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Friday Fun Thread for June 6, 2025

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Last night, I was telling the missus about Countess Constance Markievicz, an Irish revolutionary who was the first woman elected to the House of Commons, participated in the 1916 Easter Rising against British rule, and was appointed as Minister for Labour in Ireland's first Dáil.

As a member of the Citizen Army, Markievicz took part in the 1916 Easter Rising... Markievicz fought in St Stephen's Green, where on the first morning —according to the only two pages surviving of the diary of an alleged witness — she shot a member of the Dublin Metropolitan Police, Constable Lahiff, who subsequently died of his injuries... Markievicz supervised the setting-up of barricades on Easter Monday and was in the middle of the fighting all around Stephen's Green, wounding a British army sniper...

The Stephen's Green garrison held out for six days, ending the engagement when the British brought them Pearse's surrender order. They were taken to Dublin Castle and then to Kilmainham Gaol through what Matt Connolly described as "several groups of hostile people". There, she was the only one of 70 women prisoners who was put into solitary confinement. At her court-martial on 4 May 1916, Markievicz pleaded not guilty to "taking part in an armed rebellion...for the purpose of assisting the enemy," but pleaded guilty to having attempted "to cause disaffection among the civil population of His Majesty". Markievicz told the court, "I went out to fight for Ireland's freedom and it does not matter what happens to me. I did what I thought was right and I stand by it."

She was sentenced to death, but the court recommended mercy "solely and only on account of her sex". The sentence was commuted to life in prison. When told of this, she said to her captors, "I do wish your lot had the decency to shoot me".

I miss the era when feminists were tough as nails. The only things "triggering" this woman were the guns being fired at her. Every time I read about her, a frisson of awe runs down my spine. We used to be a proper country.

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