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Culture War Roundup for the week of November 14, 2022

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EA reverses normal concentric loyalties and therefore it's bad. Normally it goes family -> friends -> acquaintances -> locals -> nationals -> etc...EA, like progressives, say this is bad and that actually a random African is worth as much as your neighbour.

I don't think progressives do this. They simply put certain tribal loyalties higher than those a conservative might. Unlike EA, progressives value the life of a single American black criminal far more than they value of thousands of black Ugandan children.

Progressives value any group who they can offer their enemies' stuff to in exchange for loyalty, but I digress. Haidt and co. did seven studies that effectively show the concentric loyalties are literally reversed.

I don't interpret this literally, because they don't behave like they prefer black criminals over their parents. However, one of their tribal signals is that they say they do. I do believe they hate their parents. That's a common thread, along with no kids.

I believe that progressives will say they are universalists if you explicitly ask them and their answer has no consequence beyond emotional.

However I believe that in terms of either money donations or choice of causes to give attention to, progressives are not. Many EAs are, however.

They aren't universalists though, they like white people less. White liberals are the only group that rates their own race lower than others.

If they say they are universalists, ask them if that means one should treat white and black people equally.

The usual claim is that white people already have it plenty good, so deprioritizing them is just moving towards a more level playing field.

Yeah, but they would still not say yes if you stipulated, "what if white people were equal to blacks in wealth per capita and/or a minority"? They sure don't seem to have much love for white South Africans.

They would fight the hypothetical.

I'm not disagreeing with you, but I think the fact that the self-described universalists would never ever say whites and blacks are equal, no matter the hypothetical, should give something away.

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