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India is collapsing
The attack in Kashmir last week led to a lot of outrage and public statements about it from Pakistan. I am posting about the direction the so called "Nazi Hindu right" party took. They announced a caste census.
India has massive hbd spikes, when you go from the middle castes to the upper castes. I do not consider China-style entrance tests to be the best metric, they make for even worse policies. India in a fit of leftism, upon its modern conception post independence in 1947 mandated affirmative action of less than 30 percent, which got stretched to 50 with the Mandal commission in the 90s. Affirmative action and bioleninism are two genies that you cannot put back in a bottle.
Currnetly you have cases where people who score a literal zero in exams can teach math, you can get your neighbor jailed without proof by alleging he used a castiest slur wherein the government will give you 8 hundred thousand indian rupees or about 10k USD within a week of filing that case, under the SC ST act, a worthy rabbithole to check out for the more curious ones. You even get money for marrying people of other groups, thousands of USD actually in some states.
The caste census is a death blow. The nation is not industrialised, and real estate, basic amenities like running water, avoiding land grabbing, and education are out of bounds for most. Land grabbing and owning a house is nearly impossible, even with high incomes, without a back-breaking mortgage. This leads to people wanting to get employed by the government and that is done via exams. In each exam, you have to present a caste certificate if you are "backwards" and by Central Law, anything government-related has to have at least nearly 50 percent if not more sanctioned for people of backwards bent. In case a few of them score higher, they are allotted spots in the "Open" list as opposed to the "backwards" one. So even the 50 percent that the "upper castes" get is not truly for them. Most if not all people who get decent posts indulge in illegal things. Kickbacks are the only way to afford a house.
Modi and the BJP are using the caste census as a way to distract people from their inaction with the Kashmir issue. The census will show that the evil upper castes make up close to 10 percent of the nation, therefore, even 50 percent is too much. Places like Bihar are already pushing it, and frankly, this is India's fate. The country's economic slowdown is not going to stop the chery on top is that the Indian Armed Forces is nearly 95 percent upper caste. The army is also the only place where you do not have any affirmative action as even the bioleniniss know that would be stupid because the army actually has to win wars. Bridges collapse here regularly from shit engineering but people learn to live with that, wars are not a place you want to fuck with. The people who serve right now, their own kids, will not get to have good career outcomes.
Sure, you have state-wide bans or attempts at them on everything, crypto, proton mail, signal but what will fix that is ensuring more people leave. I have zero issues with any castes, the post illustrates a deeper point, which has to do with the universal nature of culture war. Anti caste scholars saw the backwards people as blacks and their own people as whites. And now, you end up in a state where posting any of this risks jail time. When Spandrell wrote bio leninism, he used the examples of minorities in Europe, but that very concept describes India way better.
The Indo Aryans were not pot-bellied soydevs, they were capable people, the majority was always the underclass, but it was closer to 90 than today's 99. something percent. Each year, you see people get visibly dumber. Plenty of Canadians are right to blame their boomers for selling them out by allowing an influx of the subcontinent's underclass. Today, I can relate to that sentiment. The elders here simply gave up without a fight, and now you are left with less social upward mobility. The entry-level IT sector and customer support people will get replaced fiarly soon, what then happens to the hordes of not-so-smart engineers and the economic fallout? Another proposal is to mandate state recommendations for social justice in private firms. This has not been enacted yet, but I will not be surprised even if it is.
Nothing is ever enough, they have land ceilings here to thwart to the evil upper caste from owning all the land and even had large scale land redistributions (hello south Africa) but nothing is ever enough. The upper caste male exists to pay taxes and fight wars. He does not get to enjoy any benefits and his leaders like the Canadians want him dead. Instead of making an example out of kashmiri "youth", the government showed a middle finger to its capable people on the frontlines. You can't own guns in the nanny state, now you won't get to be upper middle class either. The nation is doomed and pajeet elites deserve bad things, the kind that would be considered fed posting. I'm critical of most migration advocates as filling your nation with third world underclass and soydevs is a good way to end up with India like issues. Some is beneficial but letting large amounts of genetic rejects from Indian or Pakistani Punjab is suicidal.
They'll mandate the affirmative action policies in all things private too, schools, jobs, unis. It's over. It's actually over. Here is the leader of the opposition posting about it.
To be fair, (decimal) zero was an important mathematical concept invented in IndiaTo be fair, from what I could parse from the comments on that reddit link, it seems possible that they are using some scoring system where the mean is zero, e.g. you can score negative, so minimum score of zero would imply "at least average".
Given only this information, I don't think we can conclude how much India is putting their hand on the scales here.
It could be that this entrance exam is taken by people with a wide variety of degrees which do not enable them to complete a math PhD, that the standard deviation of the scores is 20, and the interview process is basically just approving them.
It could also be that the people sitting the Entrance exam all hold a Master's degree in math, that the standard deviation is 200 and that the interview process is weeding out a lot of people.
I am slightly against attributing too much of the difference between castes to HBD based on priors. My baseline for the HBD hypothesis are the Ashkenazi. The idea is that if you were a Jew in medieval Eastern Europe, intelligence lead to reproductive success -- if you were smart enough to become a Rabbi, you would probably increase the frequency of your genes in the population. By contrast, a very smart Christian probably became a priest, a profession associated (at least in the RCC) with below-average long term reproductive success.
By contrast, I do not believe that European aristocracy was likewise selected for intelligence. A cunning baron who schemed his way into becoming a count probably did less for the frequency of his genes than one who just fucked his servants, though I admit that this changes a bit if one only considers the gene pool of nobility.
Like the Ashkenazi and European Nobility (to some degree), and unlike most of the rest of society in medieval Europe, the caste system of India was strongly endogamous. This is a very double-edged sword, on the one hand, it prevents the selection effects from diluting, but on the other hand, it removes the possibility of getting advantageous genes from selected outsiders.
For HBD in the caste system, there would have to be different selection mechanisms in place in different castes. For the priesthood caste, it seems vaguely plausible that it at least selected against crass stupidity. For the warrior caste, my prior would be that the selection pressure was similar to European nobility, more brawns than brains. For traders, such an effect seems most plausible -- cunning might make the difference between just making ends meet and leaving a fortune to your descendants which will increase their reproductive success. For farmers, I don't exactly see anything which will select for them being stupid. If anything, a very smart European farmer might try his luck in a city (and thus cease to be a farmer, depriving that subpopulation of his genes) while a very smart Indian farmer was stuck being a farmer due to the caste system.
Nope, they're using negative scoring where wrong answers lose you marks (to discourage guessing on multiple choice questions). You get a score of 0 if you leave the exam paper blank, so yes, people from SC and ST just had to leave their exam paper blank and they'd be admitted to a PhD in mathematics...
It's totally absurd but funnily enough if you're going to have Affirmative Action I consider this a much better system than the US "holistic assessment"; at least with this method I know that to get in all I need to do is score 94+ marks and then I'm in (barring random yearly variations) rather than worry about not getting in because my parents made me go down the "he started his own charity" route three years ago which is now out of fashion with admission committees and their caprices.
Its not just sc and st, the OBC strata is the same. Bihar a state here is being run to the fucking ground because the OBCs make up bulk of India and actively hate the Upper Castes (UCs). So an Harvard-like holistic admission is out of question due to scarcity and poverty alongside the asian hunger to sacrifice everything for nerd prestige.
AIIMS is the biggest chain of unis for medicine and they are like the IITs or the NITs or IIMs or even the NLUS run by the central government. Lo and behold, you can be first in the entire nation and still not get admitted as if they only have three slots, they have to, by law, at least give two plus to people of different minority status. Once you add the female side, effectively 75 percent of all slots for all unis are mandated to only admit certain minorities, so many years, they simply do not let you in legally.
India has the highest rates of amputations due to medical negligence, high rates of failure for public infra and everything bad that you expect from Africa, despite having smart people, not a lot but enough to prevent all this.
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