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Culture War Roundup for the week of June 9, 2025

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it is true. What's worse is that the actual api costs are probably 10-100 times more. They're all willing to spend more to make more.

edit - this tweet is a better source

This is talking about the cost to run on a test where they gave it a ludicrous token budget to perform sota evals, not the thing you run by default as a consumer.

Yeah no I stand corrected, I'm certain it's way more than 20 but 1000 is unwarranted speculation on my part. My root comment still stands, I'll post an edit making the necessary correction.

You misunderstand significantly what they spent $1,000 on. It's per task, not per query. I remember the results this article is summing up. If you look at the originak source, you'd see that it's 1k dollars per task... using a super chain of thought reasoning workflow, spinning up a ton of separate agents, running and restarting up to budget, and taking the best result. Very, very far from a thousand dollars per query. Each task was probably thousands of queries.

When they weren't trying to brute force the benchmark by trying the same model thousanda of times, it was around 17-20 dollars per task. Again, the arc agi tasks are not single queries. https://arcprize.org/blog/oai-o3-pub-breakthrough

I sand corrected then, probably not a thousand dollars then, I do think it has to be more than 20 given that it costs more tokens and you do not have an api available for it, which makes calcualtions quite hard. The true costs are signficantly higher than what they charge even for their apis.

Which part of this article claims $1000 per query for deep research?

good find, this tweet plots it on the leaderboard and the other srouces are rough calculations from others based on thier own costs. This is after taking in the real price for the model as openai charges people a few times less than it should simply so that others can afford their models.

I can link other tweets, I saw this tech crunch article linked, I think others used this to extraolate costs as it does not clairfy the explicit cost. Apologies, will edit my comment.

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