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Culture War Roundup for the week of November 28, 2022

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Rhodesia is an interesting case in that it is a 60 year old mirror of modern day progressivism. White rule is unacceptable, for equality's sake we will support Mr. Mugabe. We all know how it turned out, but that hasn't stopped the same thing from happening 30 years later in South Africa.

My question is, who at the time was the major force against Rhodesia? Was it the UK and/or Harold Wilson, was it the US and/or Lyndon Johnson? Was it instead a political party? Were these governments happy with the end result, or did they ever say that they made a mistake with Rhodesia? I would guess not, given that they continue to do the same things. Anyone have any extra insight on the who and the why for the putting down the most effective African regimes, which just happened to be white?

I don't think there's any reliable way other than repression for a minority racial group to rule over a majority in the long run.

We can argue over the manner in which white rule in various countries was wound down/overturned/revolted against, and whether the short and medium term consequences were worth it, but on a long time scale, there's just no good way for Europe to rule Africa without repression, and no good reason why they should try.

Self determination means self determination even if the economic and social metrics important to westerners fall rather than rise.

Is there any reliable way other than repression for any minority to rule over a majority in the long run?

Well, yes. I think most if not all countries are ruled by a small minority of upper-crust aristocrats/bureaucrats/generals/rich dudes. Many are repressive to some degree, but not all.

Well then I'm confused by either what "repression" means or "long term" means. Which countries? Because there have been racial minorities in various parts of north africa and asia which have lasted many decades (some even centuries). I'm struggling to figure out a way to differentiate between these examples and yours. To me, your "racial" condition either isn't necessary or we're really splitting hairs about our perception of what "repression" means.

State your thesis and stop playing dumb.

prodding your "thesis" isn't playing dumb (but I already did state mine anyway)

To me, your "racial" condition either isn't necessary or we're really splitting hairs about our perception of what "repression" means.

you conditioned the statement on "racial," I don't think it's necessary and already gave examples where racial minorities ruled "without repression" for the "long term"

long term every single society trends towards repression to stave off collapse/regime change because power is necessarily held by a minority