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Culture War Roundup for the week of December 5, 2022

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because the chances for a random people from this sub being able to get the evidence you're asking for are basically nil

The obvious solution to not having evidence to support a position is to not hold the position. It's ok to say "I don't know" and that seems to upset a lot of people who really want to adopt their preferred conclusion, lack of evidence be damned. Along that line, I don't know what me being purportedly "neutral" has to do with anything, I've never spoken to Weiss or Singal about any of this and don't intend to. The reasons for why I'm skeptical of Musk's claim stand on their own, and you're still welcome to poke holes in what I said even if you haven't tried to already.

and that seems to upset a lot of people who really want to adopt their preferred conclusion

I already stepped away from playing the game your way, under the assumption that there was a geniuine misunderstanding, but you're already (within 1 comment!) starting to show you're not interested in clarifying anything. I'm not sure how you misread what I wrote to this degree. None of the posts in this chain insist or even imply that you must come same conclusion as me. Like I explained to drmanhattan, I'm (and I assume other people reacting the same way I am) upset at the insistence that there's nothing to see here.

I don't hold the position that there's nothing to see here, I don't know! Musk could clarify so much here but it's suspicious how light on the details he is, so my position remains "I don't know" for the many reasons I outlined. You still don't even bother trying to explain why my skepticism is misplaced beyond heuristics like "we should assume Musk had a good reason for firing someone". It's weird.

I don't hold the position that there's nothing to see here, I don't know!

I don't see how you can reasonably expect anyone to read your posts this way.

Musk could clarify so much here but it's suspicious how light on the details he is

Sure. The same way you are in a better position than anyone else on this forum to clarify the situation.

You still don't even bother trying to explain why my skepticism is misplaced beyond heuristics like "we should assume Musk had a good reason for firing someone". It's weird.

I did explain it. At this point all I can say is that if you want a response closer to what drmanhattan got, consider writing more like him, and less like yourself.

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