignored my emails. After speaking to him further, I realized he had perfectly innocent reasons for having ignored me. I publicly stated that my suspicion was off-base.

Prior to that, I admitted error here: "I was wrong when I said @anti_dan 's claim about J6 defendants "held without bail for wandering in" was fictitious. At least three different people reasonably fit this qualification: Timothy Louis Hale-Cusanelli, Karl Dresch, Michael Curzio, and possibly others."

Both examples are from the last couple of weeks, so I'm sure there are others if you keep going back.

But what really upsets me is that you didn't wait at all.

I'm open to arguments that this was bad etiquette but I have not been swayed. For one, DradisPing's assertion was one made confidently, as a top-level post, and was central to their overall point about Maricopa County. Yet the only evidence they could cite was their "recollection". I think they had enough of an opportunity to correct the record, and in my post above I did not accuse them of refusing to admit wrong. Secondly, this is a very common pattern with election fraud claims, where they're uncritically presented and left unchallenged. I would want to see more hesitation from people before posting something that would take seconds to double check on a search engine.

I think they had enough of an opportunity to correct the record, and in my post above I did not accuse them of refusing to admit wrong.

This sentence doesn't make sense to me. Surely it's one or the other? If they aren't refusing to admit wrong why don't they get more of an opportunity to correct the record?

That's cool of you to list some of your own mistakes - very cool, and on a regular board I would consider the matter closed. But you are quite smart, so it would be a lot more impressive if you could please edit them into your op?

Because I thought more abstractly about it, and if I was trolling and I wanted to rub my superiority into someone's face - and I thought I had been caught in the act, I would have to dismantle part of my post to defuse the accusation of trolling. And I thought about what I would be willing to do, and I'd be happy to list personal flaws after the fact - as long as my op remained a shining monument to my superiority. I know this is how smart people think because the mods used to accuse me of doing it all the time before they realised I wasn't that smart.

If they aren't refusing to admit wrong why don't they get more of an opportunity to correct the record?

Sorry, that was confusing verbiage from me. I started by asking them to list their evidence. After they cited their recollection as the evidence, I concluded they were wrong. Only at that point would they need to go back and "correct the record" regarding their initial assertion. So far that hasn't happened yet so now I think I can finally say they're refusing to admit wrong.

so it would be a lot more impressive if you could please edit them into your op?

I already did! 6 hours before you asked :)

That is outrageously awesome man, cheers. I knew there was a reason I always felt comfortable talking to you and I am glad I wasn't mistaken. I still disagree about your timing but since I don't think you are being malicious I can agree to disagree :)

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