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Culture War Roundup for the week of June 16, 2025

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Everyone understands Jesus is God. The people who think the immaculate conception is the annunciation(this group includes lots of Protestants confused why they don’t celebrate it in addition to normie Catholics who are very confused as to why it is in December) understand Jesus is God. The median normie churchgoer would be more likely to deny the different natures- God the father as the Old Testament who became Jesus God the son who then became God the Holy Spirit after the ascension.

Arianism specifically thinks that Jesus was some sort of super-Angel; Jehovah’s Witnesses are the only notable group of arians around today(they believe that Jesus and the archangel Michael are the same thing).

You’d get all sorts of interesting answers from normie churchgoers on the question of the relationship between Jesus and the father. Few of them would describe Him, explicitly, as a created being- which is the definition of Arianism. Lots of tritheism, modalism, nestorianism, hindu-style avatars, etc.

they believe that Jesus and the archangel Michael are the same thing

This is actually common in old school Protestantism; if I recall correctly, both Luther and Calvin flirted with the idea. The concept is that “Who is like God” indicates that Michael is like God, I.e. consubstantial with God, I.e. Jesus. It’s also true that the “angel of the Lord” in the OT is often identified with Christ in most Christian traditions, so the idea of “Jesus is an angel and God” isn’t that far fetched.